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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 02:13 PM
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50. Wait a minute, weren't all or most of those provisions in the original
FISA Bill?

Am I missing something? The original intent of Republicans for this bill was to weaken FISA. Because this bill reaffirms the original FISA court proceedings it looks to me like they failed. :shrug:
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  -Tomorrow's FISA vote means government can keep spying even if court says no. madfloridian  Jun-24-08 12:13 PM   #0 
  - I don't know WTF these idjits are doing, unless there was a need  cliffordu   Jun-24-08 12:16 PM   #1 
  - But it's time for a summer vacation.  kentuck   Jun-24-08 12:18 PM   #2 
  - I'm suprised by the amount of 'democrats' that don't see this as a big deal.  clevbot   Jun-24-08 12:19 PM   #3 
  - It is a big deal.  madfloridian   Jun-24-08 12:38 PM   #4 
     - If they're not a part of the "solution"  mrone2   Jun-24-08 12:46 PM   #5 
     - Data-mining.  PassingFair   Jun-24-08 06:59 PM   #27 
        - I had not looked at it that way.  madfloridian   Jun-24-08 10:36 PM   #33 
           - Everything is run through their filter.  PassingFair   Jun-25-08 07:36 AM   #36 
  - According to the majority here  Gilligan   Jun-24-08 12:52 PM   #6 
  - Our military fights to preserve the rights our Congress is giving away  madfloridian   Jun-24-08 12:53 PM   #7 
  - There is simply NO NEED for this bill.  sourmilk   Jun-24-08 12:59 PM   #8 
  - But But...they just made it legal to do it. And said it would stop them from doing it.  madfloridian   Jun-24-08 01:01 PM   #9 
  - I guess this point is so true that it has been overlooked.  midnight   Jun-24-08 01:19 PM   #14 
  - Has there been any coverage of this at all on TV news?  Marie26   Jun-24-08 01:03 PM   #10 
  - It's too complicated for them to understand.  madfloridian   Jun-24-08 01:05 PM   #11 
  - What is the Democratic Presidential Candidate doing to  midnight   Jun-24-08 01:18 PM   #12 
  - He does not have to come out  Gilligan   Jun-24-08 01:21 PM   #15 
  - Why is this even allowed to come up for a vote? More Proof that we need new leaders in the Senate  BrentTaylor   Jun-24-08 01:19 PM   #13 
  - If the elites in our government want warrantless searches, and most of the American people want it  rudy23   Jun-24-08 01:37 PM   #16 
  - Could you show me a poll saying that about the American people?  madfloridian   Jun-24-08 01:41 PM   #17 
  - I think it's going to mean even more than that.  gkhouston   Jun-24-08 01:42 PM   #18 
  - They will all get away with all of the evils our country has done the last 8 years.  madfloridian   Jun-24-08 02:26 PM   #20 
  - It's ok if Democrats do it to us.  madfloridian   Jun-24-08 02:13 PM   #19 
  - Thanks K&R ! n/t  slipslidingaway   Jun-24-08 02:36 PM   #21 
  - Greenwald - The New Republic syndrome  slipslidingaway   Jun-24-08 02:46 PM   #22 
  - Good name for the syndrome.  madfloridian   Jun-26-08 01:01 AM   #37 
     - Yes and thanks for all the FISA threads...  slipslidingaway   Jun-26-08 12:12 PM   #44 
  - Question Obama's motives....listen to what his advisor said.  madfloridian   Jun-24-08 02:51 PM   #23 
  - They are all falling in line.  madfloridian   Jun-24-08 03:06 PM   #24 
  - Kit Bond: "the White House got a better deal than even they had hoped to get.  madfloridian   Jun-24-08 04:52 PM   #25 
  - I think you are right about the Telco immunity.  dailykoff   Jun-24-08 06:57 PM   #26 
  - Dems who flipped on FISA get more cash from telecoms.  madfloridian   Jun-24-08 07:00 PM   #28 
  - For $8,359???  Marie26   Jun-24-08 07:07 PM   #29 
  - Well, most here sound ok with it.  madfloridian   Jun-24-08 08:14 PM   #30 
     - I don't think that's true.  Marie26   Jun-24-08 08:56 PM   #31 
        - I see that the post advocating not fighting back....  madfloridian   Jun-24-08 09:05 PM   #32 
           - You are looking too deeply into hoakie DU statistics  Zodiak Ironfist   Jun-24-08 11:30 PM   #35 
  - I think it has more to do with preventing the pending lawsuits from going to trial  mrone2   Jun-26-08 12:25 PM   #46 
  - K&R  latebloomer   Jun-24-08 10:59 PM   #34 
  - * l *  Sees Clearly   Jun-26-08 07:58 AM   #38 
  - Once routed overseas, spying on Dems is perfectly legal!!  L. Coyote   Jun-26-08 08:13 AM   #39 
  - Rather than listen to our concerns,  Jakes Progress   Jun-26-08 08:25 AM   #40 
  - "we on the internet" is most of the population!! Speak for yourself,  L. Coyote   Jun-26-08 08:50 AM   #42 
     - I was speaking in agreement with your analysis.  Jakes Progress   Jun-26-08 12:23 PM   #45 
  - Good point about routing overseas to bypass laws...More from Klein  madfloridian   Jun-29-08 01:51 PM   #49 
  - Here is a Slate column  Jakes Progress   Jun-26-08 08:47 AM   #41 
  - That is exactly why I don't call Bill Nelson anymore.  madfloridian   Jun-28-08 11:35 AM   #48 
  - Too late to recommend. Thanks MF n/t  Catherina   Jun-26-08 09:11 AM   #43 
  - FISA is a serious bill. It is gutting the 4th amendment.  madfloridian   Jun-27-08 09:57 PM   #47 
  - Wait a minute, weren't all or most of those provisions in the original  johnaries   Jun-29-08 02:13 PM   #50 

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