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62. Here's The Exact Quotes Once Again
Here's what Obama told Walter Pacheco of the Orlando Sentinel on May 22nd:

"One of the obvious high priorities in my talks with President Hugo Chavez would be the fermentation of anti-American sentiment in Latin America, his support of (Marxist narco-terrorists) FARC in Colombia, and other issues he would want to talk about,"

And in a speech delivered before the right-wing Cuban-American National Foundation on May 23rd Obama said:

""We will shine a light on any support for the FARC that comes from neighboring governments. This behavior must be exposed to international condemnation, regional isolation, and -- if need be -- strong sanctions. It must not stand."

Obama continued, "We have to hold Venezuela accountable if, in fact, it is trying to ferment terrorist activities in other borders. If Venezuela has violated those rules, we should mobilize all the countries to sanction Venezuela and let them know that that's not acceptable behavior."

Obama knows for a fact that Venezuela and Chavez are not fermenting "terrorist activities" so why did he even suggest this might be happening to a meeting of the right-wing Cuban-American National Foundation?

And Obama surely knows that Hugo Chavez called upon FARC to release all of their hostages and to end their armed activities in Columbia, so his claim that Chavez's "supports FARC in Columbia" is simply not the truth.

So why is Obama spreading these untruths about Chavez and Venezuela?
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  -Obama Calls Hugo Chavez Enemy Of U.S. Urges Sanctions Against Venezuela! Better Believe It  Jul-17-08 10:55 AM   #0 
  - Oh, joy  blogslut   Jul-17-08 10:58 AM   #1 
  - move to the center expected, but damn WHIPLASH. So much for heating oil help for the poor  NightWatcher   Jul-17-08 10:58 AM   #2 
  - I think he overshot the center some time ago.  DemItAllAnyway   Jul-17-08 11:02 AM   #4 
     - Please explain HOW Obama has "overshot" on this.  NattPang   Jul-17-08 11:12 AM   #9 
        - The article claims Obama has already called Chavez an enemy of the US. No ifs there.  DemItAllAnyway   Jul-17-08 04:36 PM   #144 
           - OH! The article claimed it ...  RoyGBiv   Jul-17-08 05:21 PM   #153 
              - I don't recall Obama calling Chavez enemy of the state  davidsharon   Jul-17-08 09:04 PM   #168 
                 - Funny though ...  RoyGBiv   Jul-17-08 09:47 PM   #176 
  - Tough campaign talk,  countingbluecars   Jul-17-08 11:00 AM   #3 
  - Will Chavez Now Conclude He Should Not Meet With Obama?  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 11:08 AM   #6 
     - My guess is Chavez will be  countingbluecars   Jul-17-08 11:27 AM   #20 
     - Do you think this is just posturing on boths sides? It's possible  sfexpat2000   Jul-17-08 02:21 PM   #101 
        - Not only that I think Obama benefits from Chavez saying he's no different than McTaint.  Guy Whitey Corngood   Jul-17-08 02:33 PM   #104 
           - Interesting. That could be right. n/t  sfexpat2000   Jul-17-08 02:35 PM   #108 
              - I remember reading once that Chavez said he wouldn't want to show  Guy Whitey Corngood   Jul-17-08 02:43 PM   #110 
                 - I remember that, too. Yeah, he's no dummie. n/t  sfexpat2000   Jul-17-08 02:44 PM   #111 
     - Worse yet,  polmaven   Jul-17-08 01:11 PM   #61 
     - Did you miss all the IF's in Obama's statement? n/t  rox63   Jul-17-08 02:45 PM   #112 
     - I doubt it. After all the shit that flew between him and Alvaro Uribe  Guy Whitey Corngood   Jul-17-08 02:46 PM   #113 
  - Here's some quotes .. and he never said its SET IN STONE  cbc5g   Jul-17-08 11:06 AM   #5 
  - Obama Should Stick To The Facts And The Truth  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 11:15 AM   #12 
     - Actually Obama is half right.  vaberella   Jul-17-08 11:51 AM   #36 
