karynnj
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Tue Jun-24-08 02:06 PM
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| 36. The reason many deny there was torture at Gitmo or Abu Graib |
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No country wants to say they totured. This in fact may be proof that torture is wrong at a very basic level.
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| -McCain's Vietnamese Jailer says he was never tortured |
Number23 |
Jun-24-08 04:59 AM |
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Sorry Mr. Duyet, our pilots were most certainly tortured in the Hanoi Hilton. |
Nickster |
Jun-24-08 05:04 AM |
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I'm figuring Duyet is using the new and improved definition of torture |
IWantAnyDem |
Jun-24-08 05:15 AM |
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Ahhh, excellent point. Thanks for the clarification. I have such a pre-9/11 mindset. |
Nickster |
Jun-24-08 05:24 AM |
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This is not only completely wacky . . . |
MrModerate |
Jun-24-08 05:13 AM |
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The difference is... |
Number23 |
Jun-24-08 05:19 AM |
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Ahh! Your definition of "swiftboating" is more precise than mine . . . |
MrModerate |
Jun-24-08 05:25 AM |
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Got ya.... |
Number23 |
Jun-24-08 05:34 AM |
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But IS it a lie? |
tkmorris |
Jun-24-08 05:44 AM |
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Excellent question |
Number23 |
Jun-24-08 06:11 AM |
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Go to a POW/MIA gathering and tell them about the spiffy article you found........... |
Marrah_G |
Jun-24-08 10:04 AM |
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Can you read? |
Number23 |
Jun-24-08 05:00 PM |
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The reason many deny there was torture at Gitmo or Abu Graib |
karynnj |
Jun-24-08 02:06 PM |
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come on |
qazplm |
Jun-24-08 07:14 AM |
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Altho McCain broke both arms and a leg in the crash, he was indeed tortured, immediately! |
flpoljunkie |
Jun-24-08 05:22 PM |
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This is not where we want to go against McCain |
shadowknows69 |
Jun-24-08 05:34 AM |
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By the republican definition of torture |
C_U_L8R |
Jun-24-08 06:00 AM |
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If we need to question his honor |
Jake3463 |
Jun-24-08 06:06 AM |
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So are you saying... |
Number23 |
Jun-24-08 06:19 AM |
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Yes, I'd say that. |
dems_rightnow |
Jun-24-08 05:10 PM |
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Okay |
Number23 |
Jun-24-08 05:22 PM |
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Question the validity but not the newsworthiness? |
dems_rightnow |
Jun-25-08 06:17 AM |
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I question the validity of the man's statements |
Number23 |
Jun-25-08 07:05 PM |
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Or his writing off remaining POW's to normalize relations in Vietnam |
HeeBGBz |
Jun-24-08 12:25 PM |
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That is just crap |
sandnsea |
Jun-25-08 09:04 AM |
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Right. And the NVA never killed thousands of people |
old mark |
Jun-24-08 06:22 AM |
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The kind of torture Mcsame went through is easy enough to detect |
comtec |
Jun-24-08 06:44 AM |
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Right, and zhere has never been an eshcape from Stalag 13! |
bunkerbuster1 |
Jun-24-08 06:46 AM |
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Our government officials make similar claims about our prisoners |
JVS |
Jun-24-08 06:47 AM |
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Excellent point |
Number23 |
Jun-24-08 07:12 AM |
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I ain't readin' it - did he bond with his captive? opposite of Stockholm Syndrome? NT |
crankychatter |
Jun-24-08 07:15 AM |
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Jun-24-08 09:52 AM |
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what are you alerting and shaming exactly? |
jakem |
Jun-24-08 10:45 AM |
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Here are my thoughts |
Marrah_G |
Jun-24-08 11:06 AM |
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Bravo! |
goldcanyonaz |
Jun-24-08 11:08 AM |
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What in God's name are you talking about? |
Number23 |
Jun-24-08 04:28 PM |
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They would both be inappropriate |
Marrah_G |
Jun-24-08 09:42 PM |
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Well, thankfully for us all |
Number23 |
Jun-25-08 02:14 AM |
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Oh, and here we go! |
Number23 |
Jun-24-08 04:48 PM |
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Hey, the United States doesn't torture either! (wink, wink) nt |
ToeBot |
Jun-24-08 09:56 AM |
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This is not a path I want to go down, too many other ways to attack McCain |
goldcanyonaz |
Jun-24-08 10:51 AM |
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that AU headline is pretty strange. |
chimpsrsmarter |
Jun-24-08 10:58 AM |
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I don't buy it. |
Bleachers7 |
Jun-24-08 11:19 AM |
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Yes, McCain was tortured |
JudyInTheHeartland |
Jun-24-08 12:28 PM |
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Yeah, but isn't that what our non-torturers in Gitmo say? n/t |
demokatgurrl |
Jun-24-08 01:10 PM |
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Maybe he uses the same definition for torture |
Blue_In_AK |
Jun-24-08 01:44 PM |
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This makes me more than a little queasy. |
cbayer |
Jun-24-08 02:02 PM |
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Former POW camp jailers for truth?? |
karynnj |
Jun-24-08 02:03 PM |
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I don't believe it... |
Smear Talk Express |
Jun-24-08 02:10 PM |
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Don't go there? Says Karl Rove |
pwb |
Jun-24-08 02:17 PM |
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So, he broke his own arms twice, and reset them? n/t |
AngryOldDem |
Jun-24-08 02:21 PM |
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John McCain embraces GW Bush & his failed policies. |
Disturbed |
Jun-24-08 02:46 PM |
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Well, according to McCain's definition of torture, this Tran guy is correct!! |
Major Hogwash |
Jun-24-08 04:35 PM |
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I wouldn't think they would necessarily be truthful |
KingFlorez |
Jun-24-08 05:13 PM |
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Then why are McCain's arms and hands are totally deformed and don't move. |
PM7nj |
Jun-24-08 09:47 PM |
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Is this the new swift boaters? Vietcong Captures for Truth??? |
TheDonkey |
Jun-25-08 02:26 AM |
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That's just CRAP |
Raine |
Jun-25-08 02:35 AM |
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That Guys sounds like GW Bush ...... |
kevinmc |
Jun-25-08 03:01 AM |
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Quite a difference between the two articles: Australian article omits the caution mentioned in BBC |
1Hippiechick |
Jun-25-08 04:09 AM |
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Does this mean that McCain lied about his Purple Hearts? Some people say... |
yardwork |
Jun-25-08 09:00 AM |
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I am sure he would have said |
DearAbby |
Jun-25-08 09:43 AM |
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