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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 03:49 PM
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With friends like us, who's got time to fight the enemy? Barack is getting fucked before he starts!
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Edited on Fri Jun-20-08 03:51 PM by FrenchieCat
While Democrats are busy keeping Obama's feet to the fire, the Media and the Right Wing have him on a skewer BBQing him.

How can we win this way?

I say that he can't.

For those who want to rationalize, go ahead.....Since that's what it is all about.

Just don't ask how in the fuck did we lose? :shrug:

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  -With friends like us, who's got time to fight the enemy? Barack is getting fucked before he starts! FrenchieCat  Jun-20-08 03:49 PM   #0 
  - Agreed. Obama's feet SHOULD be held to the fire, but...  SteppingRazor   Jun-20-08 03:51 PM   #1 
  - Exactly! Obama got this far  zidzi   Jun-20-08 06:20 PM   #89 
  - Yep. 200% support until November, then have at it.  Dr_eldritch   Jun-20-08 06:30 PM   #93 
  - The problem with having a big tent. nt  anonymous171   Jun-20-08 03:51 PM   #2 
  - There are some people who don't belong in the Democratic tent,  bvar22   Jun-20-08 08:29 PM   #104 
  - The man cannot win for losing. I can't say that I'm not disappointed in some of his recent  Liberal_Stalwart71   Jun-20-08 03:51 PM   #3 
  - Because it takes less work dogging out your own?  FrenchieCat   Jun-20-08 03:59 PM   #19 
  - If Obama loses, we will be partly responsible because we allow  Liberal_Stalwart71   Jun-20-08 04:10 PM   #29 
  - I hate to say this but...  butterfly77   Jun-20-08 04:01 PM   #22 
     - The attacks on Michelle says it all...  Liberal_Stalwart71   Jun-20-08 04:22 PM   #37 
     - And a most blacks know this...  butterfly77   Jun-20-08 04:32 PM   #43 
        - Yes, because Obama played the race card first...  Liberal_Stalwart71   Jun-20-08 04:35 PM   #46 
           - Ok, Hillirate...  butterfly77   Jun-20-08 04:53 PM   #52 
           - Exactly! Here's how it works...  Liberal_Stalwart71   Jun-20-08 05:16 PM   #66 
           - Sorry.....  Jazzgirl   Jun-20-08 06:11 PM   #85 
     - Listen, even Feingold has a problem with Obama's not opting for public funding.  jasmine621   Jun-20-08 05:04 PM   #63 
        - I prefer extra pepperoni on my pizza. n/t  Liberal_Stalwart71   Jun-20-08 05:18 PM   #67 
        - responded to wrong person - delete  48percenter   Jun-21-08 12:29 AM   #118 
        - That's all that you have ever done, is criticize OBama. In fact, you are an expert.  FrenchieCat   Jun-20-08 05:21 PM   #70 
        - There is nothing wrong with criticizing our own.  Jazzgirl   Jun-20-08 06:12 PM   #86 
  - I am not aware that we who are friends are skewering him...  truedelphi   Jun-20-08 03:52 PM   #4 
  - Check out DailyKos  democrattotheend   Jun-20-08 04:20 PM   #35 
     - I rarely deal with Daily Kos. They never wanted any sort of problem  truedelphi   Jun-20-08 04:43 PM   #48 
        - Seriously...  Juniperx   Jun-20-08 04:48 PM   #49 
  - why didn't he just vote no  griffi94   Jun-20-08 03:52 PM   #5 
  - Know the issues  BornBlue   Jun-20-08 03:57 PM   #15 
  - It's called pandering.  MrCoffee   Jun-20-08 03:58 PM   #16 
  - The senate hasn't voted yet. He is a Senator.  FrenchieCat   Jun-20-08 04:00 PM   #20 
  - yes  griffi94   Jun-20-08 04:04 PM   #27 
     - Then maybe you should learn to read...  BklnDem75   Jun-21-08 12:15 AM   #117 
  - The Senate hasn't voted yet.  Connie_Corleone   Jun-20-08 04:32 PM   #42 
