Walt Starr
(1000+ posts)
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Mon Aug-23-04 08:21 AM
Original message |
| George W. Bush was photographed wearing a ribbon he did not earn |
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 We can clearly see that in this picture, George W. Bush is wearing an Air Force Outstanding Unit Award and a Small Arms Expert Marksmanship Ribbon, however, on line 24 of his ARG22 National Guard discharge form, George W. Bush has NO awards listed:  Now, here in another picture where his father is pinning lieutenant bars on his shoulder, George W. Bush is again wearing the Small Arms Expert Marksmanship Ribbon:  So, in fairness we must give George W. Bush the benefit of the doubt here. Let's dig further and look at other records released by the Bush campaign team. Our next stop is a a Form AF11 dated May 16, 1971. You will note on this document Bush has already been promoted to First Lieutenant:  All that is listed in this document is the Small Arms Expert Marksmanship Ribbon. The Air Force Outstanding Unit Award is not listed. Our next stop is the "military biography" released by the Bush Campaign:   In this document, the claim is made that Bush was awarded the National Defense Service Medal and the Small Arms Expert Marksmanship Ribbon, BUT NO MENTION OF THE AIR FORCE OUTSTANDING UNIT AWARD!!! This document was clearly prepared after Bush's service ended. Exhaustive searches for any indication that any unit Bush served with was awarded the AFOUA have, to date, yielded nothing. The ONLY documents released by the Bush administration related to his service that make mention of any awards whatsoever have been included in this report. The only conclusion that can be made is George W. Bush wore a ribbon he did not earn in the above photograph. Webliography:USA Today source of documents used in this report: http://www.usatoday.com/news/2004-02-14-bush-docs.htm Source for ARG22: http://www.usatoday.com/news/bushdocs/2-Discharge.pdf Source for AF11: http://www.usatoday.com/news/bushdocs/11-4_2004_Personn... Source for "military biography": http://www.usatoday.com/news/bushdocs/11-1_2004_Personn...
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George W. Bush was photographed wearing a ribbon he did not earn |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 08:21 AM |
#0 |

he did however earn |
mharris660 |
Aug-23-04 08:25 AM |
#1 |
 
Time to roll out THIS classic: |
BlueEyedSon |
Aug-23-04 02:38 PM |
#63 |

Got here through a link at Buzzflash |
ruocal |
Aug-24-04 01:49 AM |
#155 |

LOLL |
mharris660 |
Aug-24-04 06:51 AM |
#167 |

Nice job. CNN, Fauz, ABC, NBC,CBS, MSNBC, and CNBC are on it |
Feeney2 |
Aug-23-04 08:27 AM |
#2 |
 
LINK TO EASY ACCESS TO MEDIA CONTACTS -- |
DeepModem Mom |
Aug-23-04 08:30 AM |
#3 |
 
Yeah right. |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 09:32 AM |
#14 |
 
If bush's lips are moving, then he is lying. |
TWiley |
Aug-23-04 11:55 AM |
#32 |

Is this your original work, Walt? |
benburch |
Aug-23-04 08:37 AM |
#4 |
 
Yep, started out as an attempt to compare Kerry's awards to *'s |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 09:30 AM |
#13 |

Walt, you and DoYouEverWonder are my heroes. |
blondeatlast |
Aug-23-04 08:40 AM |
#5 |
 
This is nothing more than a bit of Googling |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 09:45 AM |
#18 |

Way to go, Walt! |
zidzi |
Aug-23-04 08:14 PM |
#130 |

Michael Moore Moved on it!! |
zidzi |
Aug-23-04 10:18 PM |
#141 |

The red flag I saw was an award that appeared in no documentation |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 10:55 PM |
#145 |

The Plot is thickening! |
zidzi |
Aug-24-04 12:01 AM |
#147 |

some problems with your theory |
qazplm |
Aug-23-04 08:52 AM |
#6 |
 
AFOUA Requirements (This is an Air Force award, not an Army award) |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 09:27 AM |
#11 |
  
um, so can army unit citations |
qazplm |
Aug-23-04 09:43 AM |
#17 |
 
Not the AFOUA. |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 09:54 AM |
#19 |
 
sorry but i dont know of ANY |
qazplm |
Aug-23-04 10:38 AM |
#21 |
 
Thank your for the requiring I cite the regulation! |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 10:55 AM |
#24 |
  
thanks n/t |
DUreader |
Aug-23-04 11:06 AM |
#25 |
   
No problem, THIS IS FUN! |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 11:12 AM |
#27 |
  
you quoted |
qazplm |
Aug-23-04 03:24 PM |
#83 |
 
Bzzzzzt, WRONG ANSWER |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 03:31 PM |
#87 |
 
