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Mon Jun-30-08 01:28 AM
Response to Reply #47 |
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I was unaware of some of this info.
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| -By July 8 we will all be on board, just like we have been before. |
madfloridian |
Jun-29-08 05:05 PM |
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The focus on this one issue |
woolldog |
Jun-29-08 05:09 PM |
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This post is NOT focusing on FISA. Dear God....please read what I wrote!!!! |
madfloridian |
Jun-29-08 05:10 PM |
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You used the word FISA how many times in your post that had nothing |
woolldog |
Jun-29-08 07:00 PM |
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OMG....this "don't criticize Obama" "don't criticize FISA" is overwrought. |
madfloridian |
Jun-29-08 07:04 PM |
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try to even compliment anyone here lately, and they take it the wrong way, |
poli speak |
Jun-30-08 06:14 PM |
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Good by....not taking any more crap. |
madfloridian |
Jun-29-08 07:04 PM |
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LOL. Now who's the one who can't tolerate dissent? |
woolldog |
Jun-29-08 07:07 PM |
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That was beautiful, the way you made questioning the status quo look like intolerance of dissent. |
OmelasExpat |
Jun-30-08 11:16 AM |
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No. I'm speaking of her/him putting me on ignore b/c I criticized his/her's |
woolldog |
Jun-30-08 11:22 AM |
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So, drawing a line == intolerance. You're getting more clever and artful all the time. |
OmelasExpat |
Jun-30-08 11:41 AM |
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Gee... |
madfloridian |
Jun-30-08 12:27 PM |
#95 |
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They've all been to Room 101. |
Jakes Progress |
Jun-30-08 01:21 PM |
#101 |
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I like your style. |
woolldog |
Jun-30-08 04:22 PM |
#126 |
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Since she has you on ignore |
Gilligan |
Jun-30-08 01:47 PM |
#106 |
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both are false |
Two Americas |
Jun-29-08 07:36 PM |
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To answer your question, yes. |
woolldog |
Jun-29-08 08:16 PM |
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that is honest |
Two Americas |
Jun-29-08 09:17 PM |
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Belief in pink elephants and Trojan Horses is for children. |
OmelasExpat |
Jun-30-08 11:27 AM |
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love that totalitarian point of view. what makes you think he will be |
comradebillyboy |
Jun-30-08 12:10 PM |
#93 |
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You are kidding, right? |
Jakes Progress |
Jun-30-08 01:34 PM |
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You are stretching |
Gilligan |
Jun-30-08 02:02 PM |
#110 |
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Acceptance is a good thing. |
madfloridian |
Jun-29-08 05:15 PM |
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"Louder", I have discovered, is not always greater in number... |
Psyop Samurai |
Jun-29-08 06:24 PM |
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Report: U.S. 'preparing the battlefield' in Iran |
madfloridian |
Jun-29-08 05:19 PM |
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A result of our unflappable alliance with Israel |
hokies4ever |
Jun-29-08 05:33 PM |
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Well said. *crying emoticon* nt |
yadayadayada |
Jun-29-08 05:26 PM |
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FISA vote is wrong *AND* Obama should be elected president. |
Political Heretic |
Jun-29-08 05:31 PM |
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Why the date July 8th? |
tekisui |
Jun-29-08 05:39 PM |
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The date of the vote, I hear. |
madfloridian |
Jun-29-08 05:39 PM |
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i don't know the answer mad. |
mopinko |
Jun-29-08 05:43 PM |
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There is no answer. |
madfloridian |
Jun-29-08 06:43 PM |
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My answer is |
Gilligan |
Jun-30-08 02:07 PM |
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First of all, this issue was not something that was fabricated to "push our buttons". |
bertman |
Jun-30-08 12:23 PM |
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That was always the solution I was looking for. |
Jakes Progress |
Jun-30-08 01:44 PM |
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Excellent points |
Gilligan |
Jun-30-08 02:09 PM |
#114 |
