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Fri Jun-20-08 03:57 PM
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| 13. we seem to have some 'good dems' that think Barack should be able to get Congress in line NOW... |
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to me, it seems like he has chosen the path like a trailblazer....
he will go the direction he thinks he should...why bother trying to turn EACH and EVERY jackass around and point them in the direction??
at some point, the dems in congress will see the same light we see...which does not mean they will do anything differently...
after all, there is a lot of $$$ that has been 'pre-spent' for 'activities' favorable to the lobbyists...and those lobbyists expect to get what they paid for...
and the lobbyists want to keep paying and the congresspeople want to keep receiving...
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| -With friends like us, who's got time to fight the enemy? Barack is getting fucked before he starts! |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-20-08 03:49 PM |
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Agreed. Obama's feet SHOULD be held to the fire, but... |
SteppingRazor |
Jun-20-08 03:51 PM |
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Exactly! Obama got this far |
zidzi |
Jun-20-08 06:20 PM |
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Yep. 200% support until November, then have at it. |
Dr_eldritch |
Jun-20-08 06:30 PM |
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The problem with having a big tent. nt |
anonymous171 |
Jun-20-08 03:51 PM |
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There are some people who don't belong in the Democratic tent, |
bvar22 |
Jun-20-08 08:29 PM |
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The man cannot win for losing. I can't say that I'm not disappointed in some of his recent |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-20-08 03:51 PM |
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Because it takes less work dogging out your own? |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-20-08 03:59 PM |
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If Obama loses, we will be partly responsible because we allow |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-20-08 04:10 PM |
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I hate to say this but... |
butterfly77 |
Jun-20-08 04:01 PM |
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The attacks on Michelle says it all... |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-20-08 04:22 PM |
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And a most blacks know this... |
butterfly77 |
Jun-20-08 04:32 PM |
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Yes, because Obama played the race card first... |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-20-08 04:35 PM |
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Ok, Hillirate... |
butterfly77 |
Jun-20-08 04:53 PM |
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Exactly! Here's how it works... |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-20-08 05:16 PM |
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Sorry..... |
Jazzgirl |
Jun-20-08 06:11 PM |
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Listen, even Feingold has a problem with Obama's not opting for public funding. |
jasmine621 |
Jun-20-08 05:04 PM |
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I prefer extra pepperoni on my pizza. n/t |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-20-08 05:18 PM |
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responded to wrong person - delete |
48percenter |
Jun-21-08 12:29 AM |
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That's all that you have ever done, is criticize OBama. In fact, you are an expert. |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-20-08 05:21 PM |
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There is nothing wrong with criticizing our own. |
Jazzgirl |
Jun-20-08 06:12 PM |
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I am not aware that we who are friends are skewering him... |
truedelphi |
Jun-20-08 03:52 PM |
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Check out DailyKos |
democrattotheend |
Jun-20-08 04:20 PM |
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I rarely deal with Daily Kos. They never wanted any sort of problem |
truedelphi |
Jun-20-08 04:43 PM |
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Seriously... |
Juniperx |
Jun-20-08 04:48 PM |
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why didn't he just vote no |
griffi94 |
Jun-20-08 03:52 PM |
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Know the issues |
BornBlue |
Jun-20-08 03:57 PM |
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It's called pandering. |
MrCoffee |
Jun-20-08 03:58 PM |
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The senate hasn't voted yet. He is a Senator. |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-20-08 04:00 PM |
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yes |
griffi94 |
Jun-20-08 04:04 PM |
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Then maybe you should learn to read... |
BklnDem75 |
Jun-21-08 12:15 AM |
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The Senate hasn't voted yet. |
Connie_Corleone |
Jun-20-08 04:32 PM |
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Call his office and |
OwnedByFerrets |
Jun-20-08 04:53 PM |
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Now, THIS is constructive. I agree with this tactic. |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-20-08 05:20 PM |
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Thank you LS!! |
OwnedByFerrets |
Jun-20-08 06:58 PM |
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Probably because the Senate hasn't voted on it yet. nt |
blondeatlast |
Jun-20-08 05:10 PM |
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He couldn't vote before the vote |
WesDem |
Jun-20-08 06:17 PM |
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asking questions about why the presumptive nominee is doing something stupid, like |
niyad |
Jun-20-08 03:53 PM |