     - What proof do you have that  Freddie Stubbs   Jul-17-08 03:35 PM   #124 
        - I Have All I That You Or I Should Need  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 04:57 PM   #147 
  - Is there a quote in there as to what Obama said exactly?  NattPang   Jul-17-08 11:10 AM   #7 
  - Here's The Quote From The Article  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 11:24 AM   #17 
     - That is not a quote from Obama.  NattPang   Jul-17-08 12:18 PM   #43 
     - The problem is, Obama has said these things. I heard him  sfexpat2000   Jul-17-08 01:42 PM   #76 
        - Didn't the government take control of at least some of hte media?  JenniferZ   Jul-17-08 01:56 PM   #89 
        - No. The government waited 5 years not to renew the license  sfexpat2000   Jul-17-08 02:17 PM   #99 
        - No, Global's License Expired, Not Re-Newed.  justinaforjustice   Jul-17-08 04:35 PM   #143 
        - He needs Noam Chomsky as his advisor.  Cleita   Jul-17-08 09:29 PM   #173 
        - if only  leftchick   Jul-18-08 12:16 PM   #179 
        - That Would Work!  Better Believe It   Jul-18-08 12:22 PM   #180 
        - really not surprising to me  leftchick   Jul-18-08 12:04 PM   #177 
     - That is not a direct quote from Obama,  SidneyCarton   Jul-17-08 03:36 PM   #126 
  - It's hot air that benefits both Chavez and Obama.  geek tragedy   Jul-17-08 11:12 AM   #8 
  - I agree with you and will go a litte fruther with this  rebel with a cause   Jul-17-08 11:57 AM   #37 
     - Nobody's going to vote for McCain because they  geek tragedy   Jul-17-08 12:16 PM   #42 
        - Huh?  rebel with a cause   Jul-17-08 01:40 PM   #75 
           - I was agreeing with you. n/t  geek tragedy   Jul-17-08 02:28 PM   #102 
              - Okay, I am sorry I didn't caught on.  rebel with a cause   Jul-17-08 02:54 PM   #115 
  - Why do you ask "is this true"? We all know your game.  cryingshame   Jul-17-08 11:13 AM   #10 
  - Because I Hope It Isn't  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 11:17 AM   #14 
  - Oh, be honest, we're currently between outrages here  SidneyCarton   Jul-17-08 03:38 PM   #129 
  - Exactly. I've been watching Mr. BBI  Kaleko   Jul-17-08 05:03 PM   #148 
  - What you actually have there is a quote from Chavez calling Chavez an enemy of the US.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jul-17-08 11:14 AM   #11 
  - Six months ago Chavez was ranting about how he was looking forward to meeting with Obama, what  Imagevision   Jul-17-08 11:15 AM   #13 
  - Chavez Rants? How's That For An Unbiased Caption!  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 11:30 AM   #21 
  - Obama said "if" it is proven that Venezuela supports FARC, then etc. n/t  ieoeja   Jul-17-08 12:53 PM   #55 
     - Some folks here seem to be clueless about the if/then type of  JenniferZ   Jul-17-08 01:57 PM   #91 
  - This article is bullshit. That's what happened.  Radical Activist   Jul-17-08 01:15 PM   #66 
     - So is the OP. nt  mckeown1128   Jul-17-08 02:10 PM   #94 
  - Chavez may not be as nice as you think he is  bambino   Jul-17-08 11:19 AM   #15 
  - I hate that crap!!! Watch this film listed below:  vaberella   Jul-17-08 11:32 AM   #22 
  - Human Rights and Democracy Are Thriving in Venezuela.  justinaforjustice   Jul-17-08 02:12 PM   #96 
     - Thank you for that first-hand account, JustinfJ!  Kaleko   Jul-17-08 05:07 PM   #149 
     - !...Recommending Post #96 (justinaforjustice) for Greatest Page.  bvar22   Jul-17-08 05:19 PM   #152 
  - Thank you for your "concern"  SurfingAtWork   Jul-17-08 11:19 AM   #16 
  - Without a Direct Obama quote, Article Is Useless  Median Democrat   Jul-17-08 11:32 AM   #23 
     - THANK YOU!!! This is all lies!!  vaberella   Jul-17-08 12:02 PM   #39 
  - There are posters here who believe this crap?! Who wrote this?!  vaberella   Jul-17-08 11:24 AM   #18 
  - Chavez is a dyed in the wool Commie  redcatcherb412   Jul-17-08 11:27 AM   #19 
