Youphemism
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Mon Jul-14-08 12:37 AM
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| 17. The true sin of most satire deemed "offensive" is that it's just not funny enough... |
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This is why even the stiff, pompous justices of the Supreme Court sided with Larry Flynt. The image of Jerry Falwell endorsing the booze he preferred to drink while masturbating in an outhouse was funny enough to outweigh the notion of depriving the country of that sort of humor.
The New Yorker, as always in its attempts at humor, falls short.
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| -don't mock me for not liking the New Yorker cover |
CreekDog |
Jul-14-08 12:13 AM |
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You forgot: "you're just not smart enough to understand satire" |
AZBlue |
Jul-14-08 12:16 AM |
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i saw some of what they called you |
CreekDog |
Jul-14-08 12:17 AM |
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Thanks! |
AZBlue |
Jul-14-08 12:42 AM |
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That's bullshit. I'm sorry that happened. |
thecatburgler |
Jul-14-08 12:36 AM |
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It's ok, it happens. |
AZBlue |
Jul-14-08 12:43 AM |
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Yes, only "thin skinned uneducated hayseeds" who clearly lack any sense |
Lorien |
Jul-14-08 01:24 AM |
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you know it, Lorien |
Skittles |
Jul-14-08 01:37 AM |
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I'm wasn't bothered by the cover but I respect your opinion |
thecatburgler |
Jul-14-08 12:18 AM |
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and the afro is a stereotype on a woman that does not wear one |
CreekDog |
Jul-14-08 12:20 AM |
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I remember someone on DailyKos posted a picture of |
redstate_democrat |
Jul-14-08 12:22 AM |
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Entirely two different things.... |
HardWorkingDem |
Jul-14-08 12:27 AM |
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when you engage in stereotypes, even as satire, you have a responsibility |
CreekDog |
Jul-14-08 12:38 AM |
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Let me ask you this.... |
HardWorkingDem |
Jul-14-08 12:45 AM |
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do you think there is a segment that thinks of Jewish people as anti semetic stereotypes |
CreekDog |
Jul-14-08 12:46 AM |
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You are purposely misrepresenting the contex of the cover... |
HardWorkingDem |
Jul-14-08 01:05 AM |
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so if they portrayed Joe as a Jewish stereotype |
CreekDog |
Jul-14-08 01:09 AM |
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It. Would. Never. Happen. |
LowerManhattanite |
Jul-14-08 01:20 AM |
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If under the same circumstances, yes.... |
HardWorkingDem |
Jul-14-08 01:23 AM |
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name one cover that had a Jewish stereotype |
CreekDog |
Jul-14-08 01:25 AM |
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IF...IF...IF.....thought you were done with me... |
HardWorkingDem |
Jul-14-08 01:26 AM |
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not one example of a Jewish stereotype |
CreekDog |
Jul-14-08 01:30 AM |
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While I understand |
polmaven |
Jul-14-08 09:50 AM |
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Yes. |
DesertedRose |
Jul-14-08 09:39 AM |
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It may be two different things in that the NYr cover is supposed to be poking |
redstate_democrat |
Jul-14-08 01:30 AM |
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I took in the context of my experience with the New Yorker. |
thecatburgler |
Jul-14-08 12:29 AM |
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THAT is the point of provocative art..... |
HardWorkingDem |
Jul-14-08 01:06 AM |
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that's it, you're off the deep end...by your standard, anything you class as "art" |
CreekDog |
Jul-14-08 01:12 AM |
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Wow....you like the First Amendment, don't you... |
HardWorkingDem |
Jul-14-08 01:24 AM |
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did i say anything bout legality? |
CreekDog |
Jul-14-08 01:33 AM |
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I understand what you're saying, but the apology will still need to be made. |
thecatburgler |
Jul-14-08 01:15 AM |
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Often times.....accompanying articles do not match the cover... |
HardWorkingDem |
Jul-14-08 01:25 AM |