There is one instance in which ANY award is worn temporarily in the AF |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 03:35 PM |
#89 |
 
Do you have a copy of the regulation |
Frodo |
Aug-23-04 03:48 PM |
#94 |
 
No I don't |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 04:59 PM |
#106 |
 
So was the cited regulation enough for you? |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 11:34 AM |
#29 |
 
Just to humor you as well, here are pertinent sections from AR 670-1 |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 12:46 PM |
#36 |
 
AR 670-1 addresses mainly active duty awards. |
Why |
Aug-23-04 01:49 PM |
#51 |
  
In the Guard and Reserves, the host service regulations apply |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 01:55 PM |
#55 |
 
if the only authority |
qazplm |
Aug-23-04 03:19 PM |
#78 |
 
I quoted the AFI 36-2803 above! That's the reg. covering the AFOUA. |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 03:25 PM |
#84 |
 
think about this for a second ok... |
qazplm |
Aug-23-04 03:22 PM |
#82 |
  
Read post #24. I quoted the *AIR FORCE* regulation AFI 36-2803 |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 03:27 PM |
#85 |
 
Do we know for certain that the unit did not win the award while |
Frodo |
Aug-23-04 03:46 PM |
#93 |
  
No, we don't |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 04:51 PM |
#105 |
 
you have shown |
qazplm |
Aug-23-04 03:48 PM |
#95 |
 
You're asking me to prove a negative |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 05:07 PM |
#108 |
 
re: qazplm |
yibbehobba |
Aug-23-04 09:07 PM |
#134 |
 
Walt |
Blue Wally |
Aug-23-04 07:50 PM |
# |
 
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-23-04 07:50 PM |
#128 |
 
That's my experience also |
sampsonblk |
Aug-24-04 12:25 PM |
#196 |

Since you are researching ... |
BOHICA04 |
Aug-23-04 08:54 AM |
#7 |
 
This is different from those army awards |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 09:20 AM |
#9 |

My husband's DD-214 is complete, as well |
Moonbeam_Starlight |
Aug-23-04 09:27 PM |
#137 |

Good catch, Walt. I hope this gets media coverage. |
DemBones DemBones |
Aug-23-04 09:03 AM |
#8 |

Walt, my memory is hazy ... |
nownow |
Aug-23-04 09:25 AM |
#10 |
 
I don't question the SAEMR, Bush did not earn the AFOUA |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 09:29 AM |
#12 |

It appears that BOGUS DECORATIONS ARE A TRADITION WITH GENERATIONS OF |
flordehinojos |
Aug-23-04 09:35 AM |
#15 |
 
And there are those troubling allegations... |
benburch |
Aug-23-04 09:41 AM |
#16 |
  
These low life bushes! How they got to be in such a powerful place in life |
flordehinojos |
Aug-23-04 09:58 AM |
#20 |
 
Links? and Links!! |
Eloriel |
Aug-23-04 03:21 PM |
#79 |

Send that directly to David Hackworth. |
foktarded |
Aug-23-04 10:41 AM |
#22 |
 
Truer words were never spoken. |
bigmonkey |
Aug-23-04 10:50 AM |
#23 |

Not only will Hackworth not ignore it, |
foktarded |
Aug-23-04 12:59 PM |
#38 |

here's his email |
foktarded |
Aug-23-04 01:10 PM |
#40 |

Thanks, I sent him a link |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 01:25 PM |
#46 |

If this is true, then this is the ultimate indignity to our Armed Forces. |
MallRat |
Aug-23-04 11:07 AM |
#26 |
 
Well, some further evidence |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 11:20 AM |
#28 |

Hey Walt, dKos picked up on this thread and links back to DU! |
DesertDem |
Aug-23-04 11:49 AM |
#30 |

I'm still trying to figure out WHY he was promoted to 1st. Lt.??? N/T |
Caliphoto |
Aug-23-04 11:52 AM |
#31 |

