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Sat Jun-21-08 10:20 AM
Response to Reply #139 |
| 141. Holier? No. More mature? Most definitey. |
| -My letter to Obama on his FISA vote |
jgraz |
Jun-20-08 08:06 PM |
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Perfect,, jgraz. |
Lugnut |
Jun-20-08 08:57 PM |
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Jun-20-08 08:58 PM |
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Threads like this are a good way to separate the real Democrats from the kool-aid drinkers. |
jgraz |
Jun-20-08 09:07 PM |
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Just the fact that you're calling people who won't bash Obama "KOOL AID DRINKERS" is telling. If |
K Gardner |
Jun-20-08 10:16 PM |
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Maybe I should just call them assholes. Oh wait, that would get my post deleted. |
jgraz |
Jun-20-08 10:38 PM |
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Yes, I guess that's why you EDITED your 'kiss my ass' comment, isn't it? Holier than |
K Gardner |
Jun-21-08 09:15 AM |
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Holier? No. More mature? Most definitey. |
jgraz |
Jun-21-08 10:20 AM |
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Very rude letter |
thewiseguy |
Jun-20-08 08:58 PM |
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Oh noes! I'll miss the your brilliant political dialogue. |
jgraz |
Jun-20-08 09:08 PM |
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I think you are supposed to be devastated. |
QC |
Jun-20-08 09:32 PM |
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Sorry I took so long to reply. I was sobbing into my pillow. |
jgraz |
Jun-20-08 09:38 PM |
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I understand. How could one not weep |
QC |
Jun-20-08 09:47 PM |
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what is with this trend of annoucing ignores? |
FarceOfNature |
Jun-20-08 09:47 PM |
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Apparently it's what all the kool kiddies are doing now. n/t |
QC |
Jun-20-08 09:53 PM |
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Jun-20-08 10:24 PM |
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Didn't you make a big Broadway production number of putting me on ignore |
QC |
Jun-20-08 10:34 PM |
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Jun-20-08 10:36 PM |
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Please put me back there and spare me the lunatic drama |
QC |
Jun-20-08 10:37 PM |
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Jun-20-08 10:44 PM |
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You have a very troubling pattern of making personal attacks. |
QC |
Jun-20-08 10:53 PM |
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Oh blah blah. Your record of not having a grip or supporting the nominee speaks for itself n/t |
Catherina |
Jun-20-08 10:56 PM |
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I haven't posted anything nearly as critical of Obama as you have tonight. |
QC |
Jun-20-08 11:00 PM |
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It's called not being a craven opportunist. You'll get over it I'm sure n/t |
Catherina |
Jun-20-08 11:06 PM |
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Who are you calling a craven opportunist? |
QC |
Jun-20-08 11:20 PM |
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Good one but no. I'm calling people who excused war votes and cluster bombs on kids |
Catherina |
Jun-20-08 11:22 PM |
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Actually, I agree with the criticism you have raised tonight. |
QC |
Jun-20-08 11:46 PM |
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Don't, please don't. I made a similar phone call to Obama HQs and told them to check my donations |
Catherina |
Jun-20-08 10:05 PM |
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Wrong Battle |
The River |
Jun-20-08 08:58 PM |
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He's supposed to be a "different" politician. Sue me if I expect more from him. |
jgraz |
Jun-20-08 09:09 PM |
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Hope. Change. |
bleuvixen |
Jun-20-08 09:19 PM |
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Excellent point -- my letter is "rude". Pissing on the Constitution is "pragmatic". |
jgraz |
Jun-20-08 09:21 PM |
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Right on. |
bleuvixen |
Jun-20-08 09:23 PM |
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off topic. but... |
IndependentDem |
Jun-20-08 09:28 PM |
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that is a quote |
bleuvixen |
Jun-20-08 09:33 PM |
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cool thanks.... |
IndependentDem |
Jun-20-08 09:38 PM |
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Not to be nasty or snarky - but if you feel that strongly about it |
cliffordu |
Jun-20-08 09:49 PM |
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whatever. anyone who has an interest in upholding the Constitution.. |
FarceOfNature |
Jun-20-08 09:54 PM |
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The anger and vituperation is what I'm talking about. |
cliffordu |
Jun-20-08 09:59 PM |
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wow two of you in one thread. |
FarceOfNature |
Jun-20-08 10:03 PM |
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Anger management? |
cliffordu |
Jun-20-08 10:06 PM |
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I have done nothing to insult you, I have merely challenged you to follow through with YOURS |
FarceOfNature |
Jun-20-08 10:07 PM |
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No, no Clifford. This is the RIGHT place! If we don't make Obama responsive to us, |
Catherina |
Jun-20-08 10:13 PM |
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I believe writing letters is a fine thing - I've done it recently - |
cliffordu |
Jun-20-08 10:24 PM |
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I am sending you a PM. Please check it in 5 minutes >>> |
Catherina |
Jun-20-08 10:38 PM |
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my thoughts exactly! |
IndependentDem |
Jun-20-08 09:23 PM |
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I Won't Sue Ya |
The River |
Jun-20-08 10:45 PM |
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There is ENOUGH shit to "undo" to last 500 presidencies without piling on more! |