  - Oh You're A "Redcatcher" That's Just Wonderful!  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 11:35 AM   #24 
  - LOL  redcatcherb412   Jul-17-08 11:47 AM   #32 
     - "too young for McCarthy-ism"  Bornaginhooligan   Jul-17-08 02:16 PM   #98 
  - P.O.E.  Forkboy   Jul-17-08 11:36 AM   #25 
  - Go back to your right-wing home. nt  TooBigaTent   Jul-17-08 11:41 AM   #27 
  - Get your facts...  vaberella   Jul-17-08 11:42 AM   #28 
  - Hear about that new baseball team, the "Mets"? Man, they're bad  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Jul-17-08 11:47 AM   #31 
  - You don't know shit about Chavez.. You bought the  RethugAssKicker   Jul-17-08 11:50 AM   #33 
  - I dunno  redcatcherb412   Jul-17-08 11:51 AM   #35 
     - LOL  Bornaginhooligan   Jul-17-08 02:17 PM   #100 
     - FAIL  fascisthunter   Jul-17-08 03:41 PM   #131 
  - .  sniffa   Jul-17-08 01:23 PM   #70 
  - .  DustyJoe   Jul-17-08 04:37 PM   #146 
  - You came straight from my parent's LR, circa 1955  tkmorris   Jul-17-08 02:30 PM   #103 
  - who won the '69 world series?!  frylock   Jul-17-08 02:43 PM   #109 
  - get a gps  Warren Stupidity   Jul-17-08 08:00 PM   #164 
  - Crap? Here's an excerpt from Obama's speech in May  wyldwolf   Jul-17-08 12:22 PM   #44 
     - Obama is right about this,I don't see what the  sufrommich   Jul-17-08 12:36 PM   #50 
  - Chavez recently said he would cut off oil to the United States  zulchzulu   Jul-17-08 11:40 AM   #26 
  - Soon probably won't be soon enough.  redcatcherb412   Jul-17-08 11:43 AM   #29 
  - Actually he's threatening not to sell or at least  vaberella   Jul-17-08 11:45 AM   #30 
     - He should cut U.S. off from his oil  redcatcherb412   Jul-17-08 11:50 AM   #34 
     - True, however, if he changes the money used to purchase oil within OPEC  vaberella   Jul-17-08 12:00 PM   #38 
     - How exactly does Chavez give "free oil" to the Bronx?  zulchzulu   Jul-17-08 12:42 PM   #53 
        - I know Venezuela provides oil to Joe Kennedy's Citizen's Energy non-profit  rox63   Jul-17-08 02:58 PM   #116 
  - Chavez doesn't really like America, in case you haven't noticed.  anonymous171   Jul-17-08 12:07 PM   #40 
  - Given the US's history in SA and the Caribbean can you blame him?  vaberella   Jul-17-08 12:35 PM   #49 
  - Of course. His dislike may be justified but it is still dislike.  anonymous171   Jul-17-08 12:41 PM   #52 
  - Chavez doesn't like Bush criminals. He likes Americans just fine  sfexpat2000   Jul-17-08 01:45 PM   #79 
  - and he's correct. Just like Brian Schweitzer  wyldwolf   Jul-17-08 12:08 PM   #41 
  - I totally agree with Schweitzer  MrWiggles   Jul-17-08 01:15 PM   #65 
  - Another throwback to a bygone age...  tkmorris   Jul-17-08 02:34 PM   #105 
  - You have failed with this post.  NattPang   Jul-17-08 12:24 PM   #45 
  - Here's what Obama said in May  wyldwolf   Jul-17-08 12:32 PM   #48 
  - Obama's Quoted Statements Are Pretty Bad And You Support Them?  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 01:01 PM   #57 
     - Can you prove beyond shadow of a doubt  shagsak   Jul-17-08 01:57 PM   #90 
     - Sooooo...  SidneyCarton   Jul-17-08 03:43 PM   #134 
  - Is that what supporters can expect from the presumptive presidential candidate of Change? n/t  jody   Jul-17-08 12:27 PM   #46 
  - This is much like the crap on him about raising taxes---there are blog news articles on that too.  vaberella   Jul-17-08 12:38 PM   #51 
  - he's right. nt.  IndianaJones   Jul-17-08 12:28 PM   #47 
  - Yeah, golly gee, why oh why would Obama talk tough about Chavez?  Overseas   Jul-17-08 12:50 PM   #54 
  - YEAH! They should go visit Mosque together too!  anonymous171   Jul-17-08 12:53 PM   #56 
  - To Win Over World Opinion Which Is With Chavez?  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 01:06 PM   #58 
     - World knows Bush is deranged. Many Western allies dislike Chavez.  Overseas   Jul-17-08 01:18 PM   #67 
  - Why isn't there a quote from Obama?  Radical Activist   Jul-17-08 01:09 PM   #59 