70230, enlisted. question? |
seabeyond |
Aug-23-04 12:04 PM |
#33 |
 
The Draft Lottery |
Tims |
Aug-23-04 05:27 PM |
#115 |

I believe you are mistaken on the timeline. |
TankLV |
Aug-24-04 10:58 PM |
#228 |

if the medal is legit... |
grasswire |
Aug-23-04 12:15 PM |
#34 |

OMG, Walt |
grasswire |
Aug-23-04 12:38 PM |
#35 |
 
Kick |
Onlooker |
Aug-23-04 12:57 PM |
#37 |
 
GWB never mentions his Ohio family roots when campaigning in OH |
jean |
Aug-26-04 02:23 AM |
#255 |

My Heartiest Congratulations, Mr. Starr! |
The Magistrate |
Aug-23-04 01:09 PM |
#39 |
 
spread out, pals |
grasswire |
Aug-23-04 01:13 PM |
#42 |

Found the NGB22 from when he was released as Airman |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 01:12 PM |
#41 |
 
OMG, Bush was a SECOND LIEUTENANT IN THE PHOTOGRAPH!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 01:20 PM |
#45 |

help us out, Walt |
grasswire |
Aug-23-04 01:26 PM |
#47 |
 
Lower Left Hand Corner, it says, and I quote: |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 01:44 PM |
#50 |

for those who may be unfamiliar w/ some of this . . . |
TaleWgnDg |
Aug-24-04 02:01 AM |
#158 |

Sent it to a bunch of newspapers |
strizi64 |
Aug-23-04 01:13 PM |
#43 |
 
send the followup, too! |
grasswire |
Aug-23-04 01:19 PM |
#44 |

Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-23-04 01:33 PM |
#48 |

please remove that phone number immediately |
grasswire |
Aug-23-04 01:36 PM |
#49 |
 
That's ok to me |
strizi64 |
Aug-23-04 01:50 PM |
#53 |
 
thanks, mod |
grasswire |
Aug-23-04 01:51 PM |
#54 |

Please take out the contact information in this post |
Joanne98 |
Aug-23-04 01:49 PM |
#52 |

I've shrunk the time line for the photo! |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 02:12 PM |
#56 |
 
Walt, you are ALL THAT |
Karenina |
Aug-23-04 02:17 PM |
#57 |

Could applicable regulation have been subsequently changed? |
DarkHemlet |
Aug-23-04 02:31 PM |
#58 |
 
welcome to DU! |
grasswire |
Aug-23-04 02:34 PM |
#59 |
 
The AFOUA and surrounding regulations were created as a result |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 02:58 PM |
#69 |
  
thats absolutely not true |
qazplm |
Aug-23-04 04:11 PM |
#97 |
 
Are you talking *SPECIFICALLY* about the AFOUA? |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 05:30 PM |
#116 |
  
I am talking about awards regulations |
qazplm |
Aug-24-04 02:09 AM |
#160 |
 
No, actually I didn't |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 06:33 AM |
#166 |
 
Do you have a link to that forum? |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 05:46 PM |
#119 |
 
Welcome to DU. |
aquart |
Aug-23-04 03:06 PM |
#74 |
 
Thanks, & Found a date for initial 147th Outstanding Unit Award |
DarkHemlet |
Aug-23-04 03:28 PM |
#86 |

That's anectdotal |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 03:37 PM |
#91 |

Kick! |
David Zephyr |
Aug-23-04 02:36 PM |
#60 |

Did He Throw His Ribbon? |
DrFunkenstein |
Aug-23-04 02:37 PM |
#61 |

I'd be careful about making a big deal about a unit commendation: |
hlthe2b |
Aug-23-04 02:37 PM |
#62 |
 
This is true |
TrueAmerican |
Aug-23-04 02:57 PM |
#68 |
  
He was a second lieutenant in the picture. Officers are held to a higher |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 02:59 PM |
#70 |
 
True |
TrueAmerican |
Aug-23-04 03:02 PM |
#72 |
  
Also in my 20 years of service |
TrueAmerican |
Aug-23-04 03:04 PM |
#73 |
   
At the time of the picture he had only served between 1 and 2 years |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 03:11 PM |
#76 |
   
I have. |
Blue Wally |
Aug-24-04 05:21 AM |
#165 |
  
Then he can answer for his mistake. That does not alter the facts, though. |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 03:08 PM |
#75 |
 
May need to check previous units |
Milflier |
Aug-23-04 03:36 PM |
#90 |
 
There should be accompanying documentation for the award, regardless |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 03:41 PM |
#92 |
 
