Marrah_G
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Tue Jun-24-08 11:06 AM
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I have to say that this post being allowed to stay up makes me think twice about DU in general.
Is this really the road we want to go down, to question whether or not all the freed POWs were liars and frauds on the word of one NVA guard? To insinuate that maybe the guard is telling the truth.
This is obviously someone attempting to make DU look like anti-soldier (different then anti-war) assholes.
There is plenty to go after McCain about. But to incite rumors based on the word of someone who claims to be his former captor, especially with the permanent injuries he sustained and the length of time he was held, is really almost unforgivable.
It is a slap in the face to every soldier who survived those camps and a real disrespect to the ones who never came home at all.
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| -McCain's Vietnamese Jailer says he was never tortured |
Number23 |
Jun-24-08 04:59 AM |
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Sorry Mr. Duyet, our pilots were most certainly tortured in the Hanoi Hilton. |
Nickster |
Jun-24-08 05:04 AM |
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I'm figuring Duyet is using the new and improved definition of torture |
IWantAnyDem |
Jun-24-08 05:15 AM |
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Ahhh, excellent point. Thanks for the clarification. I have such a pre-9/11 mindset. |
Nickster |
Jun-24-08 05:24 AM |
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This is not only completely wacky . . . |
MrModerate |
Jun-24-08 05:13 AM |
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The difference is... |
Number23 |
Jun-24-08 05:19 AM |
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Ahh! Your definition of "swiftboating" is more precise than mine . . . |
MrModerate |
Jun-24-08 05:25 AM |
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Got ya.... |
Number23 |
Jun-24-08 05:34 AM |
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But IS it a lie? |
tkmorris |
Jun-24-08 05:44 AM |
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Excellent question |
Number23 |
Jun-24-08 06:11 AM |
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Go to a POW/MIA gathering and tell them about the spiffy article you found........... |
Marrah_G |
Jun-24-08 10:04 AM |
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Can you read? |
Number23 |
Jun-24-08 05:00 PM |
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The reason many deny there was torture at Gitmo or Abu Graib |
karynnj |
Jun-24-08 02:06 PM |
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come on |
qazplm |
Jun-24-08 07:14 AM |
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Altho McCain broke both arms and a leg in the crash, he was indeed tortured, immediately! |
flpoljunkie |
Jun-24-08 05:22 PM |
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This is not where we want to go against McCain |
shadowknows69 |
Jun-24-08 05:34 AM |
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By the republican definition of torture |
C_U_L8R |
Jun-24-08 06:00 AM |
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If we need to question his honor |
Jake3463 |
Jun-24-08 06:06 AM |
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So are you saying... |
Number23 |
Jun-24-08 06:19 AM |
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Yes, I'd say that. |
dems_rightnow |
Jun-24-08 05:10 PM |
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Okay |
Number23 |
Jun-24-08 05:22 PM |
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Question the validity but not the newsworthiness? |
dems_rightnow |
Jun-25-08 06:17 AM |
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I question the validity of the man's statements |
Number23 |
Jun-25-08 07:05 PM |
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Or his writing off remaining POW's to normalize relations in Vietnam |
HeeBGBz |
Jun-24-08 12:25 PM |
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That is just crap |
sandnsea |
Jun-25-08 09:04 AM |
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Right. And the NVA never killed thousands of people |
old mark |
Jun-24-08 06:22 AM |
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The kind of torture Mcsame went through is easy enough to detect |
comtec |
Jun-24-08 06:44 AM |
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Right, and zhere has never been an eshcape from Stalag 13! |
bunkerbuster1 |
Jun-24-08 06:46 AM |
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Our government officials make similar claims about our prisoners |
JVS |
Jun-24-08 06:47 AM |
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Excellent point |
Number23 |
Jun-24-08 07:12 AM |
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I ain't readin' it - did he bond with his captive? opposite of Stockholm Syndrome? NT |
crankychatter |
Jun-24-08 07:15 AM |
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Jun-24-08 09:52 AM |
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what are you alerting and shaming exactly? |
jakem |
Jun-24-08 10:45 AM |
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Here are my thoughts |
Marrah_G |
Jun-24-08 11:06 AM |
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Bravo! |
goldcanyonaz |
Jun-24-08 11:08 AM |
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What in God's name are you talking about? |
Number23 |
Jun-24-08 04:28 PM |
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They would both be inappropriate |
Marrah_G |
Jun-24-08 09:42 PM |
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Well, thankfully for us all |
Number23 |
Jun-25-08 02:14 AM |
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Oh, and here we go! |
Number23 |
Jun-24-08 04:48 PM |
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Hey, the United States doesn't torture either! (wink, wink) nt |
ToeBot |
Jun-24-08 09:56 AM |
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This is not a path I want to go down, too many other ways to attack McCain |
goldcanyonaz |
Jun-24-08 10:51 AM |
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that AU headline is pretty strange. |
chimpsrsmarter |
Jun-24-08 10:58 AM |
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I don't buy it. |
Bleachers7 |
Jun-24-08 11:19 AM |
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Yes, McCain was tortured |
JudyInTheHeartland |
Jun-24-08 12:28 PM |
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Yeah, but isn't that what our non-torturers in Gitmo say? n/t |
demokatgurrl |
Jun-24-08 01:10 PM |
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Maybe he uses the same definition for torture |
Blue_In_AK |
Jun-24-08 01:44 PM |
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This makes me more than a little queasy. |
cbayer |
Jun-24-08 02:02 PM |
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Former POW camp jailers for truth?? |
karynnj |
Jun-24-08 02:03 PM |
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I don't believe it... |
Smear Talk Express |
Jun-24-08 02:10 PM |
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Don't go there? Says Karl Rove |
pwb |
Jun-24-08 02:17 PM |
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So, he broke his own arms twice, and reset them? n/t |
AngryOldDem |
Jun-24-08 02:21 PM |
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John McCain embraces GW Bush & his failed policies. |
Disturbed |
Jun-24-08 02:46 PM |
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Well, according to McCain's definition of torture, this Tran guy is correct!! |
Major Hogwash |
Jun-24-08 04:35 PM |
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I wouldn't think they would necessarily be truthful |
KingFlorez |
Jun-24-08 05:13 PM |
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Then why are McCain's arms and hands are totally deformed and don't move. |
PM7nj |
Jun-24-08 09:47 PM |
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Is this the new swift boaters? Vietcong Captures for Truth??? |
TheDonkey |
Jun-25-08 02:26 AM |
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That's just CRAP |
Raine |
Jun-25-08 02:35 AM |
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That Guys sounds like GW Bush ...... |
kevinmc |
Jun-25-08 03:01 AM |
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Quite a difference between the two articles: Australian article omits the caution mentioned in BBC |
1Hippiechick |
Jun-25-08 04:09 AM |
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Does this mean that McCain lied about his Purple Hearts? Some people say... |
yardwork |
Jun-25-08 09:00 AM |
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I am sure he would have said |
DearAbby |
Jun-25-08 09:43 AM |
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