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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:12 PM
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87. The Constitution is the PRODUCT of negotiation
I swear the average IQ of DU has dropped about 50 points in the last six months.
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  -This FISA vote may prove to be a strategic mistake for nadinbrzezinski  Jul-09-08 09:29 PM   #0 
  - It is still up in the air whether or not I will donate to Obama going forward. We'll see.  GarbagemanLB   Jul-09-08 09:30 PM   #1 
  - I gave some money, but that's it  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 09:32 PM   #2 
  - You should leave DU while you are at it since we are here to SUPPORT our nominee, not cut him down.  Bonobo   Jul-09-08 09:34 PM   #5 
  - There is NO rule on DU that says you must give candidates money.  DemItAllAnyway   Jul-09-08 09:38 PM   #8 
  - I am not cutting him down  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 09:38 PM   #9 
  - You weren't giving him any money anyway!  skooooo   Jul-09-08 09:42 PM   #13 
  - What's that convention thingy for again?  LVjinx   Jul-09-08 10:08 PM   #23 
  - I just wish our Dems would show some BACKBONE...  calimary   Jul-10-08 11:30 AM   #83 
  - I'll be anxiously awaiting for you to announce your decision.  skooooo   Jul-09-08 09:33 PM   #4 
  - Sorry if I take issue with shitting on the Constitution and the 'Change' candidate doing NOTHING.  GarbagemanLB   Jul-09-08 09:37 PM   #7 
  - The amount of hyperbole I've seen on DU about this bill is  woolldog   Jul-09-08 10:06 PM   #21 
  - skoooo, thought you'd never get here.  NYC_SKP   Jul-09-08 10:11 PM   #27 
     - Skoo is on ignore, so you know  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 10:13 PM   #31 
        - Ah, ignore, the cyber version of "na na na na na na...I can't hear you" nt  NYC_SKP   Jul-09-08 10:15 PM   #33 
           - If you say so  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 10:17 PM   #36 
  - Given that you were such a huge partisan in the primaries  ruggerson   Jul-09-08 10:29 PM   #50 
     - Yeah, me too  democrattotheend   Jul-10-08 09:43 AM   #81 
  - I'm not ready to give any more $ for awhile...  liberalmuse   Jul-09-08 09:33 PM   #3 
  - I closed my wallet too  Larkspur   Jul-09-08 09:37 PM   #6 
  - I just posted essentially the same thing.  Finnfan   Jul-09-08 09:39 PM   #10 
  - I don't know why I can't muster up the appropriate level of outrage  Truth Hurts A Lot   Jul-09-08 09:40 PM   #11 
  - The end goal is the reestablishment of the Republic  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 09:43 PM   #14 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-09-08 09:40 PM   #12 
  - These weeks are but a microsecond to be lost in the centuries of American History  NYC_SKP   Jul-09-08 09:54 PM   #15 
  - Sorry, my candidate donation for the month just went to the ACLU  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 09:56 PM   #16 
  - He is LESS likely to defeat McCain after this vote. nt  Finnfan   Jul-09-08 09:57 PM   #17 
  - Even if this was some sort of compromise...  frog92969   Jul-09-08 10:44 PM   #58 
  - Maybe it's time to start supporting and working for third-party candidates.  salguine   Jul-09-08 10:02 PM   #18 
  - Harry Truman said it best:  PurityOfEssence   Jul-09-08 10:03 PM   #19 
  - 'xactly, and that is the kind of strategic mistake we just saw  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 10:08 PM   #22 
  - Big, big mistake  frog92969   Jul-09-08 10:06 PM   #20 
  - Yep, or the imperial party accusaton and empires will do what  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 10:09 PM   #25 
     - And we know what empires do,  frog92969   Jul-09-08 10:27 PM   #46 
        - I know and it is on its way to falling apart anyway  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 10:30 PM   #51 
  - "I don't negotiate the Constitution"  Kristi1696   Jul-09-08 10:09 PM   #24 
  - Did I say I will not voote for him?  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 10:12 PM   #28 
     - We expect you to voote for him.  NYC_SKP   Jul-09-08 10:14 PM   #32 
        - So not giving money is a problem for you  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 10:16 PM   #35 
           - No, it's the "I'm mad and not going to donate" post that is neg energy, man.  NYC_SKP   Jul-09-08 10:20 PM   #38 
           - I am sorry for taking you out of your happy place  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 10:22 PM   #40 
           - I'm just looking to Jan 09 and beyond.  NYC_SKP   Jul-09-08 10:31 PM   #54 
              - Sorry after the debacle of 2006 there is no more hope  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 10:34 PM   #56 
           - Obama's VOTE took me out of MY happy place  dbaker41   Jul-10-08 01:34 PM   #85 
           - No, your publicly bitching and moaning about our candidate...  Kristi1696   Jul-09-08 10:20 PM   #39 
              - I am a former donor, and I was considering volunteering  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 10:25 PM   #42 