Agreed, only meant as a caution |
Milflier |
Aug-23-04 04:03 PM |
#96 |
 
10:1 I know what happened and why he wore it |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 05:45 PM |
#118 |
 
AFOUA |
CARENE |
Aug-25-04 11:06 PM |
#250 |
 
Try as I might, I cannot find the unit citation for the 147th FIG or the |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 03:01 PM |
#71 |
  
Well, as I recall, |
hlthe2b |
Aug-23-04 03:11 PM |
#77 |
   
Problem is, there are ample documents where this award *Should* |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 03:22 PM |
#81 |
   
Not only in OER |
Milflier |
Aug-23-04 04:21 PM |
#99 |
  
or you could be like me |
qazplm |
Aug-23-04 04:26 PM |
#101 |
  
"The 147th earned its first Air Force Outstanding Unit Award in 1966" |
Frodo |
Aug-23-04 04:15 PM |
#98 |
 
Yep, and 1982 is listed as a second award of the AFOUA |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 05:10 PM |
#109 |
 
Air Force Outstanding Unit Award |
CARENE |
Aug-25-04 10:43 PM |
#249 |

Has anyone sent it to Keith Olberman? |
Pirate Smile |
Aug-23-04 02:50 PM |
#64 |

Here is his alibi |
TrueAmerican |
Aug-23-04 02:52 PM |
#65 |

WTG Walt, this need a huge kick for the media boys n/t |
spokane |
Aug-23-04 02:53 PM |
#66 |

KICK THIS BABY |
Joanne98 |
Aug-23-04 02:56 PM |
#67 |
 
Double KICK! |
usg353d |
Aug-23-04 03:21 PM |
#80 |

Media, where are you? |
npincus |
Aug-23-04 03:33 PM |
#88 |
 
Welcome to DU! |
grasswire |
Aug-23-04 04:30 PM |
#102 |

This thread should NOT stop... <nt> (until * is retired) |
ABB_15501 |
Aug-23-04 04:23 PM |
#100 |

Trippi posted dKos link on Hardblogger! |
DesertDem |
Aug-23-04 04:42 PM |
#103 |
 
Walt - I have a question about the other medals |
Nancy Waterman |
Aug-23-04 05:12 PM |
#110 |
  
I'm unsure about when the Texas Service Medal was created |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 05:16 PM |
#112 |
 
I sent the missing medal thread |
Nancy Waterman |
Aug-23-04 05:25 PM |
#114 |
 
Congraulations Walt.. |
AuntPatsy |
Aug-23-04 09:49 PM |
#140 |
 
WOW |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 05:13 PM |
#111 |

MSNBC's Hardblogger is linking to DailyKos about this issue |
Pirate Smile |
Aug-23-04 04:44 PM |
#104 |
 
hoooray!! |
grasswire |
Aug-23-04 05:01 PM |
#107 |

I nominated this one for the front page! |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Aug-23-04 05:23 PM |
#113 |

Walt....here's some other info from KOS |
grasswire |
Aug-23-04 05:36 PM |
#117 |
 
Thanks, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ACCESS TO AIR FORCE PAMPHLET 900-2? |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 05:57 PM |
#120 |

Kick for AFP 900-2 |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 06:18 PM |
#121 |
 
One more time, kick for AFP 900-2 |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 06:39 PM |
#122 |

kick again |
grasswire |
Aug-23-04 07:02 PM |
#123 |

Pssst..... |
motivated |
Aug-23-04 07:56 PM |
#129 |

Wow Walt! |
curse10 |
Aug-23-04 07:05 PM |
#124 |

WOW! Great research! |
Misunderestimator |
Aug-23-04 07:28 PM |
#125 |

HEY!!! Past Duty Assignments WHERE IS ALABAMA ON IT????? |
robo |
Aug-23-04 07:44 PM |
#126 |
 
Actually, nowhere |
Walt Starr |
Aug-23-04 07:47 PM |
#127 |

Michael Moore loves you. |
shellbelle101 |
Aug-23-04 08:41 PM |
#131 |

ON GUARD -- OR AWOL? |
rosebud57 |
Aug-23-04 09:21 PM |
#135 |

welcome to DU |
grasswire |
Aug-23-04 09:24 PM |
#136 |

Wow! |
Spazito |
Aug-23-04 09:48 PM |
#139 |

Welcome to the DU. |
David Zephyr |
Aug-23-04 10:33 PM |
#143 |

Welcome to DU shellbelle |
charlie105 |
Aug-24-04 10:39 AM |
#179 |

I heard that the Outstanding Unit Award is a local award and would |
2004 Victory |
Aug-23-04 09:02 PM |
#132 |