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you've noticed that too? |
griffi94 |
Jun-20-08 03:55 PM |
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for quite some time now. |
niyad |
Jun-20-08 04:00 PM |
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exactly. How dare we question his cave-in rhetoric on FISA! |
villager |
Jun-20-08 03:57 PM |
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it may be, but I am not shutting up. |
niyad |
Jun-20-08 04:01 PM |
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So what have you done in reference to the bashing that he is receiving in the media |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-20-08 04:14 PM |
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So keep slapping his face, while the media distorts and fucks him in the ass...... |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-20-08 04:02 PM |
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He is supporting it as is, with the exception of working to take out Telcom immunity |
villager |
Jun-20-08 04:10 PM |
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There's a lot of fucked up Bushit |
27inCali |
Jun-20-08 06:37 PM |
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I'm sorry, but if he votes for it, he supports it, no matter how much sugar coating there is... |
FarceOfNature |
Jun-20-08 04:13 PM |
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Then don't vote for OBama...... |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-20-08 04:30 PM |
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Way to garner support for Obama... |
Juniperx |
Jun-20-08 04:53 PM |
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I'm not here at DU to "sell" Barack. |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-20-08 05:24 PM |
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don't even presume to think that I support any other candidate thatn Barack. |
FarceOfNature |
Jun-20-08 05:26 PM |
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I don't need to wave my progressive action credentials around to make a valid point. |
FarceOfNature |
Jun-20-08 05:25 PM |
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fucks him in the ass? |
Juniperx |
Jun-20-08 04:52 PM |
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If Hillary would have won the primary instead of Obama, |
sufrommich |
Jun-20-08 06:28 PM |
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You don't know what I will do in the future....so premising your post |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-20-08 07:59 PM |
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Yes, that *is* certainly an acceptable criticism, and he should be questioned about that. |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-20-08 04:34 PM |
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Well said! |
Juniperx |
Jun-20-08 04:50 PM |
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Free speech runs two ways, Last I checked...... |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-20-08 04:55 PM |
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Get off your fucking high horse! |
Juniperx |
Jun-20-08 04:58 PM |
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Well, I'm just a weirdo....... |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-20-08 05:02 PM |
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Me too... |
Juniperx |
Jun-20-08 05:08 PM |
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Not a problem. |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-20-08 05:18 PM |
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It seems that the |
brensgrrl |
Jun-20-08 11:14 PM |
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The heavy hitters need to put the M$M in their place in regards to the |
tekisui |
Jun-20-08 03:54 PM |
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I hope so, too |
WesDem |
Jun-20-08 06:30 PM |
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It is our duty to keep his feet to the fire and hold him accountable. Sorry if that doesn't sit well |
GarbagemanLB |
Jun-20-08 03:54 PM |
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It is your duty to lose the election, obviously. |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-20-08 04:04 PM |
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Your anger is really counterproductive! |
Juniperx |
Jun-20-08 04:54 PM |
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Not anger....more like disgust. |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-20-08 04:59 PM |
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You're right. We should look the other way when a sitting Senator screws us. |
MrCoffee |
Jun-20-08 03:55 PM |
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Obama has yet to vote. The Senate has not voted. |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-20-08 04:07 PM |
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I agree! |
Tim4319 |
Jun-20-08 03:56 PM |
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While Democrats here jump on him of the FISA Bill yet to be voted on in the senate. |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-20-08 04:13 PM |
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Are there a lot of repugs in DU. today? seems like it... |
Imagevision |
Jun-20-08 03:56 PM |
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we seem to have some 'good dems' that think Barack should be able to get Congress in line NOW... |
islandmkl |
Jun-20-08 03:57 PM |
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The media needs a close race for their ratings |
DaveTheWave |
Jun-20-08 03:59 PM |
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Fortunately most of the people trying to do so are heard by a very small group |
grantcart |
Jun-20-08 03:59 PM |
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MLK was hard on LBJ because he was in a position to see the injustice. It doesn't matter how "good" |
uponit7771 |
Jun-20-08 04:01 PM |
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Frenchie I can't do it again |
sandnsea |
Jun-20-08 04:13 PM |
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People are either complaining or rejoicing. |