FarceOfNature |
Jun-20-08 09:51 PM |
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Hope you watched John Dean on KO this evening. |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-20-08 09:23 PM |
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I plan to. What was the gist of his comments? |
jgraz |
Jun-20-08 09:24 PM |
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There are battles and there are wars. |
Kristi1696 |
Jun-20-08 09:25 PM |
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We can't win the war if we cave on every significant battle. |
jgraz |
Jun-20-08 09:31 PM |
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Exactly n/t |
Catherina |
Jun-20-08 10:14 PM |
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Yep |
ruggerson |
Jun-20-08 09:34 PM |
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I wrote a very different letter...more supportive and strategic tone |
Zodiak Ironfist |
Jun-20-08 09:28 PM |
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I hope your view is prophetic. |
AuntPatsy |
Jun-20-08 09:31 PM |
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I'd love to see your letter -- especially if it's more diplomatic than mine. ;) |
jgraz |
Jun-20-08 09:34 PM |
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I wish I could, but I sent them in web forms |
Zodiak Ironfist |
Jun-20-08 09:42 PM |
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The denial is thick around DU, but glad to see some are waking up. nt |
TheGoldenRule |
Jun-20-08 09:32 PM |
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You have no room to talk about "denial" |
zidzi |
Jun-20-08 09:38 PM |
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What in the hell are you talking about? |
TheGoldenRule |
Jun-20-08 11:05 PM |
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You miss a very important point. The activist movement supporting Obama |
Catherina |
Jun-20-08 10:18 PM |
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Sorry, but I've seen this before with Pelosi. NO ONE-not even your Obama is gonna do anything |
TheGoldenRule |
Jun-20-08 11:47 PM |
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Uh, Obama is a Senator and not in the House..... |
cliffordu |
Jun-20-08 09:34 PM |
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He announced today that he would vote in favor of it. |
jgraz |
Jun-20-08 09:36 PM |
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He ain't the president yet. |
cliffordu |
Jun-20-08 09:47 PM |
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But he's the leader of the Democratic party. He needs to step it up. |
jgraz |
Jun-20-08 10:01 PM |
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That is easy for you to say. |
cliffordu |
Jun-20-08 10:04 PM |
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Apparently you're hoping he expects less from us |
jgraz |
Jun-20-08 10:32 PM |
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HE HASN'T VOTED ON IT YET. |
cliffordu |
Jun-20-08 10:34 PM |
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Jun-20-08 09:47 PM |
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Jun-20-08 09:53 PM |
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There's absolutely no reason to be so rude and vile. |
AZBlue |
Jun-20-08 09:57 PM |
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I can think of nothing ruder or more vile than openly insinuating that someone is a troll. |
FarceOfNature |
Jun-20-08 10:00 PM |
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Those are also violations of the civility rules, |
QC |
Jun-20-08 10:02 PM |
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Yep, lucky for them I'm not an alert button humper. |
FarceOfNature |
Jun-20-08 10:05 PM |
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Really. You accuse me of being a concern troll and then play the victim. |
jgraz |
Jun-20-08 10:00 PM |
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oh disgusting. |
FarceOfNature |
Jun-20-08 09:58 PM |
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I think it's fair and civil to let others know when I've alerted their posts. |
AZBlue |
Jun-20-08 10:11 PM |
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It's a rules violation to announce an alert. |
QC |
Jun-20-08 10:13 PM |
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you should be ashamed of breaking DU civility rules. |
FarceOfNature |
Jun-20-08 10:13 PM |
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Sorry honesty bothers you. |
AZBlue |
Jun-20-08 10:26 PM |
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LOLOLOLOLOL. |
FarceOfNature |
Jun-20-08 10:42 PM |
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Have a fabulous evening, Farce! |
AZBlue |
Jun-20-08 10:43 PM |
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You seriously believe hers or his outrage to be a reason for alert? |
AuntPatsy |
Jun-20-08 10:07 PM |
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No, not at all - as I stated in my post. |
AZBlue |
Jun-20-08 10:17 PM |
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Which was your interpretation of what I wrote. Which was wrong. |
jgraz |
Jun-20-08 10:37 PM |
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You said: |
AZBlue |
Jun-20-08 10:39 PM |
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You continue to miss the point. See nsd's response below. |
jgraz |
Jun-20-08 10:47 PM |
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Please back of jgraz. Some of the strongest supporters are really hurting right now |
Catherina |
Jun-20-08 10:27 PM |
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Again, as I said in my post: |
AZBlue |
Jun-20-08 10:31 PM |
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Where has jpgraz encouraged not supporting Obama? |
Catherina |
Jun-20-08 10:35 PM |
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Right here: |
AZBlue |
Jun-20-08 10:38 PM |
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Again, that's your interpretation. You asked for no clarification. You just pounced. |
jgraz |
Jun-20-08 10:42 PM |
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So, explain. |
AZBlue |
Jun-20-08 10:44 PM |
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You could have said that without all your name-calling. |
AZBlue |
Jun-20-08 10:51 PM |