Excellent work Walt Starr! |
Swamp_Rat |
Aug-23-04 09:02 PM |
#133 |
 
UH OH! USA TODAY ASKING QUESTIONS OF BUSH |
kicktheelephant |
Aug-23-04 09:43 PM |
#138 |

Thanks for posting, kicktheelephant, and welcome to DU!!! |
DeepModem Mom |
Aug-24-04 05:03 AM |
#164 |

Splendid work |
LimpDickCheney |
Aug-23-04 10:21 PM |
#142 |

I HEARD |
RDL |
Aug-23-04 10:38 PM |
#144 |

Well, goddam, Walt. |
ibegurpard |
Aug-23-04 11:12 PM |
#146 |
 
REally! |
zidzi |
Aug-24-04 02:00 AM |
#157 |

Kudos! |
martinheldt |
Aug-24-04 12:10 AM |
#148 |
 
Hey Marty! |
grasswire |
Aug-24-04 12:59 AM |
#149 |
 
I hope you stick around Martin! |
GloriaSmith |
Aug-24-04 01:14 AM |
# |
 
welcome to DU!! n/t |
TaleWgnDg |
Aug-24-04 01:47 AM |
#154 |
 
Wow! |
Spazito |
Aug-24-04 01:57 AM |
#156 |
 
Welcome to du, Martin Heldt! |
zidzi |
Aug-24-04 02:02 AM |
#159 |
 
Thanks for the post! |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Aug-24-04 02:24 AM |
#161 |
 
Welcome to DU, Marty! I can't see the document: |
Stephanie |
Aug-24-04 09:58 AM |
#175 |
 
Marty, can you email this doc to Walt or somebody? |
Stephanie |
Aug-24-04 10:45 AM |
#181 |

Nice job, Sherlock! |
Dr Fate |
Aug-24-04 01:14 AM |
#150 |

Have been checking the |
Target_Acquired |
Aug-24-04 01:36 AM |
#151 |

kick |
TeeYiYi |
Aug-24-04 01:38 AM |
#152 |

Brilliant! Well done! |
Scorpious_Maximus |
Aug-24-04 01:38 AM |
#153 |

TAFMS TAFCS |
LimpDickCheney |
Aug-24-04 03:00 AM |
#162 |

wow, is all i can say! Excellent job, Walt Starr!!! |
progressivebebe |
Aug-24-04 03:56 AM |
#163 |

This is being mentioned on Air America. |
slutticus |
Aug-24-04 06:59 AM |
#168 |

Great job, Walt! |
in_cog_ni_to |
Aug-24-04 08:33 AM |
#169 |

AAR Morning Sedition is talking about this!!! |
in_cog_ni_to |
Aug-24-04 08:35 AM |
#170 |

Sorry, Bush may well have correctly worn the ribbon. |
bwise |
Aug-24-04 09:21 AM |
#171 |
 
Please, cite the regulation |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 09:33 AM |
#172 |
  
1000+ posts, and you can't understand???? |
bwise |
Aug-24-04 09:47 AM |
#173 |
   
Again, you lack credibility |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 09:50 AM |
#174 |
  
You win, I'm releasing my entire military file to you... |
bwise |
Aug-24-04 11:27 AM |
#188 |
  
Anecdotal evidence is unacceptable |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 11:34 AM |
#189 |
  
Not Credible Either |
1timeonly |
Aug-24-04 10:37 AM |
#178 |
 
Then an officer should know better. |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 10:45 AM |
#180 |
  
what? |
qazplm |
Aug-24-04 11:17 AM |
#184 |
   
Give me the reg |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 11:22 AM |
#185 |
  
Regulations vs Custom |
1timeonly |
Aug-24-04 11:41 AM |
#190 |
  
Sorry, show me anything in writing, that's all I ask |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 11:48 AM |
#192 |
  
Not in the Air Force |
lazarus |
Aug-26-04 12:18 PM |
#264 |
  
Date the photo |
1timeonly |
Aug-24-04 11:45 AM |
#191 |
 
He should be authorized for the wings upon completion of UPT |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 12:06 PM |
#193 |
 
