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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 11:24 AM
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98. Further evidence shows that the "gay baiting" charge was a completely bogus
charge against Kaine when he ran against the homophobic Kilgore who ran extensive ads against Kaine's "pro-gay" stands. Kaine took out the most homophobic politician in Virginia.


From the Washington Blade


http://www.washblade.com/2005/11-11/news/localnews/va-e...


Gay Groups Cheer VA Elections



Lt. Gov. Tim Kaine, a Democrat, solidly defeated Republican Jerry Kilgore 52 to 46 percent. Both candidates oppose gay marriage and civil unions, but Kaine backs workplace protection for gays and opposed the Marriage Affirmation Act, one of the countrys most strident laws stripping gay couples of legal protections.

Jerry Kilgore ran a campaign that included gay bashing, immigrant bashing, and bashing Tim Kaine for his religious beliefs as a Catholic, said Josh Israel, president of the Virginia Partisans Gay & Lesbian Democratic Club. His defeat is a sign that the politics of division are not the way to go.

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During the campaign, the Kilgore campaign ran ads saying that Kaine supported gay adoption. Kaines position is that the current law which says the best interest of the child is the primary consideration, and allows single people and married couples to adopt strikes the right balance, of the Kaine campaign.

As state attorney general, Kilgore said the Fairfax School Board did not have the authority to include sexual orientation discrimination in its non-discrimination policy.

But Kilgores supporters said it was Kaines campaign that engaged in gay-baiting, running a radio ad called Weak that suggested Kilgore is too weak to lead Virginia and says, Jerry Kilgore is not being straight.

This ad came on the heels of an anti-Kilgore Web site www.jerrytheduck.com that encouraged visitors to listen to an audio clip and hear Jerry quack. Some believe that this is an attempt to draw attention to Kilgores voice, which was described as gay-sounding.

A highly publicized discussion of whether Kaine is making fun of Kilgores rural accent, is actually about whether Kaine is making fun of Kilgores effeminate voice, Kilgore backers claimed.

An election eve appearance by President Bush seems not to have energized voters for Kilgore and may have instead motivated Kaines supporters.

Israel said that for the last three years, Kilgore has been the single biggest obstacle to gay and lesbian equality in Virginia.