  - Call his office and  OwnedByFerrets   Jun-20-08 04:53 PM   #54 
  - Now, THIS is constructive. I agree with this tactic.  Liberal_Stalwart71   Jun-20-08 05:20 PM   #69 
     - Thank you LS!!  OwnedByFerrets   Jun-20-08 06:58 PM   #98 
  - Probably because the Senate hasn't voted on it yet. nt  blondeatlast   Jun-20-08 05:10 PM   #65 
  - He couldn't vote before the vote  WesDem   Jun-20-08 06:17 PM   #88 
  - asking questions about why the presumptive nominee is doing something stupid, like  niyad   Jun-20-08 03:53 PM   #6 
  - you've noticed that too?  griffi94   Jun-20-08 03:55 PM   #9 
  - for quite some time now.  niyad   Jun-20-08 04:00 PM   #21 
  - exactly. How dare we question his cave-in rhetoric on FISA!  villager   Jun-20-08 03:57 PM   #14 
  - it may be, but I am not shutting up.  niyad   Jun-20-08 04:01 PM   #24 
     - So what have you done in reference to the bashing that he is receiving in the media  FrenchieCat   Jun-20-08 04:14 PM   #34 
  - So keep slapping his face, while the media distorts and fucks him in the ass......  FrenchieCat   Jun-20-08 04:02 PM   #25 
  - He is supporting it as is, with the exception of working to take out Telcom immunity  villager   Jun-20-08 04:10 PM   #30 
  - There's a lot of fucked up Bushit  27inCali   Jun-20-08 06:37 PM   #97 
  - I'm sorry, but if he votes for it, he supports it, no matter how much sugar coating there is...  FarceOfNature   Jun-20-08 04:13 PM   #32 
  - Then don't vote for OBama......  FrenchieCat   Jun-20-08 04:30 PM   #40 
     - Way to garner support for Obama...  Juniperx   Jun-20-08 04:53 PM   #53 
     - I'm not here at DU to "sell" Barack.  FrenchieCat   Jun-20-08 05:24 PM   #72 
        - don't even presume to think that I support any other candidate thatn Barack.  FarceOfNature   Jun-20-08 05:26 PM   #75 
     - I don't need to wave my progressive action credentials around to make a valid point.  FarceOfNature   Jun-20-08 05:25 PM   #73 
  - fucks him in the ass?  Juniperx   Jun-20-08 04:52 PM   #51 
  - If Hillary would have won the primary instead of Obama,  sufrommich   Jun-20-08 06:28 PM   #92 
     - You don't know what I will do in the premising your post  FrenchieCat   Jun-20-08 07:59 PM   #102 
  - Yes, that *is* certainly an acceptable criticism, and he should be questioned about that.  Liberal_Stalwart71   Jun-20-08 04:34 PM   #45 
  - Well said!  Juniperx   Jun-20-08 04:50 PM   #50 
     - Free speech runs two ways, Last I checked......  FrenchieCat   Jun-20-08 04:55 PM   #57 
        - Get off your fucking high horse!  Juniperx   Jun-20-08 04:58 PM   #59 
           - Well, I'm just a weirdo.......  FrenchieCat   Jun-20-08 05:02 PM   #62 
              - Me too...  Juniperx   Jun-20-08 05:08 PM   #64 
                 - Not a problem.  FrenchieCat   Jun-20-08 05:18 PM   #68 
                 - It seems that the  brensgrrl   Jun-20-08 11:14 PM   #108 
  - The heavy hitters need to put the M$M in their place in regards to the  tekisui   Jun-20-08 03:54 PM   #7 
  - I hope so, too  WesDem   Jun-20-08 06:30 PM   #95 
  - It is our duty to keep his feet to the fire and hold him accountable. Sorry if that doesn't sit well  GarbagemanLB   Jun-20-08 03:54 PM   #8 
  - It is your duty to lose the election, obviously.  FrenchieCat   Jun-20-08 04:04 PM   #26 
     - Your anger is really counterproductive!  Juniperx   Jun-20-08 04:54 PM   #55 
        - Not anger....more like disgust.  FrenchieCat   Jun-20-08 04:59 PM   #60 
  - You're right. We should look the other way when a sitting Senator screws us.  MrCoffee   Jun-20-08 03:55 PM   #10 
