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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 02:48 AM
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7. I hope not, Bill's politics led Democratic voters to stay home in 1994 and we lost the congress.
Edited on Sat Jun-28-08 02:49 AM by John Q. Citizen
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  -Is Obama's FISA vote his Clinton Sister Souljah moment? HardWorkingDem  Jun-28-08 01:26 AM   #0 
  - I don't think so.  Ashy Larry   Jun-28-08 01:48 AM   #1 
  - Given the circumstances, he should easily be able to justify to the public  mrone2   Jun-28-08 07:48 AM   #12 
  - Well, he sided with Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas twice this week, too.  jobycom   Jun-28-08 02:25 AM   #2 
  - If he were to embrace the gas tax holiday, the right couldn't attack him for that. Why didn't he?  John Q. Citizen   Jun-28-08 02:31 AM   #3 
  - He should have. It was decent idea. nt  jobycom   Jun-28-08 02:37 AM   #4 
     - I didn't realize you were basing positions on the merit of the position, only on the political  John Q. Citizen   Jun-28-08 02:46 AM   #6 
        - I didn't answer your first question because it had nothing to do with what I said.  jobycom   Jun-28-08 02:59 AM   #9 
           - self-del-nt  4themind   Jun-28-08 07:59 AM   #15 
  - Well said.  MookieWilson   Jun-28-08 07:50 AM   #14 
  - And I don't mean anything bad by it, just wondering if he is...  HardWorkingDem   Jun-28-08 02:41 AM   #5 
  - I hope not, Bill's politics led Democratic voters to stay home in 1994 and we lost the congress.  John Q. Citizen   Jun-28-08 02:48 AM   #7 
     - That first happened in 1994  depakid   Jun-28-08 02:51 AM   #8 
     - Clinton tried to have a progressive presidency and conservative Dems like -  MookieWilson   Jun-28-08 07:49 AM   #13 
        - Repo turnout was about the same as in 1990. NAFTA depressed Dem turnout.  John Q. Citizen   Jun-28-08 08:44 AM   #16 
           - Dems didn't stay home because of Clinton, they stayed because Congress turned on Clinton  jobycom   Jun-28-08 10:23 AM   #18 
           - Clinton's problem with health care started when he kicked out the grass roots, congress, the care  John Q. Citizen   Jun-28-08 11:05 AM   #20 
              - Health Care was defeated by the insurance companies  jobycom   Jun-28-08 11:16 AM   #21 
                 - I'm glad the country as a whole isn't Texas. Who was there to defend Clinton plan?  John Q. Citizen   Jun-28-08 11:53 AM   #22 
                 - "Harry and Louise" were brought to you by health insurance companies. nt  MookieWilson   Jun-28-08 08:08 PM   #32 
           - That makes no sense. nt  MookieWilson   Jun-28-08 08:07 PM   #31 
  - and NAFTA, and gun ownership, and campaign finance...  MookieWilson   Jun-28-08 07:26 AM   #10 
  - whatever it is, it sure makes me think politicians are bullshit for the most part  natrat   Jun-28-08 07:37 AM   #11 
  - I thought L'Affaire McClurkin was his Sister Souljah moment.  QC   Jun-28-08 08:47 AM   #17 
  - In order for it to be a Sister Souljah moment, people beyond the netroots need to notice.  Occam Bandage   Jun-29-08 12:00 AM   #37 
  - No, it's his Lieberman kiss moment.  dailykoff   Jun-28-08 10:26 AM   #19 
  - Hmm? Did you think the civil suits would have exposed The Crimes?  Occam Bandage   Jun-29-08 12:06 AM   #38 
  - What "FISA vote"? Last I heard there hasn't been a Senate vote on the FISA bill yet.  Seabiscuit   Jun-28-08 11:58 AM   #23 
  - 80 senators voted for cloture  dailykoff   Jun-28-08 12:00 PM   #24 
     - So how did Obama vote on cloture, and how does that relate to the OP?  Seabiscuit   Jun-28-08 11:33 PM   #33 
        - He was one of four who didn't vote.  dailykoff   Jun-28-08 11:58 PM   #34 
           - Thanks for filling me in.  Seabiscuit   Jun-29-08 12:00 AM   #36 
  - Wow, is it July already? I guess I needed that nap a LOT...  blondeatlast   Jun-28-08 12:01 PM   #25 
  - What is a Sister Souljah moment?  skooooo   Jun-28-08 12:03 PM   #26 
  - Many consider it....  HardWorkingDem   Jun-28-08 02:38 PM   #28 
     - Thanks..  skooooo   Jun-28-08 06:10 PM   #29 
  - Any politician who would base his campaign on  sufrommich   Jun-28-08 12:04 PM   #27 
  - No. Not this. He knows that if he votes against it the repukes will use it  Kahuna   Jun-28-08 06:23 PM   #30 
  - In that both were justified actions that enraged many liberals, yeah.  Occam Bandage   Jun-28-08 11:59 PM   #35 
 

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