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  -A closer look seems to confirm Kaine will be the VP Nominee grantcart  Jul-27-08 10:54 PM   #0 
  - He's always been my top choice  BrentTaylor   Jul-27-08 10:56 PM   #1 
  - And, it would be fun to say 'OBAMA/KAINE!' 'YES, WE KAINE!'  flpoljunkie   Jul-28-08 08:43 AM   #81 
  - there'll be those who work to make Kaine unpalatable to the Democratic base  cryingshame   Jul-28-08 09:44 AM   #90 
  - Superb post.  Old Crusoe   Jul-27-08 10:58 PM   #2 
  - Found this on Wikipedia..  zidzi   Jul-27-08 11:09 PM   #10 
     - Not bad at all. Hi, zidzi.  Old Crusoe   Jul-27-08 11:11 PM   #12 
        - And, of course, if he makes the cut he'll  zidzi   Jul-27-08 11:15 PM   #17 
           - I like the common strands of their two lives. They sound like they  Old Crusoe   Jul-27-08 11:17 PM   #19 
              - Yes..and it's the first time I've really looked  zidzi   Jul-27-08 11:25 PM   #24 
  - Can't Argue With Your Analysis  bkinsd   Jul-27-08 10:58 PM   #3 
  - Yeah, with all grant has to write about him..I'm  zidzi   Jul-27-08 11:00 PM   #6 
  - Excellent post, grant!  zidzi   Jul-27-08 10:58 PM   #4 
  - "Marriage between a man and a woman is ...a keystone of our civil society" - Tim Kaine  Bluebear   Jul-27-08 11:00 PM   #5 
  - well I linked back to the sources and to their sources  grantcart   Jul-27-08 11:13 PM   #15 
  - from the same article - again dated 2005  grantcart   Jul-27-08 11:19 PM   #21 
  - "I have never said I supported gay civil unions, gay marriages" - Ecch.  Bluebear   Jul-28-08 12:52 AM   #46 
  - The disturbing thing (other than supporting a state constitutional ban on same sex marriage)  ruggerson   Jul-27-08 11:57 PM   #37 
  - The article which is more than 2 years old says that he is against gay adoptions  grantcart   Jul-28-08 12:30 AM   #38 
  - He's against gay *couples* adopting  ruggerson   Jul-28-08 12:46 AM   #42 
     - That makes no sense. Hetero couples split up all the time--unless  wienerdoggie   Jul-28-08 12:52 AM   #47 
     - Well he was in favor of the constitutional amendment in VA banning marriage  ruggerson   Jul-28-08 12:56 AM   #50 
        - That's odd, for a Democrat with a civil-rights background. Maybe it's  wienerdoggie   Jul-28-08 12:59 AM   #52 
        - If you read some of the other posts in the thread you will see that  grantcart   Jul-28-08 01:16 AM   #60 
           - Well, that's a point in his favor.  wienerdoggie   Jul-28-08 01:18 AM   #61 
           - And all though he is personally against abortion he also fought for planned parenthood.  grantcart   Jul-28-08 01:47 AM   #68 
           - Good for Virginia GLBT Democrats, but we have far more attractive candidates  Bluebear   Jul-28-08 01:20 AM   #62 
              - Can you name a single "more attractive candidate" that once they took  grantcart   Jul-28-08 01:46 AM   #67 
              - I'm not interested in pandering to "very conservative states" for my rights, thanks.  Bluebear   Jul-28-08 02:32 AM   #71 
                 - Then you would've been railing against Al Gore in 1992  Hippo_Tron   Jul-28-08 03:30 AM   #75 
                 - Then just stay with the facts  grantcart   Jul-28-08 09:40 AM   #89 
              - Who? Hillary? She has the very same position as Kaine...*against*  Liberal_Stalwart71   Jul-28-08 08:05 AM   #79 
                 - Who's talking about Hillary?  ruggerson   Jul-28-08 08:53 AM   #83 
                    - But, then who is suitable. Of all of the candidates for P and VP, the only one  Liberal_Stalwart71   Jul-28-08 10:50 AM   #95 
        - please see post 55  grantcart   Jul-28-08 01:07 AM   #56 
           - grantcart, he ran against Kilgore  ruggerson   Jul-28-08 09:05 AM   #84 
              - VA GLBT lists him as a "hero"  grantcart   Jul-28-08 10:43 AM   #94 
     - Oh good gravy, and if the single adopting parent dies, the child has nothing.  Bluebear   Jul-28-08 12:53 AM   #48 
     - It is clear that he has the strong support of VA gay community and this may be why  grantcart   Jul-28-08 01:11 AM   #58 
     - It is definitely a convoluted position - no question about it  grantcart   Jul-28-08 12:54 AM   #49 
     - "Governor Kaine Chooses To Appear With President Bush at Monticello"  Bluebear   Jul-28-08 01:22 AM   #64 
        - they simply listed his schedule without any comment what so ever  grantcart   Jul-28-08 01:41 AM   #66 
     - please see replies down thread  grantcart   Jul-28-08 01:55 AM   #69 
        - 'the Democratic GLBT ..who seem to embrace him with affection.' OK, please cite all this affection  Bluebear   Jul-28-08 02:39 AM   #72 
           - I could care less who Obama picks for VP but I think its going to be Kaine and  grantcart   Jul-28-08 02:53 AM   #73 
              - This is going in circles, I'm not about to research more "courageous" moves in conservative states  Bluebear   Jul-28-08 04:39 AM   #76 
  - Interestingly his first executive order was expanding civil rights for gays  grantcart   Jul-28-08 01:01 AM   #55 
     - He supported putting bigotry and exclusion in his state's constitution.  Harvey Korman   Jul-28-08 09:14 AM   #85 
        - Well you don't even bother reading before posting because it is obvious  grantcart   Jul-28-08 10:55 AM   #96 