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Great post, MadFloridian. |
BuyingThyme |
Jun-29-08 06:08 PM |
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On the other hand, we are all now free to arm ourselves. |
rug |
Jun-29-08 06:12 PM |
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and that is starting to sound like a very good idea. |
GoldieAZ49 |
Jun-29-08 06:33 PM |
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Political Loyalty is a one way street |
GoldieAZ49 |
Jun-29-08 06:31 PM |
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Nobody is saying to accept anything . |
Kdillard |
Jun-29-08 06:35 PM |
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You are wrong. The mindset here is to hush. |
madfloridian |
Jun-29-08 06:37 PM |
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Wrong. Everything is about accepting. |
Jakes Progress |
Jun-30-08 01:52 PM |
#107 |
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the effect is the same |
Two Americas |
Jun-30-08 07:29 PM |
#139 |
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Third Way and DLC/PPI, for dummies, like me. |
NYC_SKP |
Jun-29-08 07:01 PM |
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The assimilation will be easier this time around. |
madfloridian |
Jun-29-08 07:12 PM |
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You know, I think DUers are very desperate to have a win this time. |
CTyankee |
Jun-29-08 07:53 PM |
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I am not talking about Obama. The bill has already passed. |
madfloridian |
Jun-29-08 08:11 PM |
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I don't know if your last statement is accurate. In a perfect world such things |
CTyankee |
Jun-29-08 08:27 PM |
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So you think we HAD to bring FISA up for a vote? |
madfloridian |
Jun-29-08 08:35 PM |
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Aperfect example of the "world as it is" as Alinsky would say. |
CTyankee |
Jun-30-08 05:52 PM |
#133 |
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FISA could be left alone. |
Jakes Progress |
Jun-30-08 01:55 PM |
#108 |
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yes |
Two Americas |
Jun-29-08 09:27 PM |
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Thanks for your posts in this thread. I appreciate them. |
madfloridian |
Jun-29-08 09:33 PM |
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you have been an inspiration to all of us for a long time |
Two Americas |
Jun-29-08 11:09 PM |
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Well, I am changing my ways. I am SO on board with no criticism |
madfloridian |
Jun-29-08 11:10 PM |
#44 |
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unfortunately it's the wrong lesson they are teaching |
unapatriciated |
Jun-30-08 01:12 AM |
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seconded...hugs to you both |
FarceOfNature |
Jun-30-08 07:54 AM |
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hey farce |
Two Americas |
Jun-30-08 07:32 PM |
#140 |
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you posted intelligently about FISA - I never assumed you were "attacking Obama" |
crankychatter |
Jun-29-08 08:56 PM |
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I don't think I said that. I do think the Dems will go along with Iran |
madfloridian |
Jun-29-08 09:08 PM |
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I could not agree more |
Eyes_wide_ open |
Jun-30-08 12:33 AM |
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They are successful with me. This is my last post here critical of Dems. |
madfloridian |
Jun-30-08 12:37 AM |
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Dupe post |
madfloridian |
Jun-30-08 12:37 AM |
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I meant we have to speak up on things like that. Even if we fail. |
madfloridian |
Jun-29-08 10:19 PM |
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Well, I don't want you to shut up |
dmr |
Jun-30-08 01:47 AM |
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K&R |
bvar22 |
Jun-29-08 09:50 PM |
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I'm afraid so. |
Lugnut |
Jun-30-08 09:19 AM |
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We want hope, not change |
mdmc |
Jun-30-08 10:10 AM |
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Please make the quote and picture |
Jakes Progress |
Jun-30-08 02:00 PM |
#109 |
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as a fellow floridian |
swampg8r |
Jun-29-08 10:28 PM |
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No, I know when it is time to quit. Others can do it or not. |
madfloridian |
Jun-29-08 10:32 PM |
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ironically FISA is a response to Iranian policies in the 70s |
swampg8r |
Jun-29-08 11:01 PM |
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Nothing to do with Iran. Everything to do with trying to curb abuse of political power. From wiki |
