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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 11:04 AM
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12. Obama can play McCain's card and "condemn" the ads
McCain wants to have it both ways. Well, we can play that game too.

If people who have a lazy inkling that McCain is a "war hero" catch wind of the admitting by McCain that he collaborated with the enemy, then we may see a serious shift in McCain's phony act.

McCain wants to openly attack Obama's patriotism, so it's time to throw the bastard some serious attacks back from a 527.

If McCain wants to admit he is a liar with his recent ads and clear the slate, then there would be no need to attack his Achilles Heel.
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  -Take The Gloves Off: In 1973, McCain admitted he collaborated with the Vietnamese zulchzulu  Jul-30-08 10:42 AM   #0 
  - October Surprise. Get one of those Vietnamese Prison guards to talk about blabbermouth Johnny.  YOY   Jul-30-08 10:48 AM   #1 
  - Or run the "classified" promo films he made for them while captive.  elehhhhna   Jul-30-08 10:49 AM   #3 
  - I think Obama needs to take the gloves off but not with this. This is too low & would degrade Obama.  jezebel   Jul-30-08 10:49 AM   #2 
  - Obama can play McCain's card and "condemn" the ads  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 11:04 AM   #12 
  - Apparently a concept lost on many. And yes it could back fire... easily.  FogerRox   Jul-30-08 03:02 PM   #48 
  - This is most swiftboating thing I've seen since swiftboating  alwysdrunk   Jul-30-08 10:50 AM   #4 
  - Swiftboating was lies - McCain admits here that he collaborated BEFORE torture.  leveymg   Jul-30-08 10:54 AM   #8 
  - Kerry got swiftboated by LIES. McCain ADMITTED he collaborated with the enemy  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 10:58 AM   #9 
  - "Swiftboating" is distorting one's military service, as opposed to telling the truth about McCain.  Major Hogwash   Jul-30-08 11:31 AM   #28 
  - How the fuck is it swiftboating if it's true?  Paint It Black   Jul-30-08 10:28 PM   #66 
  - They didn't even have to torture him to make him talk.  leveymg   Jul-30-08 10:50 AM   #5 
  - I wonder how many of our military throughout history paid the price  LiberalFighter   Jul-30-08 11:30 AM   #27 
     - I don't blame him on a human level for saving his own life. But, he's no hero.  leveymg   Jul-30-08 11:52 AM   #35 
        - Exactly!!! He is not a hero.  LiberalFighter   Jul-30-08 02:28 PM   #41 
  - From the article  hughee99   Jul-30-08 10:51 AM   #6 
  - There are other articles from US government documents where McCain released US military strategy  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 11:14 AM   #17 
  - The media is too brainwashed (& cowed & partisan - take your pick) to touch this with a 10ft pole...  katandmoon   Jul-30-08 10:51 AM   #7 
  - Sexual comfort?  PCIntern   Jul-30-08 11:02 AM   #10 
  - Yep - of a guy so badly broken and malnourished that all he wants is to take  cliffordu   Jul-30-08 11:15 AM   #19 
  - this would be a gift to McCain  Enrique   Jul-30-08 11:02 AM   #11 
  - Going to the heart of McCain's phony "hero" act would make his campaign flail and sink  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 11:08 AM   #15 
  - Bush went AWOL, and the AWOL attacks didn't hurt him  Enrique   Jul-30-08 11:19 AM   #23 
     - You can't change a Repuke's mind - would hope that this would work with undecideds..... n/t  1Hippiechick   Jul-30-08 11:34 AM   #29 
        - sure you can  Enrique   Jul-30-08 11:39 AM   #31 
           - Good for you! The Repukes I encounter have blinders on and refuse to listen to reason. :( n/t  1Hippiechick   Jul-30-08 12:02 PM   #38 
  - I totally agree with you  RamboLiberal   Jul-30-08 02:40 PM   #46 
  - I would be very hesitant to try to use anything about McCain's POW status  Arkansas Granny   Jul-30-08 11:04 AM   #13 
  - I'm sure members of the military and their families know about the Military Code of Conduct  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 11:11 AM   #16 
     - I still think that if we try to use McCain's military service against him, in any manner at all,  Arkansas Granny   Jul-30-08 11:57 AM   #36 
  - Sigh. Apparently you want to get McCain elected.  cliffordu   Jul-30-08 11:08 AM   #14 
  - I'd like to see a poll from Americans who know about McCain's POW history  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 11:18 AM   #22 
