John Q. Citizen
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Sat Jun-28-08 02:48 AM
Response to Reply #5 |
| 7. I hope not, Bill's politics led Democratic voters to stay home in 1994 and we lost the congress. |
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Edited on Sat Jun-28-08 02:49 AM by John Q. Citizen
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| -Is Obama's FISA vote his Clinton Sister Souljah moment? |
HardWorkingDem |
Jun-28-08 01:26 AM |
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I don't think so. |
Ashy Larry |
Jun-28-08 01:48 AM |
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Given the circumstances, he should easily be able to justify to the public |
mrone2 |
Jun-28-08 07:48 AM |
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Well, he sided with Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas twice this week, too. |
jobycom |
Jun-28-08 02:25 AM |
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If he were to embrace the gas tax holiday, the right couldn't attack him for that. Why didn't he? |
John Q. Citizen |
Jun-28-08 02:31 AM |
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He should have. It was decent idea. nt |
jobycom |
Jun-28-08 02:37 AM |
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I didn't realize you were basing positions on the merit of the position, only on the political |
John Q. Citizen |
Jun-28-08 02:46 AM |
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I didn't answer your first question because it had nothing to do with what I said. |
jobycom |
Jun-28-08 02:59 AM |
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self-del-nt |
4themind |
Jun-28-08 07:59 AM |
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Well said. |
MookieWilson |
Jun-28-08 07:50 AM |
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And I don't mean anything bad by it, just wondering if he is... |
HardWorkingDem |
Jun-28-08 02:41 AM |
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I hope not, Bill's politics led Democratic voters to stay home in 1994 and we lost the congress. |
John Q. Citizen |
Jun-28-08 02:48 AM |
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That first happened in 1994 |
depakid |
Jun-28-08 02:51 AM |
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Clinton tried to have a progressive presidency and conservative Dems like - |
MookieWilson |
Jun-28-08 07:49 AM |
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Repo turnout was about the same as in 1990. NAFTA depressed Dem turnout. |
John Q. Citizen |
Jun-28-08 08:44 AM |
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Dems didn't stay home because of Clinton, they stayed because Congress turned on Clinton |
jobycom |
Jun-28-08 10:23 AM |
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Clinton's problem with health care started when he kicked out the grass roots, congress, the care |
John Q. Citizen |
Jun-28-08 11:05 AM |
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Health Care was defeated by the insurance companies |
jobycom |
Jun-28-08 11:16 AM |
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I'm glad the country as a whole isn't Texas. Who was there to defend Clinton plan? |
John Q. Citizen |
Jun-28-08 11:53 AM |
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"Harry and Louise" were brought to you by health insurance companies. nt |
MookieWilson |
Jun-28-08 08:08 PM |
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That makes no sense. nt |
MookieWilson |
Jun-28-08 08:07 PM |
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and NAFTA, and gun ownership, and campaign finance... |
MookieWilson |
Jun-28-08 07:26 AM |
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whatever it is, it sure makes me think politicians are bullshit for the most part |
natrat |
Jun-28-08 07:37 AM |
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I thought L'Affaire McClurkin was his Sister Souljah moment. |
QC |
Jun-28-08 08:47 AM |
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In order for it to be a Sister Souljah moment, people beyond the netroots need to notice. |
Occam Bandage |
Jun-29-08 12:00 AM |
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No, it's his Lieberman kiss moment. |
dailykoff |
Jun-28-08 10:26 AM |
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Hmm? Did you think the civil suits would have exposed The Crimes? |
Occam Bandage |
Jun-29-08 12:06 AM |
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What "FISA vote"? Last I heard there hasn't been a Senate vote on the FISA bill yet. |
Seabiscuit |
Jun-28-08 11:58 AM |
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80 senators voted for cloture |
dailykoff |
Jun-28-08 12:00 PM |
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So how did Obama vote on cloture, and how does that relate to the OP? |
Seabiscuit |
Jun-28-08 11:33 PM |
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He was one of four who didn't vote. |
dailykoff |
Jun-28-08 11:58 PM |
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Thanks for filling me in. |
Seabiscuit |
Jun-29-08 12:00 AM |
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Wow, is it July already? I guess I needed that nap a LOT... |
blondeatlast |
Jun-28-08 12:01 PM |
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What is a Sister Souljah moment? |
skooooo |
Jun-28-08 12:03 PM |
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Many consider it.... |
HardWorkingDem |
Jun-28-08 02:38 PM |
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Thanks.. |
skooooo |
Jun-28-08 06:10 PM |
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Any politician who would base his campaign on |
sufrommich |
Jun-28-08 12:04 PM |
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No. Not this. He knows that if he votes against it the repukes will use it |
Kahuna |
Jun-28-08 06:23 PM |
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In that both were justified actions that enraged many liberals, yeah. |
Occam Bandage |
Jun-28-08 11:59 PM |
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