iconicgnom |
Jun-30-08 07:19 AM |
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Thanks. I hope someone will post Greenwald's stuff here at DU now... |
madfloridian |
Jun-30-08 10:07 AM |
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This is one of the problems. |
Jakes Progress |
Jun-30-08 02:05 PM |
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googled shoulder obama, just for ya! |
themartyred |
Jun-30-08 12:57 AM |
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Yes, I can sure see how shielding telecoms from civil suits is exactly the same as war with Iran. |
Occam Bandage |
Jun-29-08 11:02 PM |
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Is that all you got from the last 8 years of caving? |
madfloridian |
Jun-29-08 11:05 PM |
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I also got a great Cave-In '07 T-shirt, too. |
Occam Bandage |
Jun-29-08 11:29 PM |
#46 |
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See post 111 for a description of what is wrong |
Jakes Progress |
Jun-30-08 02:07 PM |
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but no one is going to accept a draft |
bambino |
Jun-29-08 11:12 PM |
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private armies |
Two Americas |
Jun-29-08 11:36 PM |
#47 |
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Please link TA |
balantz |
Jun-30-08 01:28 AM |
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hey balantz |
Two Americas |
Jun-30-08 02:01 AM |
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This is not good. |
balantz |
Jun-30-08 08:33 AM |
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how it ties in |
Two Americas |
Jun-30-08 01:38 PM |
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You are absolutely right. |
balantz |
Jun-30-08 02:59 PM |
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all pieces to the puzzle |
Two Americas |
Jun-30-08 03:48 PM |
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I'm with you. |
balantz |
Jun-30-08 03:58 PM |
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immigrants in the military |
Two Americas |
Jun-30-08 02:14 AM |
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medical neglect |
Two Americas |
Jun-30-08 02:24 AM |
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Holy Crap! |
14thColony |
Jun-30-08 04:12 PM |
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worse here and now |
Two Americas |
Jun-30-08 04:33 PM |
#127 |
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abuse of minors in detention |
Two Americas |
Jun-30-08 02:52 AM |
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children imprisoned |
Two Americas |
Jun-30-08 02:58 AM |
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the Pentagon and immigrants |
Two Americas |
Jun-30-08 03:42 AM |
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for-profit detention industry |
Two Americas |
Jun-30-08 03:47 AM |
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The National Network for Immigrant and Refugee Rights Report |
Two Americas |
Jun-30-08 04:10 AM |
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After looking at one of your links here |
balantz |
Jun-30-08 08:46 AM |
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the truth |
Two Americas |
Jun-30-08 01:11 PM |
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Not sure what you mean that there is no war, except that truly it is an illegal occupation. |
balantz |
Jun-30-08 03:11 PM |
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clarification |
Two Americas |
Jun-30-08 03:35 PM |
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I'm with you TA. I understand who is US and who is THEM. |
balantz |
Jun-30-08 03:52 PM |
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words will beat them |
Two Americas |
Jun-30-08 04:38 PM |
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Freedom vs. Tyranny |
balantz |
Jun-30-08 05:47 PM |
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one more thing my friend |
Two Americas |
Jun-30-08 05:12 PM |
#129 |
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Agreed |
balantz |
Jun-30-08 06:05 PM |
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perhaps our congressmen don't see the urgency? |
bambino |
Jun-30-08 05:15 PM |
#130 |
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conspiracy of silence |
Two Americas |
Jun-30-08 06:51 PM |
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But is it fair to blame them for selling out to the corporations and financiers? n/t |
balantz |
Jun-30-08 07:05 PM |
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maybe |
Two Americas |
Jun-30-08 07:39 PM |
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We really need to challenge them |
balantz |
Jun-30-08 09:02 PM |
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Just to clarify....this is my last post about FISA or criticizing Democrats |
madfloridian |
Jun-29-08 11:56 PM |