  - Please continue to dismiss how broken his body was and what kind of pain he  cliffordu   Jul-30-08 11:24 AM   #25 
  - Zulch is often willing to sink as low as republicans in his attacks  Lirwin2   Jul-30-08 06:14 PM   #56 
     - Sit on the sidelines and whine... let the professionals do the business needed to be done  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 10:23 PM   #64 
  - I couldn't care less about his POW thing, myself. It no longer merits my respect.  wienerdoggie   Jul-30-08 11:14 AM   #18 
  - Let's leave this stuff to the 527 org Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain  DinahMoeHum   Jul-30-08 11:16 AM   #20 
  - I agree to an extent  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 11:21 AM   #24 
  - Bet a lot of Americans would forgive him that  RamboLiberal   Jul-30-08 11:16 AM   #21 
  - Is there a video or audio of him making the above statements? That would be very effective.  LiberalFighter   Jul-30-08 11:28 AM   #26 
  - I remember seeing video of McCain referring to admitting he gave away info...  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 11:48 AM   #33 
     - Perfect!! How long would McCain's campaign with them being broadcast over and over?  LiberalFighter   Jul-30-08 02:31 PM   #43 
  - K&R - it ain't swiftboating if it's true.  Happyhippychick   Jul-30-08 11:35 AM   #30 
  - Yep. All gloves should be off now. The blatant lie-filled attack ads  Truth Hurts A Lot   Jul-30-08 11:40 AM   #32 
  - That tactic might have some clout if Obama had served in the military.  Straight Shooter   Jul-30-08 11:52 AM   #34 
  - Exactly. McCain's military service is a sacred cow. We shouldn't go there. n/t  elkston   Jul-30-08 12:00 PM   #37 
  - Holy shit! Hanoi Jane must be blushing with embarrassment right now.  HypnoToad   Jul-30-08 12:03 PM   #39 
  - Bringing the gun to the knife fight....finally  hawkowl88   Jul-30-08 01:00 PM   #40 
  - More like bringing the gun and shooting Obama's campaign  RamboLiberal   Jul-30-08 02:38 PM   #45 
     - Won't work against Kerry!  hawkowl88   Jul-30-08 04:09 PM   #50 
  - If Kerry's Vietnam record was fair game, so is this.  calimary   Jul-30-08 02:31 PM   #42 
  - DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB Strategy  RamboLiberal   Jul-30-08 02:37 PM   #44 
  - Exactly, thanks.  FogerRox   Jul-30-08 06:24 PM   #59 
  - Good advice but wrong analogy  farmbo   Jul-30-08 08:46 PM   #61 
  - It should only come from a surrogate, willing to take the heat ala General Clark.  faithfulcitizen   Jul-30-08 02:46 PM   #47 
  - He admitted to being a baby killer... so what ? You would have too...  FogerRox   Jul-30-08 03:10 PM   #49 
  - Ill do it..  symbolman   Jul-30-08 05:28 PM   #51 
  - It wouldn't be Rovian since it's the truth!  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 05:46 PM   #52 
  - McLame is a fraud. He is a corrupt politician. He is an Asshole.  Disturbed   Jul-30-08 05:54 PM   #53 
  - McCain adjusts POW anecdote for Steel City crowd  Disturbed   Jul-30-08 05:56 PM   #54 
  - Video of McCain admitting he spilled his guts to save his ass  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 10:21 PM   #63 
     - Well, the truth is that Anyone would crack under those circumstances..  symbolman   Jul-30-08 11:12 PM   #69 
  - That one's kind of low  Geek_Girl   Jul-30-08 06:11 PM   #55 
  - I mentioned it would be a 527-driven thrust  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 10:25 PM   #65 
  - I would leave this alone if I were you.  totodeinhere   Jul-30-08 06:20 PM   #57 
  - Exact-a-mundo  FogerRox   Jul-30-08 06:21 PM   #58 
  - As mentioned, I'm talking about independent 527s doing the deal  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 10:34 PM   #68 
  - I am ashamed of DU for bringing this up...  TN al   Jul-30-08 07:27 PM   #60 
  - There were plenty of POWs who had the balls to maintain the Military Code of Conduct  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 10:20 PM   #62 
  - There were plenty of POWs who had the balls to maintain the Military Code of Conduct  TN al   Jul-31-08 11:04 AM   #72 
  - I joined in '71  symbolman   Jul-30-08 11:15 PM   #70 
     - And turn McCain into a sympathetic figure?  TN al   Jul-31-08 11:10 AM   #73 
  - Another question: why are McCain's military records sealed with no access?  zulchzulu   Jul-30-08 10:29 PM   #67 
  - this will only hurt Obama  JI7   Jul-31-08 12:07 AM   #71 
 

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