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TN al Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 07:27 PM
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60. I am ashamed of DU for bringing this up...
... Anyone pointing out that McCain violated the Code of Conduct is just showing that they were never in the military. Holding out for 72 hours is pretty damn good. By then any operational information that McCain might have had was changed anyway. There are a lot of reasons to not vote for McCain. This is not one of them! We're not Republicans and we are not Free Republic! Leave this one alone.
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  -Take The Gloves Off: In 1973, McCain admitted he collaborated with the Vietnamese zulchzulu  Jul-30-08 10:42 AM   #0 
  - October Surprise. Get one of those Vietnamese Prison guards to talk about blabbermouth Johnny.  YOY   Jul-30-08 10:48 AM   #1 
  - Or run the "classified" promo films he made for them while captive.  elehhhhna   Jul-30-08 10:49 AM   #3 
  - I think Obama needs to take the gloves off but not with this. This is too low & would degrade Obama.  jezebel   Jul-30-08 10:49 AM   #2 
  - Obama can play McCain's card and "condemn" the ads  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 11:04 AM   #12 
  - Apparently a concept lost on many. And yes it could back fire... easily.  FogerRox   Jul-30-08 03:02 PM   #48 
  - This is most swiftboating thing I've seen since swiftboating  alwysdrunk   Jul-30-08 10:50 AM   #4 
  - Swiftboating was lies - McCain admits here that he collaborated BEFORE torture.  leveymg   Jul-30-08 10:54 AM   #8 
  - Kerry got swiftboated by LIES. McCain ADMITTED he collaborated with the enemy  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 10:58 AM   #9 
  - "Swiftboating" is distorting one's military service, as opposed to telling the truth about McCain.  Major Hogwash   Jul-30-08 11:31 AM   #28 
  - How the fuck is it swiftboating if it's true?  Paint It Black   Jul-30-08 10:28 PM   #66 
  - They didn't even have to torture him to make him talk.  leveymg   Jul-30-08 10:50 AM   #5 
  - I wonder how many of our military throughout history paid the price  LiberalFighter   Jul-30-08 11:30 AM   #27 
     - I don't blame him on a human level for saving his own life. But, he's no hero.  leveymg   Jul-30-08 11:52 AM   #35 
        - Exactly!!! He is not a hero.  LiberalFighter   Jul-30-08 02:28 PM   #41 
  - From the article  hughee99   Jul-30-08 10:51 AM   #6 
  - There are other articles from US government documents where McCain released US military strategy  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 11:14 AM   #17 
  - The media is too brainwashed (& cowed & partisan - take your pick) to touch this with a 10ft pole...  katandmoon   Jul-30-08 10:51 AM   #7 
  - Sexual comfort?  PCIntern   Jul-30-08 11:02 AM   #10 
  - Yep - of a guy so badly broken and malnourished that all he wants is to take  cliffordu   Jul-30-08 11:15 AM   #19 
  - this would be a gift to McCain  Enrique   Jul-30-08 11:02 AM   #11 
  - Going to the heart of McCain's phony "hero" act would make his campaign flail and sink  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 11:08 AM   #15 
  - Bush went AWOL, and the AWOL attacks didn't hurt him  Enrique   Jul-30-08 11:19 AM   #23 
     - You can't change a Repuke's mind - would hope that this would work with undecideds..... n/t  1Hippiechick   Jul-30-08 11:34 AM   #29 
        - sure you can  Enrique   Jul-30-08 11:39 AM   #31 
           - Good for you! The Repukes I encounter have blinders on and refuse to listen to reason. :( n/t  1Hippiechick   Jul-30-08 12:02 PM   #38 
  - I totally agree with you  RamboLiberal   Jul-30-08 02:40 PM   #46 
  - I would be very hesitant to try to use anything about McCain's POW status  Arkansas Granny   Jul-30-08 11:04 AM   #13 
  - I'm sure members of the military and their families know about the Military Code of Conduct  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 11:11 AM   #16 
     - I still think that if we try to use McCain's military service against him, in any manner at all,  Arkansas Granny   Jul-30-08 11:57 AM   #36 
  - Sigh. Apparently you want to get McCain elected.  cliffordu   Jul-30-08 11:08 AM   #14 
  - I'd like to see a poll from Americans who know about McCain's POW history  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 11:18 AM   #22 
  - Please continue to dismiss how broken his body was and what kind of pain he  cliffordu   Jul-30-08 11:24 AM   #25 