I'll see your AF in 1980 |
lazarus |
Aug-26-04 12:14 PM |
#263 |
 
I think you're missing the point |
Onlooker |
Aug-24-04 11:07 AM |
#182 |

Even if he WAS authorized to wear the ribbon under some now defunct |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 11:26 AM |
#187 |

Still looking for confirmation on AFP 900-2 and old copies of regs. |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 10:08 AM |
#176 |
 
great cross checking Walt, Keep up the good work |
gasperc |
Aug-24-04 10:13 AM |
#177 |

Yes, and possibly.. like some duers have |
zidzi |
Aug-24-04 11:15 AM |
#183 |

Like the Texas Faithful Service Medal? |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 11:23 AM |
#186 |

NDSM |
martinheldt |
Aug-24-04 12:21 PM |
#195 |

Yep, from the way the regs are worded on the NDSM, he was ineligible |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 12:43 PM |
#197 |

Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-24-04 01:55 PM |
#199 |

This is nothing personal |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 02:20 PM |
#200 |

BTW, his active duty was for training, not a federal activation order |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 02:21 PM |
#201 |

Read the reg and |
bwise |
Aug-24-04 03:03 PM |
#203 |

If he was awarded the medal, please present the documentation |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 03:21 PM |
#205 |

You know what, I just figured out where the documentation is for the NDSM! |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 03:41 PM |
#208 |

Out of Uniform |
LimpDickCheney |
Aug-24-04 12:20 PM |
#194 |

Troubling information regarding the "temporary wear" of Unit Awards |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 01:39 PM |
#198 |
 
thanks, Walt |
grasswire |
Aug-24-04 02:32 PM |
#202 |
 
URL |
1timeonly |
Aug-24-04 05:01 PM |
#213 |
 
Do I understand this correctly? Bush is wearing a ribbon because |
Jack from Charlotte |
Aug-24-04 06:46 PM |
#217 |

The best part of this thread is the freeps quibbling about details. |
John_H |
Aug-24-04 03:21 PM |
#204 |
 
My favorite was the requirement that I prove the Air Force had a specific |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 03:33 PM |
#206 |
 
Take no prisoners |
npincus |
Aug-24-04 04:02 PM |
#209 |
  
If nothing else, Kerry's awards must be shown beside Dubya's |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 04:20 PM |
#210 |
 
Your Fav |
1timeonly |
Aug-24-04 04:35 PM |
#211 |

Provide the documentation |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 04:41 PM |
#212 |

Great work Walt! |
Willy Mugobeer |
Aug-24-04 03:34 PM |
#207 |
 
another celebrity visits Walt's thread! |
grasswire |
Aug-24-04 11:11 PM |
#231 |
 
Thank you |
Walt Starr |
Aug-25-04 12:44 AM |
#234 |
 
Welcome to DU |
Joanne98 |
Aug-25-04 11:58 AM |
#239 |

Thanks Joanne... |
Willy Mugobeer |
Aug-26-04 12:52 PM |
#265 |

yeah I seen it |
Joanne98 |
Aug-26-04 07:05 PM |
#276 |

Temporary wearing of Unit Awards in Air force DEBUNKED! |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 05:06 PM |
#214 |
 
Another kick for the naysayers |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 05:37 PM |
#215 |

Not DEBUNKED! |
Herosmith |
Aug-24-04 06:21 PM |
#216 |

You GOTTA read the above post!!!! |
John_H |
Aug-24-04 06:48 PM |
#218 |
 
ROFLMAO!!! |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 08:23 PM |
#220 |

Um...dude, like, that's *NOT* the award Bush was wearing. |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 08:07 PM |
#219 |

You're such a nice boy... |
Paul_H |
Aug-24-04 09:12 PM |
#222 |
 
Another 'In Your Face Kick" |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 10:40 PM |
#226 |

Air Force Regulations |
P_J 4 Kerry |
Aug-25-04 11:13 PM |
#251 |

I verified the information via the AFPC |
Walt Starr |
Aug-26-04 05:45 PM |
#271 |

So evidence contrary to what you want to believe |
bwise |
Aug-24-04 10:07 PM |
#225 |

Nope, unfounded claims that are in direct contradiction to the evidence |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 10:46 PM |
#227 |

One more kick in the face of the naysayers |
Walt Starr |
Aug-24-04 09:08 PM |
#221 |
 
