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Thu Jul-31-08 05:42 AM
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| 64. the swing states he can deliver include Pennsylvania, West Virginia, & Ohio |
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He'd also probably play as strongly in Virginia as any of the native sons getting touted. Biden would all but close the deal. He's a powerful performer on the stump and in debates. I think Obama's insane not to go with him.
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| -Biden for VP, even though he's DLC and Mr. MBNA, won't deliver any swing state |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jul-30-08 08:43 AM |
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He rides the Amtrak train into work. |
Old Crusoe |
Jul-30-08 08:46 AM |
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I am torn between Biden and Bayh--Biden is more likable, has more |
wienerdoggie |
Jul-30-08 08:47 AM |
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He's not been a target of republican ridicule because he is all |
NCevilDUer |
Jul-30-08 09:24 AM |
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Well, that works in our favor, then. |
wienerdoggie |
Jul-30-08 09:36 AM |
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I don't vote for republicans. nt |
NCevilDUer |
Jul-30-08 09:49 AM |
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Last I checked, Bayh wasn't one, so you're safe there. |
wienerdoggie |
Jul-30-08 09:50 AM |
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He's considered more liberal than Obama according to some ratings agencies. nt |
gateley |
Jul-30-08 01:29 PM |
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Bayh? former head of the fucking DLC? |
NCevilDUer |
Jul-30-08 02:44 PM |
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No - Biden. nt |
gateley |
Jul-30-08 02:51 PM |
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My mistake. Mini-rant withdrawn. nt |
NCevilDUer |
Jul-30-08 02:52 PM |
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Totally more than okay -- I understand! :-) nt |
gateley |
Jul-30-08 03:50 PM |
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O.K. all is forgiven. But Biden is not more liberal than Obama and neither is Bayh |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jul-30-08 04:29 PM |
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If someone with an upside down US flag as their avatar hates Bayh... |
trewsx11 |
Jul-30-08 04:25 PM |
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I must say that if Obama was relying purely on pragmatism, I would |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jul-30-08 04:31 PM |
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What? Where the hell are you getting this bullshit from? |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jul-30-08 04:28 PM |
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Really? Isn't that going too far? |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jul-30-08 04:27 PM |
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If he can't deliver a swing state, I say save him for SofS... |
polichick |
Jul-30-08 08:47 AM |
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I agree that he's better as Sec. of State but who else is suitable |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jul-30-08 08:57 AM |
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imo Obama will choose to win - and that's what counts right now... |
polichick |
Jul-30-08 11:48 AM |
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I'm so with you. |
gateley |
Jul-30-08 01:31 PM |
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It would be hard for me to support a ticket with Bayh |
BrentTaylor |
Jul-30-08 08:47 AM |
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Nah, they both suck big time! n/t |
8643 |
Jul-30-08 08:49 AM |
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Who would you use if the only options left were: |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jul-30-08 08:57 AM |
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I like Biden for the exact reasons you've stated |
wyldwolf |
Jul-30-08 08:50 AM |
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The plan to split up Iraq is arrogant and stupid. What right does the US have to break up ... |
invictus |
Jul-30-08 08:52 AM |
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I also disagreed with that plan. It was the one time I thought Biden had |
wienerdoggie |
Jul-30-08 09:11 AM |
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The only thing is, is that is exactly what the Iraqi's are doing. |
pirhana |
Jul-30-08 10:08 AM |
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That's what I thought, too! I didn't think it was a stupid plan... |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jul-30-08 12:59 PM |
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It is a stupid neo-con plan. |
invictus |
Jul-30-08 07:28 PM |
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neo-con bullshit. American did worse during the civil war. Ever heard of blue states and red states? |
invictus |
Jul-30-08 07:26 PM |
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You may have a valid point there. I wouldn't want a country occupying me whose |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jul-31-08 06:41 AM |
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He kills the change and judgment argument. |