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Someone else may want to post about Sy Hersh. |
madfloridian |
Jun-30-08 12:07 AM |
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Iran is my Rubicon |
DFW |
Jun-30-08 12:49 AM |
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"a govt that takes away the privacy of a man will control him completely" |
themartyred |
Jun-30-08 12:54 AM |
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We have no choice but to accept it when they stick it to us again and again. |
balantz |
Jun-30-08 12:58 AM |
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I think that I'll boost this thread... |
RNdaSilva |
Jun-30-08 01:30 AM |
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When our own Democratic forum is silent....then I do worry. |
madfloridian |
Jun-30-08 09:25 AM |
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Mad, remember acceptance goes with compassion. |
RTBerry |
Jun-30-08 05:01 AM |
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But Socrates and Jesus were killed by the political powers of their time |
Zodiak Ironfist |
Jul-01-08 02:03 AM |
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And our Dear Leader will put our feeble protests down the memory hole. |
kohodog |
Jun-30-08 06:41 AM |
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The Slippery Slope is Fun! Weeeeee! |
The Political Jerk |
Jun-30-08 09:34 AM |
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The difference this election is some are terrified that we may lose this, critique is fine but if we |
barack the house |
Jun-30-08 09:35 AM |
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YES, we will. I mean...I will criticize no longer. Do you want that in blood? |
madfloridian |
Jun-30-08 09:37 AM |
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That would perfectly adequate but only if you have run out of ink. =) |
barack the house |
Jun-30-08 09:47 AM |
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Cute....silence is golden. |
madfloridian |
Jun-30-08 09:51 AM |
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Why not the critique, if we end up voting for Obama in the end? |
OmelasExpat |
Jun-30-08 11:54 AM |
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Go Democrats! |
mdmc |
Jun-30-08 09:55 AM |
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K&R n/t |
ms liberty |
Jun-30-08 10:40 AM |
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Martin Luther King: "Silence is betrayal." |
Straight Shooter |
Jun-30-08 10:40 AM |
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"And we will accept it because we have to do so. " |
redqueen |
Jun-30-08 10:52 AM |
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I think we should move on. |
Elrond Hubbard |
Jun-30-08 12:37 PM |
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I did. I said I would not post anything else bad about Democrats. |
madfloridian |
Jun-30-08 12:54 PM |
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I've never tried to say we shouldn't criticize Obama. |
Elrond Hubbard |
Jun-30-08 12:58 PM |
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Don't go changin' MF! |
dailykoff |
Jun-30-08 01:01 PM |
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k&r |
Swamp Rat |
Jun-30-08 01:46 PM |
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Great post MF. I just cannot believe that on a Democratic Board |
saracat |
Jun-30-08 02:32 PM |
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oh I saw it coming during the primaries |
Skittles |
Jul-01-08 01:38 AM |
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With you on this one |
Bluenorthwest |
Jun-30-08 02:50 PM |
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so true and so sad. n/t |
dana_b |
Jun-30-08 03:04 PM |
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Mad, have you truly lost hope? |
SidneyCarton |
Jun-30-08 03:39 PM |
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agreed |
Two Americas |
Jun-30-08 07:10 PM |
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True enough, |
SidneyCarton |
Jun-30-08 10:09 PM |
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kick nt |
maryf |
Jun-30-08 10:47 PM |
#148 |
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No Mad. We won't all be on board. The same ones who foresaw and fought |
Catherina |
Jun-30-08 05:49 PM |
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As we need yours. |
iconicgnom |
Jun-30-08 09:26 PM |
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That was very kind. Thank you iconicgnom |
Catherina |
Jul-01-08 01:33 AM |
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I'm sure it gets hard to take the swipes and neglects madfloridian. |
balantz |
Jun-30-08 09:09 PM |
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Did you catch Keith Olbermann's Special Comment tonight? |
RNdaSilva |
Jun-30-08 09:18 PM |
#144 |
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All guns inward! |
Damian the LHP |
Jun-30-08 09:47 PM |
#146 |
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