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What is bothersome is that so many latte liberals ignore the negative effects this "art" could have |
AdHocSolver |
Jul-14-08 02:37 PM |
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It's a satire on the IMAGE some are trying to create of them |
MonkeyFunk |
Jul-14-08 01:07 AM |
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it could appear in total seriousness on the cover of American Spectator |
CreekDog |
Jul-14-08 01:10 AM |
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If you want to argue over the artistic merits of it, go ahead |
MonkeyFunk |
Jul-14-08 01:15 AM |
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The political arguments are totally valid. It's the latte liberals who are stupid for not getting it |
AdHocSolver |
Jul-14-08 01:50 PM |
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who are the protagonists of this piece |
johnnydrama |
Jul-14-08 06:18 AM |
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If shoulder-length hair were placed on a (short-haired) white male politician |
last_texas_dem |
Jul-14-08 01:14 AM |
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I wish all DUers could see some of the racist emails about Obama that I have |
Frances |
Jul-14-08 12:29 AM |
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make sure you Reply to All and BLAST the senders, Frances |
Skittles |
Jul-14-08 12:59 AM |
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Most come from a relative |
Frances |
Jul-14-08 09:31 AM |
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Don't trip. Most people are with you. |
redstate_democrat |
Jul-14-08 12:20 AM |
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i know most of us agree |
CreekDog |
Jul-14-08 12:22 AM |
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I'm a subscriber, and I'm outraged. No mocking from me. nt |
DeepModem Mom |
Jul-14-08 12:27 AM |
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thanks for saying :) |
CreekDog |
Jul-14-08 12:45 AM |
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Perhaps those who dislike the New Yorker cover should refrain from claiming |
last_texas_dem |
Jul-14-08 12:29 AM |
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There is a fine line between clever satire and mean-spirited caricature. |
AdHocSolver |
Jul-14-08 02:42 PM |
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very nicely said- |
Bluerthanblue |
Jul-14-08 12:30 AM |
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The cover is the following |
Jed Dilligan |
Jul-14-08 12:32 AM |
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I'll bet you have never read the New Yorker in your life. |
The_Casual_Observer |
Jul-14-08 12:37 AM |
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why can't you believe that someone has read the New Yorker regularly |
CreekDog |
Jul-14-08 12:41 AM |
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Impossible |
The_Casual_Observer |
Jul-14-08 12:41 AM |
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so one has to be stupid to be offended? |
CreekDog |
Jul-14-08 12:49 AM |
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I agree with the OP and I'm a subscriber. |
AZBlue |
Jul-14-08 12:45 AM |
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The true sin of most satire deemed "offensive" is that it's just not funny enough... |
Youphemism |
Jul-14-08 12:37 AM |
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Not masturbating, losing his virginity to his mother |
JVS |
Jul-14-08 12:46 AM |
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No, his mom passed out. He had to finish all by himself... |
Youphemism |
Jul-14-08 12:53 AM |
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Except that, |
polmaven |
Jul-14-08 10:01 AM |
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I'm with ya there. Some people here are being really nasty about it. |
Blondiegrrl |
Jul-14-08 12:40 AM |
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4. that I don't recognize (attempted) satire |
Skittles |
Jul-14-08 12:57 AM |
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excellent point. |
CreekDog |
Jul-14-08 01:00 AM |
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thanks |
Skittles |
Jul-14-08 01:31 AM |
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count me as another vote for: get it, don't like it |
CreekDog |
Jul-14-08 01:37 AM |
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Interesting how many "free-speechers" here are telling others to STHU about not liking this cover. |
WinkyDink |
Jul-14-08 05:47 AM |
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But you are just reacting like those muslims to the Mohammad cartoon! |
thewiseguy |
Jul-14-08 09:34 AM |
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You're good people CreekDog |
DesertedRose |
Jul-14-08 09:34 AM |
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Well, |
Goblinmonger |
Jul-14-08 09:40 AM |
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