Skwmom |
Jul-30-08 08:53 AM |
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Many variables to a veep pick. One is whether we tune in to the |
Old Crusoe |
Jul-30-08 09:01 AM |
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I like Sen. Biden for the same reason I like Gov. Kaine - because he is NOT Evan Bayh |
Douglas Carpenter |
Jul-30-08 09:10 AM |
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Joe Biden VOTED FOR THE IRAQ WAR! |
trewsx11 |
Jul-30-08 01:40 PM |
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Did you forget that everyone was lied to regarding the intelligence reports they were given? |
mrigirl |
Jul-30-08 09:03 PM |
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Biden is liberal? I thought I heard it all... |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jul-31-08 06:42 AM |
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I never, ever thought I'd say this, but I think Bayh is Obama's best choice. |
wienerdoggie |
Jul-30-08 09:12 AM |
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The Repukes are much fearful of Bayh! Puts Indiana in play. |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jul-30-08 09:18 AM |
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with Bayh, Sen. Obama will have to completely forsake his judgement slogan |
Douglas Carpenter |
Jul-30-08 09:33 AM |
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Obama can get around that. Pretty much everyone in the Dem party |
wienerdoggie |
Jul-30-08 09:38 AM |
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Biden's Governor, Donald Carceri, is a Republican. That is a negative. |
flpoljunkie |
Jul-30-08 09:29 AM |
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Last I heard, Carcieri was Governor of RI, |
bornskeptic |
Jul-30-08 10:29 AM |
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Oops! Thanks for the correction. Brain fart! |
flpoljunkie |
Jul-30-08 12:19 PM |
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Using "DLC" in the context of Biden is so fucking stupid, the rest of your post has no merit |
cryingshame |
Jul-30-08 09:41 AM |
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Please do tell, oh wise one. Why am I fucking stupid? |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jul-30-08 09:42 AM |
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Biden is not an actual card-carrying member of the DLC... |
wyldwolf |
Jul-30-08 10:01 AM |
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If The Repubs start attacking Biden... |
darius15 |
Jul-30-08 09:52 AM |
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None of it matters or needs to be discussed. GoBama! |
Marrah_G |
Jul-30-08 09:54 AM |
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Another thing about Biden that alot of people don't know, is his high marks on the environment. |
pirhana |
Jul-30-08 10:01 AM |
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Biden is not DLC |
Zodiak Ironfist |
Jul-30-08 11:52 AM |
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I stand corrected. He may not be a card-carrying member but he does identify |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jul-30-08 04:36 PM |
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Biden has grown on me |
Marie26 |
Jul-30-08 01:01 PM |
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I prefer Evan Bayh then...less arrogant version of Biden |
trewsx11 |
Jul-30-08 01:33 PM |
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You say he's less arrogant but have you met him??? |
Debi |
Jul-30-08 02:38 PM |
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Please, Obama, not two senators on one ticket. |
DFLforever |
Jul-30-08 02:34 PM |
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MBNA got hoovered up by Bank of America so that's "Mr. BOFA" now. :-) |
chimpsrsmarter |
Jul-30-08 02:54 PM |
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Want to give the McCain campaign tons of ammunition? |
depakid |
Jul-30-08 04:26 PM |
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Biden is a good example of what is wrong in the democratic party. |
Milo_Bloom |
Jul-30-08 04:32 PM |
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Exactly! n/t |
invictus |
Jul-30-08 07:31 PM |
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Dude, just about everybody voted for the damn war! Get over it! They were lied to. |
mrigirl |
Jul-30-08 09:12 PM |
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The information was out there for those interested enough to find it. |
Milo_Bloom |
Jul-30-08 11:50 PM |
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My top favorites for VP: Richardson, Hillary, Schweitzer. I change between them daily. |
AlinPA |
Jul-30-08 04:34 PM |
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I like Hillary but was very turned off with how nasty she ran her campaign. |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jul-31-08 06:57 AM |
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I really hope he gets the nod too |
cleveramerican |
Jul-30-08 04:37 PM |
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I don't think we know the real short list myself. |
barack the house |
Jul-31-08 04:33 AM |
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the swing states he can deliver include Pennsylvania, West Virginia, & Ohio |
Bucky |
Jul-31-08 05:42 AM |
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