  - Here's The Exact Quotes Once Again  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 01:11 PM   #62 
     - So the title of your post is a complete lie?  Radical Activist   Jul-17-08 01:14 PM   #64 
     - No, That's A Quote From The Article  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 01:36 PM   #73 
        - Read the highlights.  ieoeja   Jul-17-08 02:34 PM   #106 
        - Your post subject is a complete lie.  Radical Activist   Jul-17-08 03:55 PM   #138 
     - This cannot be a direct quote  Zodiak Ironfist   Jul-18-08 12:46 PM   #182 
  - Wow. Some serious Chavez worship in this thread.  anonymous171   Jul-17-08 01:10 PM   #60 
  - Kinda Like M.L.King, Nelson Mandela & Barack Obama Worship?  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 01:14 PM   #63 
  - Oh, great! And fuck all the Americans depending on discount heating oil from him too!!  Breeze54   Jul-17-08 01:21 PM   #68 
  - please read the article  druidity33   Jul-17-08 05:42 PM   #155 
  - I believe President Chavez just did Senator Obama a huge favor. n/t  Guy Whitey Corngood   Jul-17-08 01:23 PM   #69 
  - OBAMA DIDN'T SAY WHAT THE OP CLAIMED !!!! THE OP IS WRONG !!! THX  uponit7771   Jul-17-08 01:31 PM   #71 
  - Yes He Did! Here's The Obama Quotes  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 01:38 PM   #74 
     - You're being obtuse ...  RoyGBiv   Jul-17-08 06:43 PM   #160 
  - "Chavez said there was no difference between the two [McCain and Obama.]"  anonymous171   Jul-17-08 01:33 PM   #72 
  - In their rhetoric about Venezuela and, he's right. n/t  sfexpat2000   Jul-17-08 01:46 PM   #80 
  - Do you really think Chavez is a friend of the U.S.?  Unsane   Jul-17-08 01:42 PM   #77 
  - Chavez has never been anti-America but anti-BushCo. n/t  sfexpat2000   Jul-17-08 01:44 PM   #78 
  - Not anymore. I have no doubt he will continue his rhetoric once Bush is out.  anonymous171   Jul-17-08 01:47 PM   #81 
     - Unless Obama Drops His "Tough" Rhetoric When He Becomes President  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 01:50 PM   #85 
     - The empire and the people are two different entities.  sfexpat2000   Jul-17-08 01:52 PM   #87 
  - He's Not An Enemy Of Mine, He Is The Enemy Of Bush & Company  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 01:48 PM   #82 
  - Guess we better elect John McCain then...sheesh, will you people ever stop  Truth Hurts A Lot   Jul-17-08 01:49 PM   #83 
  - Kerry was villified at first. It's taken years for people to get over it.  anonymous171   Jul-17-08 01:50 PM   #84 
  - Why Do You Draw That Conclusion?  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 01:52 PM   #86 
  - You have yet to post a positive article about Obama in your time here.  BushDespiser12   Jul-17-08 03:07 PM   #119 
     - That's Not True: Are You Monitoring Everyone's Posts?  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 03:29 PM   #122 
        - A representative sampling of your concerned OPs:  BushDespiser12   Jul-17-08 04:00 PM   #141 
           - You Carefully Pick & Choose Only 780+ More To Go!  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 05:07 PM   #150 
              - Comrade Better Believe It, you are not posting correct thought and articles... n/t  stimbox   Jul-17-08 06:41 PM   #159 
  - Man, I wish I could K&R your response. **RECOMMENDED** NT  JenniferZ   Jul-17-08 02:05 PM   #93 
  - Obama has always had the establishment democratic attitude toward Chavez  Enrique   Jul-17-08 01:54 PM   #88 
  - Hmm. You seem to be regularly concerned about stuff here.  JenniferZ   Jul-17-08 02:02 PM   #92 
  - Are You Also Regularly Concerned About "Stuff"?  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 02:34 PM   #107 
  - Oh dear.  ronnykmarshall   Jul-17-08 02:11 PM   #95 
  - noisy cicadas  ElsewheresDaughter   Jul-17-08 02:13 PM   #97 
  - BREAKING NEWS!!!! Obama delcares CANADA ENEMY OF US....  mckeown1128   Jul-17-08 02:47 PM   #114 