Yes there is. |
Paul_H |
Aug-24-04 09:45 PM |
#223 |
  
"There is anectdotal evidence " |
RetroLounge |
Aug-24-04 11:01 PM |
#229 |
 
The point is.... |
Paul_H |
Aug-24-04 11:49 PM |
#232 |
 
Ol' half-a-John_H here is missing the point. |
John_H |
Aug-25-04 11:44 AM |
#238 |
 
But there is some value to this thread |
Paul_H |
Aug-24-04 09:49 PM |
#224 |

I'm still puzzled by the "TAFMS" and "TAFCS" in Box 24... |
Willy Mugobeer |
Aug-26-04 01:01 PM |
#266 |

So what's the bottom line? Does this dog hunt? |
zulchzulu |
Aug-24-04 11:06 PM |
#230 |
 
I believe I had made my case beyond a reasonable doubt in the first post |
Walt Starr |
Aug-25-04 12:42 AM |
#233 |

Good job, Walt! |
zidzi |
Aug-25-04 01:28 AM |
#235 |

Do you have any clue what a Unit Award is? |
Billjohn |
Aug-25-04 11:30 AM |
#236 |
 
This is an Air Force unit award, not an Army unit award |
Walt Starr |
Aug-25-04 11:34 AM |
#237 |

This thread is getting to long |
Joanne98 |
Aug-25-04 12:15 PM |
#240 |

found this page |
masshole |
Aug-25-04 01:28 PM |
#241 |

Great job Walt. Keep digging, keep this alive. |
RetroLounge |
Aug-25-04 01:34 PM |
#242 |
 
I don't know about anyone else, but |
no_more_W |
Aug-25-04 02:36 PM |
#243 |
  
If the photo was doctored, the Busheviks did the doctoring |
Walt Starr |
Aug-25-04 02:38 PM |
#244 |
 
no question the Busheviks would have done the doctoring |
no_more_W |
Aug-25-04 02:53 PM |
#245 |
 
no question the Busheviks would have done the doctoring |
no_more_W |
Aug-25-04 02:56 PM |
#246 |
 
Doctored? No. Lemme 'splain. |
Pot Kettle Black |
Aug-25-04 05:51 PM |
#247 |
 
Thanks for the info! |
Walt Starr |
Aug-25-04 08:55 PM |
#248 |
 
Yeah, keep digging, Walt. |
Paul_H |
Aug-25-04 11:36 PM |
#252 |

If I were a lawyer, I'd say.... |
Pot Kettle Black |
Aug-26-04 12:14 AM |
#253 |
 
thanks Pot Kettle Black |
no_more_W |
Aug-26-04 11:19 AM |
#262 |

If I were a lawyer, I'd say.... |
Pot Kettle Black |
Aug-26-04 12:15 AM |
#254 |

Additional information to be released later this afternoon |
Walt Starr |
Aug-26-04 09:29 AM |
#256 |

The Word is out at Freepville...they are wetting themselves... |
hexola |
Aug-26-04 10:59 AM |
#257 |
 
Wait until I break my information this afternoon |
Walt Starr |
Aug-26-04 11:03 AM |
#258 |
  
Walt, can we start a new thread on this? |
GloriaSmith |
Aug-26-04 11:13 AM |
#259 |
   
Sounds like Walt's gonna start another later today...nt |
hexola |
Aug-26-04 11:17 AM |
#260 |
  
We're waiting, Walt. Great job; thank you. n/t |
Kukesa |
Aug-26-04 11:18 AM |
#261 |
  
Where is this going? |
npincus |
Aug-26-04 06:33 PM |
#274 |
 
It's amazing how much those idiots lurk over here and they admit it. |
cat_girl25 |
Aug-26-04 05:36 PM |
#270 |

I have learned so much from this thread. |
myrna minx |
Aug-26-04 01:03 PM |
#267 |

Kick |
Lex |
Aug-26-04 05:23 PM |
#268 |

*kick* |
NV1962 |
Aug-26-04 05:28 PM |
#269 |
 
I hope your new thread is before bedtime. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Aug-26-04 05:59 PM |
#272 |

The whole election could hinge on this information. This may be |
ArkDem |
Aug-26-04 06:18 PM |
#273 |

Oh, puleeze! |
Paul_H |
Aug-26-04 06:59 PM |
#275 |