ProSense |
Jun-20-08 04:20 PM |
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Well, like I said, if DUers were as "worked" up by taking action against the media |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-20-08 04:28 PM |
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Republicans unite behind their canddiates while the left splinters. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-20-08 04:30 PM |
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That's what is so fucking sad. That folks here feel like they don't make a difference |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-20-08 04:31 PM |
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Exactly! That's what's so appalling. Yes, criticize him, but get the guy fucking elected!! |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-20-08 04:41 PM |
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Good Luck...n/t |
Steely_Dan |
Jun-20-08 04:33 PM |
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Well, you have the option to vote for McCain... (no?) |
Imagevision |
Jun-20-08 04:55 PM |
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A true friend tells you when you have dog poop on your face... |
Youphemism |
Jun-20-08 04:58 PM |
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But what about the media that is skewering him now for his refusal of |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-20-08 05:01 PM |
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In case you haven't noticed... |
Youphemism |
Jun-20-08 05:23 PM |
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I don't have a problem with what you have stated...... |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-20-08 05:27 PM |
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I didn't call them ineffective... I gave a suggestion to make them more effective... |
Youphemism |
Jun-20-08 05:47 PM |
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Boy are you good. I bow my head in awe n/t |
Catherina |
Jun-20-08 05:56 PM |
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exactly how I feel. Thank you for articulating it so well |
FarceOfNature |
Jun-20-08 05:29 PM |
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We can either hold the man accountable for his actions or not... |
Solon |
Jun-20-08 05:26 PM |
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Take a break for a while if it's affecting you this much |
Catherina |
Jun-20-08 05:27 PM |
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Maybe I'm pissed because the threads below sunk..... |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-20-08 05:30 PM |
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Well I just kicked and recommended them and others will too |
Catherina |
Jun-20-08 05:35 PM |
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I agree and if you agree with the OP you might agree with this: |
grantcart |
Jun-20-08 06:02 PM |
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Big Picture.. |
zidzi |
Jun-20-08 11:14 PM |
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Frenchie, I guess the main issue is we can't agree |
Jazzgirl |
Jun-20-08 06:08 PM |
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It's the curse of being an informed voter--often, your chosen candidate |
Arkana |
Jun-20-08 06:14 PM |
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The genteel and pure here, are taking exception to your language |
crankychatter |
Jun-20-08 06:23 PM |
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Absolutely! Wait until he gets elected & THEN progressives hold his (or ANYONE's) feet to the fire |
cloudythescribbler |
Jun-20-08 06:24 PM |
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isn't that closing the barn doors after the horse is already out? the only thing politicians care a |
FourPieRun |
Jun-20-08 07:12 PM |
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Welcome to DU. That's my take too. n/t |
Catherina |
Jun-20-08 07:14 PM |
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Name removed |
Jun-20-08 06:30 PM |
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Edit: Good riddance to bad rubbish. nt |
blondeatlast |
Jun-20-08 06:35 PM |
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Refer to... |
RNdaSilva |
Jun-20-08 07:28 PM |
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I'm worried too, FrenchieCat. Failure is not an option. |
Olney Blue |
Jun-20-08 08:13 PM |
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I don't know...I'm baffled by it. |
AZBlue |
Jun-20-08 11:04 PM |
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The question is whether we want his victory to be ours as well... |
Solon |
Jun-20-08 11:08 PM |
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So does the 2nd step come before the 1st step..... |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-20-08 11:10 PM |
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They don't have to happen chronologically... |
Solon |
Jun-20-08 11:15 PM |
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It can't. |
AZBlue |
Jun-20-08 11:48 PM |
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Sometimes you have to focus on one prize only. |
AZBlue |
Jun-20-08 11:44 PM |
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The biggest difference between us is that I do not trust Obama... |
Solon |
Jun-20-08 11:49 PM |
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I'm totally willing to hold him accountable. |
AZBlue |
Jun-20-08 11:55 PM |
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The problem is WHEN will be the right time to hold him accountable? |
Solon |
Jun-21-08 12:00 AM |
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That's a great point. *We* aren't required to *worship* our candidates... |
villager |
Jun-21-08 12:58 AM |
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He needs to to carve out a path and we need to help him |
bambino |
Jun-21-08 12:00 AM |
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Yes, we can do that after the election, and I fully expect to n/t |
eridani |
Jun-21-08 03:08 AM |
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