              - Not people who have volunteered in poor communities.  Kristi1696   Jul-09-08 10:27 PM   #45 
                 - Ah the pitty card...  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 10:29 PM   #49 
                    - Hell yes, the people in my neighborhood deserve pity.  Kristi1696   Jul-09-08 11:00 PM   #61 
                    - Poor people are such whiners, aren't they Mr. Gramm? nt  thecatburgler   Jul-10-08 06:02 PM   #90 
              - Oh give me a break.  CrispyQGirl   Jul-10-08 05:55 PM   #88 
  - The FISA bill sucked ass, but it was a brilliant strategic move for Obama.  AtomicKitten   Jul-09-08 10:10 PM   #26 
  - hate to disagree with you  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 10:12 PM   #29 
     - the bill was going to pass anyway - by a long shot  AtomicKitten   Jul-09-08 11:03 PM   #63 
        - I can bet the mud will go anyways  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 11:20 PM   #66 
        - It's time the dems took the "soft on terror" meme & ram it down the repubs throats.  CrispyQGirl   Jul-10-08 06:04 PM   #91 
  - Harry Truman said it best:  PurityOfEssence   Jul-09-08 10:13 PM   #30 
  - maybe this issue has brought education, but the bill is better than the priginal as stop gap  MarjorieG   Jul-09-08 10:15 PM   #34 
  - I'm worn out.  NattPang   Jul-09-08 10:17 PM   #37 
  - Been fighting agaiunst this erosion since 2001  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 10:26 PM   #43 
     - No, it means  NattPang   Jul-09-08 10:29 PM   #48 
        - Let me try to 'splain this to you  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 10:33 PM   #55 
           - It isn't about the 20 percent  NattPang   Jul-09-08 10:48 PM   #59 
              - Sorry but the OTHER GUYS are winning the war  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 11:19 PM   #65 
  - Yawn  HughMoran   Jul-09-08 10:22 PM   #41 
  - I know that silly stupid bill of rights makes me predictable  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 10:27 PM   #44 
     - Slam, blam hate bitter  HughMoran   Jul-09-08 10:31 PM   #53 
        - No, not surprised, try OUTRAGED  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 10:35 PM   #57 
           - Yes, I am too - but I'm not whining out loud about it  HughMoran   Jul-09-08 10:49 PM   #60 
              - Try this, lines in sand  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 11:23 PM   #69 
  - Keep Crying. It gives you so much credibility.  berni_mccoy   Jul-09-08 10:28 PM   #47 
  - Ah yes from another lover of the consittuion  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 10:30 PM   #52 
  - I'm actually trying to figure out what constitutional rights you guys are fighting for?!  vaberella   Jul-09-08 11:03 PM   #62 
  - Try readying the fourth ammendment  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 11:21 PM   #68 
  - Waaah. Waaah. Must Not Criticize Other Senators. Must Not Criticize McCain.  slinkerwink   Jul-09-08 11:04 PM   #64 
  - Who didn't even vote  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-09-08 11:20 PM   #67 
  - Who knows  liberacci   Jul-09-08 11:36 PM   #70 
  - You're a brave man to post all of this. I happen to agree with you.  BigBearJohn   Jul-10-08 03:52 AM   #71 
  - It's "brave" to post the same shit everyone else does? The Obamabashers are in the majority here.  Occam Bandage   Jul-10-08 03:55 AM   #72 
     - It is NOT the same SHIT. Standing FOR the constitution is not SHIT  BigBearJohn   Jul-10-08 04:01 AM   #73 
     - Great. Nobody here is standing against the Constitution.  Occam Bandage   Jul-10-08 04:23 AM   #75 
     - When did wanting to protect the 4th Amendment turn into Obama bashing????????? nt  Selatius   Jul-10-08 04:05 AM   #74 
        - When out of 100 Senators and 435 Representatives, the Junior Senator from IL became the target  Occam Bandage   Jul-10-08 04:23 AM   #76 
        - Well, I can personally assure you that I targeted all of Congress. As far as Obama? Well...  Selatius   Jul-10-08 04:41 AM   #77 
        - I dunno. I read somewhere that he was the presidential nominee  FredfromSpace   Jul-10-08 08:02 AM   #78 
        - when it became our bitch doing it  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-10-08 11:22 AM   #82 
  - I agree full heartedly. The constitution is NOT up for negotiation!  mod mom   Jul-10-08 08:07 AM   #79 
  - Fuck hoover and fuck everyone who would negotiate the Constitution for they truly are the  indepat   Jul-10-08 09:38 AM   #80 
  - They sold out to fear, and if enough people are sick of fear it could backfire.  polichick   Jul-10-08 11:32 AM   #84 
  - What if we have ANOTHER STOLEN ELECTION then the Dems have given more power to the neocons.  mod mom   Jul-10-08 04:00 PM   #86 
  - The Constitution is the PRODUCT of negotiation  Jeff In Milwaukee   Jul-10-08 04:12 PM   #87 
  - You should listen to Feingold and support Obama. That's what he's doing.  Alexander   Jul-10-08 06:00 PM   #89 
  - You don't negotiate the Constution huh?  cbc5g   Jul-10-08 06:11 PM   #92 
  - I'm glad someone negotiated the Constitution  Duder   Jul-10-08 06:15 PM   #93 

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