           - You're spinning like a top  Harvey Korman   Jul-28-08 11:51 AM   #99 
  - They won't care.  Harvey Korman   Jul-28-08 09:14 AM   #86 
  - Further evidence shows that the "gay baiting" charge was a completely bogus  grantcart   Jul-28-08 11:24 AM   #98 
  - I'd be happy with this. nt  stratomagi   Jul-27-08 11:01 PM   #7 
  - Wouldn't object to Kaine being VP  bambino   Jul-27-08 11:03 PM   #8 
  - What is his area of expertise? He has only been governor for 3 years.  Mass   Jul-27-08 11:08 PM   #9 
  - If I am correct then I think the expertise that he was referring to  grantcart   Jul-27-08 11:15 PM   #16 
  - I did not get it this way. I understood it as economical policies or other areas.  Mass   Jul-27-08 11:17 PM   #20 
     - and you certainly could be right but listening to him again I was struck  grantcart   Jul-27-08 11:26 PM   #25 
  - We were at a graduation a couple of years ago and Tim Kaine  my3boyz   Jul-28-08 01:00 AM   #53 
  - Once again, Grantcart,  cliffordu   Jul-27-08 11:09 PM   #11 
  - It would really ease the last 3 months  Awsi Dooger   Jul-27-08 11:12 PM   #13 
  - I was at an event here in Kansas last week and Kaine's mom was there  proud2Blib   Jul-27-08 11:12 PM   #14 
  - Minor detail  proud2Blib   Jul-27-08 11:16 PM   #18 
  - even better it adds another state  grantcart   Jul-27-08 11:20 PM   #22 
     - When you live on the Kansas side of the Kansas City area,  proud2Blib   Jul-27-08 11:24 PM   #23 
  - good post  darius15   Jul-27-08 11:28 PM   #26 
  - Welcome to DU, darius15. Was it Jim Webb who said he was not  Old Crusoe   Jul-27-08 11:29 PM   #27 
     - thanks  darius15   Jul-27-08 11:33 PM   #29 
        - darius, we promise to do far better under Obama than under Bush  Old Crusoe   Jul-27-08 11:36 PM   #31 
  - Not a bad choice, but I want Hillary (or Biden)  elkston   Jul-27-08 11:30 PM   #28 
  - good points and I would welcome either but he has his mind made up and  grantcart   Jul-27-08 11:34 PM   #30 
  - let her be a surrogate  dwickham   Jul-28-08 12:43 AM   #41 
  - Seriously, you come from the year 2057, right? Just visiting to push us in the right direction?  phrigndumass   Jul-27-08 11:38 PM   #32 
  - Yes. I think your theory bears literal prophecy.  Old Crusoe   Jul-27-08 11:41 PM   #33 
     - LOL, me too!  phrigndumass   Jul-27-08 11:46 PM   #34 
        - Oh. Sorry -- I didn't know. Eight years of dubya have left me  Old Crusoe   Jul-27-08 11:48 PM   #35 
  - Who's Andrew and Jen?  Drunken Irishman   Jul-27-08 11:49 PM   #36 
  - The biggest problem is a silly one  MonkeyFunk   Jul-28-08 12:35 AM   #39 
  - Ha!!!  VolcanoJen   Jul-28-08 12:47 AM   #43 
     - Well, the BIGGEST problem is really  MonkeyFunk   Jul-28-08 12:56 AM   #51 
     - then you should re read the thread  grantcart   Jul-28-08 01:30 AM   #65 
     - Obama/Kaine for the soul  nxylas   Jul-28-08 12:00 PM   #101 
  - I don't think Obama wants another Obama. This guy sounds like Obama  wienerdoggie   Jul-28-08 12:41 AM   #40 
  - Interesting! You have me convinced. :) Great analysis! nt  my3boyz   Jul-28-08 12:49 AM   #44 
  - Interesting idea.  BlooInBloo   Jul-28-08 12:51 AM   #45 
  - I hope you're wrong, because I believe we need a unity ticket, Obama/Clinton, to unite the party.  highplainsdem   Jul-28-08 01:00 AM   #54 
  - He can't pick another female because Hillary fans would have a fit! nt  my3boyz   Jul-28-08 01:09 AM   #57 
  - I agree. I don't think he'll announce his choice this week. I think he'll wait till  highplainsdem   Jul-28-08 01:21 AM   #63 
  - Well... I *KNOW* you're wrong.... the party is already largely united.... "Unity Ticket" is dead  scheming daemons   Jul-28-08 09:16 AM   #87 
  - his death penalty pardons may be an issue  thatsrightimirish   Jul-28-08 01:15 AM   #59 
  - Interesting video about Kaine  grantcart   Jul-28-08 02:13 AM   #70 
  - Good ad...  RNdaSilva   Jul-28-08 03:19 AM   #74 
  - I'm hoping you're right.  jefferson_dem   Jul-28-08 04:58 AM   #77 
  - Thanks for providing all that information  davidpdx   Jul-28-08 06:43 AM   #78 
  - Kaine would be a good choice  nxylas   Jul-28-08 08:33 AM   #80 
  - I've always felt he should go with a governor  BeyondGeography   Jul-28-08 08:44 AM   #82 
  - kick  grantcart   Jul-28-08 09:37 AM   #88 
  - MSNBC: Obama ruling out Senators?  grantcart   Jul-28-08 09:53 AM   #91 
  - I doubt that he ruled anything out in that line  darius15   Jul-28-08 09:57 AM   #93 
  - who?  paulk   Jul-28-08 09:56 AM   #92 
  - When your day is done and you wanna run  Obama_for_our_future   Jul-28-08 11:01 AM   #97 
  - After watching the events unfold the last couple days, I have to wonder--  wienerdoggie   Jul-28-08 11:56 AM   #100 
  - Who?  truebrit71   Jul-28-08 12:01 PM   #102 
  - Yeah, that pretty much sums it up.  wienerdoggie   Jul-28-08 12:03 PM   #103 
  - Fine with me --- A.B.B. - ANYBODY BUT BAYH!!  Douglas Carpenter   Jul-28-08 12:07 PM   #104 
  - Further proof it will be Kaine...  Kristi1696   Jul-28-08 12:25 PM   #105 
     - I, obviously, agree but great links thank you  grantcart   Jul-28-08 09:13 PM   #106 
 

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