  - Zulch is often willing to sink as low as republicans in his attacks  Lirwin2   Jul-30-08 06:14 PM   #56 
     - Sit on the sidelines and whine... let the professionals do the business needed to be done  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 10:23 PM   #64 
  - I couldn't care less about his POW thing, myself. It no longer merits my respect.  wienerdoggie   Jul-30-08 11:14 AM   #18 
  - Let's leave this stuff to the 527 org Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain  DinahMoeHum   Jul-30-08 11:16 AM   #20 
  - I agree to an extent  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 11:21 AM   #24 
  - Bet a lot of Americans would forgive him that  RamboLiberal   Jul-30-08 11:16 AM   #21 
  - Is there a video or audio of him making the above statements? That would be very effective.  LiberalFighter   Jul-30-08 11:28 AM   #26 
  - I remember seeing video of McCain referring to admitting he gave away info...  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 11:48 AM   #33 
     - Perfect!! How long would McCain's campaign with them being broadcast over and over?  LiberalFighter   Jul-30-08 02:31 PM   #43 
  - K&R - it ain't swiftboating if it's true.  Happyhippychick   Jul-30-08 11:35 AM   #30 
  - Yep. All gloves should be off now. The blatant lie-filled attack ads  Truth Hurts A Lot   Jul-30-08 11:40 AM   #32 
  - That tactic might have some clout if Obama had served in the military.  Straight Shooter   Jul-30-08 11:52 AM   #34 
  - Exactly. McCain's military service is a sacred cow. We shouldn't go there. n/t  elkston   Jul-30-08 12:00 PM   #37 
  - Holy shit! Hanoi Jane must be blushing with embarrassment right now.  HypnoToad   Jul-30-08 12:03 PM   #39 
  - Bringing the gun to the knife fight....finally  hawkowl88   Jul-30-08 01:00 PM   #40 
  - More like bringing the gun and shooting Obama's campaign  RamboLiberal   Jul-30-08 02:38 PM   #45 
     - Won't work against Kerry!  hawkowl88   Jul-30-08 04:09 PM   #50 
  - If Kerry's Vietnam record was fair game, so is this.  calimary   Jul-30-08 02:31 PM   #42 
  - DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB Strategy  RamboLiberal   Jul-30-08 02:37 PM   #44 
  - Exactly, thanks.  FogerRox   Jul-30-08 06:24 PM   #59 
  - Good advice but wrong analogy  farmbo   Jul-30-08 08:46 PM   #61 
  - It should only come from a surrogate, willing to take the heat ala General Clark.  faithfulcitizen   Jul-30-08 02:46 PM   #47 
  - He admitted to being a baby killer... so what ? You would have too...  FogerRox   Jul-30-08 03:10 PM   #49 
  - Ill do it..  symbolman   Jul-30-08 05:28 PM   #51 
  - It wouldn't be Rovian since it's the truth!  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 05:46 PM   #52 
  - McLame is a fraud. He is a corrupt politician. He is an Asshole.  Disturbed   Jul-30-08 05:54 PM   #53 
  - McCain adjusts POW anecdote for Steel City crowd  Disturbed   Jul-30-08 05:56 PM   #54 
  - Video of McCain admitting he spilled his guts to save his ass  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 10:21 PM   #63 
     - Well, the truth is that Anyone would crack under those circumstances..  symbolman   Jul-30-08 11:12 PM   #69 
  - That one's kind of low  Geek_Girl   Jul-30-08 06:11 PM   #55 
  - I mentioned it would be a 527-driven thrust  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 10:25 PM   #65 
  - I would leave this alone if I were you.  totodeinhere   Jul-30-08 06:20 PM   #57 
  - Exact-a-mundo  FogerRox   Jul-30-08 06:21 PM   #58 
  - As mentioned, I'm talking about independent 527s doing the deal  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 10:34 PM   #68 
  - I am ashamed of DU for bringing this up...  TN al   Jul-30-08 07:27 PM   #60 
  - There were plenty of POWs who had the balls to maintain the Military Code of Conduct  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 10:20 PM   #62 
  - There were plenty of POWs who had the balls to maintain the Military Code of Conduct  TN al   Jul-31-08 11:04 AM   #72 
  - I joined in '71  symbolman   Jul-30-08 11:15 PM   #70 
     - And turn McCain into a sympathetic figure?  TN al   Jul-31-08 11:10 AM   #73 
  - Another question: why are McCain's military records sealed with no access?  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 10:29 PM   #67 
  - this will only hurt Obama  JI7   Jul-31-08 12:07 AM   #71 

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