  - This is one thing I just can't understand about DU.  olkaz   Jul-17-08 03:00 PM   #117 
  - I don't either.  anonymous171   Jul-17-08 03:05 PM   #118 
  - BS, you obviously know nothing about Chavez.  vaberella   Jul-17-08 03:38 PM   #130 
     - Hey! I'm not saying America has done some incredibly shitty imperialistic things to Latin America  anonymous171   Jul-17-08 03:41 PM   #132 
  - It's All About Class  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 03:18 PM   #120 
  - Finally someone who has the knowledge of the situation.  vaberella   Jul-17-08 03:23 PM   #121 
  - He is so not a revolutionary. He's just a politician who likes to imagine himself as one.  anonymous171   Jul-17-08 03:37 PM   #128 
     - Actually he is revolutionary in the moves he's making in the SA  vaberella   Jul-17-08 03:43 PM   #133 
  - Maybe you need to learn about Chavez beyond what CNN tels you  harun   Jul-17-08 05:14 PM   #151 
  - Me either ...  RoyGBiv   Jul-17-08 06:39 PM   #158 
  - So you lied about what Obama said, and you won't confront anyone who calls you out...  Elrond Hubbard   Jul-17-08 03:31 PM   #123 
  - Here Is What Obama Said And You're Calling Them Lies?  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 03:36 PM   #125 
  - That's why he said 'IF' 'IF' 'IF'!!! Do you lack reading skills?  Elrond Hubbard   Jul-17-08 03:37 PM   #127 
     - hahahahaha I love it..."do you lack reading skills"  vaberella   Jul-17-08 03:46 PM   #135 
     - The title of the OP is a blatant lie.  Elrond Hubbard   Jul-17-08 03:48 PM   #136 
     - There Are No 'If's" Either Chavez Is A Terrorist Supporter Or He Isn't  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 03:53 PM   #137 
     - Why are you so concerned? And your OP title is still a deliberate lie.  Elrond Hubbard   Jul-17-08 03:56 PM   #139 
     - "If" you really believe what you're typing then you're a total fucking moron who can't read.  Radical Activist   Jul-17-08 03:57 PM   #140 
     - Yes ...  RoyGBiv   Jul-17-08 05:27 PM   #154 
        - Sorry: I'm Just Not Going To Repeat The Right-Wing Smears Against Chavez  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 06:21 PM   #156 
           - And this is relevant how?  RoyGBiv   Jul-17-08 06:30 PM   #157 
              - Progressives Who Understand What's Going On Don't Echo The Right-Wings Anti-Chavez Propaganda  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 06:53 PM   #161 
                 - Again, missing the relevance ...  RoyGBiv   Jul-17-08 07:00 PM   #162 
  - The OP is not lying. n/t  sfexpat2000   Jul-17-08 04:37 PM   #145 
     - Okay. Deliberately misleading, then.  Elrond Hubbard   Jul-17-08 08:38 PM   #166 
        - No, that's pretty much what Obama keeps saying.  sfexpat2000   Jul-18-08 04:05 PM   #183 
  - That doesn't describe a move toward "the center" of anything.  iconicgnom   Jul-17-08 04:05 PM   #142 
  - look who just ordered himself a pizza  provis99   Jul-17-08 07:16 PM   #163 
  - Not really. He's changed positions a few times,  Marie26   Jul-17-08 08:26 PM   #165 
  - It Still Was Pretty Bad  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 09:01 PM   #167 
     - It's not that hard to believe  Marie26   Jul-17-08 09:09 PM   #169 
  - Chvez is also a politician  Duder   Jul-17-08 09:17 PM   #170 
  - This would be a very bad move for Obama to continue the official USA  Cleita   Jul-17-08 09:28 PM   #171 
  - reconsiders what?  mckeown1128   Jul-17-08 09:29 PM   #172 
     - Go down to post #76 by  Cleita   Jul-17-08 09:32 PM   #174 
     - Obama Needs To Reconsider These Statements And Back Off!  Better Believe It   Jul-17-08 09:44 PM   #175 
  - from may...."No wonder, then, that demagogues like Hugo Chvez have stepped into this vacuum,"  leftchick   Jul-18-08 12:13 PM   #178 
  - This Would Have Been A Much Better Lead Caption To The Post  Better Believe It   Jul-18-08 12:40 PM   #181 

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