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Again. Hate to go all third-grade on you, but you started it with the name-calling. |
jgraz |
Jun-20-08 11:00 PM |
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:( I feel the same way despite my immense financial and time investment |
Catherina |
Jun-20-08 10:50 PM |
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LOL, your concern is also noted |
goldcanyonaz |
Jun-20-08 11:01 PM |
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Once we have absolute majority in congress, we'll get it done |
Swingstater |
Jun-20-08 09:53 PM |
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Iraq war, environment & climate change, abortion rights, economic justice, health care. |
nsd |
Jun-20-08 09:56 PM |
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No, I'm not saying that (though I can see why you would think that) |
jgraz |
Jun-20-08 09:59 PM |
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OK. Point taken. |
nsd |
Jun-20-08 10:02 PM |
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ugh, I share your sentiments. I am VERY disappointed as well..... |
nightrain |
Jun-20-08 10:06 PM |
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Rude, crude, and unnecessary. He knows what he's doing. If you really support him...> |
TexanDem |
Jun-20-08 10:11 PM |
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DING DING DING We have a winner!!! Exactly right. |
cliffordu |
Jun-20-08 10:12 PM |
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Exactly wrong. Save your faith for church. All politicians get the "show me" treatment. |
jgraz |
Jun-20-08 10:17 PM |
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You're the one w/ all the faith. You think he shoud fix the whole country with one freakin' vote! |
TexanDem |
Jun-20-08 10:24 PM |
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Don't be stupid. His vote is the least he could do. |
jgraz |
Jun-20-08 10:30 PM |
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Maybe he'll do that, quietly, when it hits the Senate..... |
cliffordu |
Jun-20-08 10:33 PM |
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There's some things in the bill they don't want killed. It's achieving something. I think (edited>> |
TexanDem |
Jun-20-08 10:50 PM |
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Exactly. And who thinks any candidate is going to do and say 100% of what they want. |
AZBlue |
Jun-20-08 10:29 PM |
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Well, now. OP got the ignore treatment, then the troll treatment and |
JohnnyLib2 |
Jun-20-08 10:12 PM |
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:( |
FarceOfNature |
Jun-20-08 10:16 PM |
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I'm sure the Official Alert Alert has already gone out. n/t |
QC |
Jun-20-08 10:17 PM |
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Meh, I've been here long enough that I've gotten ALL the treatments |
jgraz |
Jun-20-08 10:21 PM |
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Some people prefer us to be mindless cult followers rather than being an informed citizenry... |
Solon |
Jun-20-08 10:21 PM |
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God forbid that dittoheads should metabolize...... |
JohnnyLib2 |
Jun-20-08 10:26 PM |
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Fuck it. I'm going to sleep now. 2 full hours early because today Obama broke my heart |
Catherina |
Jun-20-08 10:33 PM |
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Catherina, please. I consider you a friend and I want you to PLEASE understand |
cliffordu |
Jun-20-08 10:37 PM |
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I have no choice but to keep the faith and I will to the bitter end |
Catherina |
Jun-20-08 11:20 PM |
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Do you want him to be President? |
AZBlue |
Jun-20-08 10:41 PM |
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Anyone who has faith in a politician is a fool... |
Solon |
Jun-20-08 10:54 PM |
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Well put. Thanks n/t |
Catherina |
Jun-20-08 10:55 PM |
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I feel like I should put this in my sig line... |
Solon |
Jun-20-08 11:01 PM |
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I feel the same about your last sentence and I say it with great love |
Catherina |
Jun-20-08 11:05 PM |
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Exactly, I fear too many people are becoming complacent... |
Solon |
Jun-20-08 11:23 PM |
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Yes. |
Catherina |
Jun-20-08 10:54 PM |
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Faith is not something |
Bluenorthwest |
Jun-20-08 11:39 PM |
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Did he vote? |
BklnDem75 |
Jun-20-08 11:09 PM |
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I am confused. I can't believe Obama will vote yes on this. |
Maureen1322 |
Jun-20-08 10:58 PM |
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I don't get it either. |
dailykoff |
Jun-20-08 11:38 PM |
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Very good |
charlie |
Jun-20-08 10:58 PM |
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Well done! |
goldcanyonaz |
Jun-20-08 11:02 PM |
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Right on! |
balantz |
Jun-20-08 11:02 PM |
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Lotta love in this room tonight..... |
cliffordu |
Jun-20-08 11:13 PM |
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Well sometimes it's tough love but you know how us Black folks get |
Catherina |
Jun-20-08 11:31 PM |
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I can't really see why he would take this position. |
dailykoff |
Jun-20-08 11:32 PM |
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Good for you. I sent him another message asking him to find 41 votes in the Senate |
Tatiana |
Jun-20-08 11:44 PM |
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Right on!!! |
rodeodance |
Jun-21-08 12:35 AM |
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Jun-21-08 01:06 AM |
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Thanks, Lirwin. You never disappoint. |
jgraz |
Jun-21-08 01:37 AM |
#138 |
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Very similar to the e-mail I sent... |
PassingFair |
Jun-21-08 10:19 AM |
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