  - Obama has yet to vote. The Senate has not voted.  FrenchieCat   Jun-20-08 04:07 PM   #28 
  - I agree!  Tim4319   Jun-20-08 03:56 PM   #11 
  - While Democrats here jump on him of the FISA Bill yet to be voted on in the senate.  FrenchieCat   Jun-20-08 04:13 PM   #33 
  - Are there a lot of repugs in DU. today? seems like it...  Imagevision   Jun-20-08 03:56 PM   #12 
  - we seem to have some 'good dems' that think Barack should be able to get Congress in line NOW...  islandmkl   Jun-20-08 03:57 PM   #13 
  - The media needs a close race for their ratings  DaveTheWave   Jun-20-08 03:59 PM   #17 
  - Fortunately most of the people trying to do so are heard by a very small group  grantcart   Jun-20-08 03:59 PM   #18 
  - MLK was hard on LBJ because he was in a position to see the injustice. It doesn't matter how "good"  uponit7771   Jun-20-08 04:01 PM   #23 
  - Frenchie I can't do it again  sandnsea   Jun-20-08 04:13 PM   #31 
  - People are either complaining or rejoicing.  ProSense   Jun-20-08 04:20 PM   #36 
  - Well, like I said, if DUers were as "worked" up by taking action against the media  FrenchieCat   Jun-20-08 04:28 PM   #38 
  - Republicans unite behind their canddiates while the left splinters.  Radical Activist   Jun-20-08 04:30 PM   #39 
  - That's what is so fucking sad. That folks here feel like they don't make a difference  FrenchieCat   Jun-20-08 04:31 PM   #41 
  - Exactly! That's what's so appalling. Yes, criticize him, but get the guy fucking elected!!  Liberal_Stalwart71   Jun-20-08 04:41 PM   #47 
  - Good Luck...n/t  Steely_Dan   Jun-20-08 04:33 PM   #44 
  - Well, you have the option to vote for McCain... (no?)  Imagevision   Jun-20-08 04:55 PM   #56 
  - A true friend tells you when you have dog poop on your face...  Youphemism   Jun-20-08 04:58 PM   #58 
  - But what about the media that is skewering him now for his refusal of  FrenchieCat   Jun-20-08 05:01 PM   #61 
  - In case you haven't noticed...  Youphemism   Jun-20-08 05:23 PM   #71 
     - I don't have a problem with what you have stated......  FrenchieCat   Jun-20-08 05:27 PM   #77 
        - I didn't call them ineffective... I gave a suggestion to make them more effective...  Youphemism   Jun-20-08 05:47 PM   #81 
           - Boy are you good. I bow my head in awe n/t  Catherina   Jun-20-08 05:56 PM   #82 
  - exactly how I feel. Thank you for articulating it so well  FarceOfNature   Jun-20-08 05:29 PM   #78 
  - We can either hold the man accountable for his actions or not...  Solon   Jun-20-08 05:26 PM   #74 
  - Take a break for a while if it's affecting you this much  Catherina   Jun-20-08 05:27 PM   #76 
  - Maybe I'm pissed because the threads below sunk.....  FrenchieCat   Jun-20-08 05:30 PM   #79 
     - Well I just kicked and recommended them and others will too  Catherina   Jun-20-08 05:35 PM   #80 
  - I agree and if you agree with the OP you might agree with this:  grantcart   Jun-20-08 06:02 PM   #83 
  - Big Picture..  zidzi   Jun-20-08 11:14 PM   #109 
  - Frenchie, I guess the main issue is we can't agree  Jazzgirl   Jun-20-08 06:08 PM   #84 
  - It's the curse of being an informed voter--often, your chosen candidate  Arkana   Jun-20-08 06:14 PM   #87 
  - The genteel and pure here, are taking exception to your language  crankychatter   Jun-20-08 06:23 PM   #90 
  - Absolutely! Wait until he gets elected & THEN progressives hold his (or ANYONE's) feet to the fire  cloudythescribbler   Jun-20-08 06:24 PM   #91 
  - isn't that closing the barn doors after the horse is already out? the only thing politicians care a  FourPieRun   Jun-20-08 07:12 PM   #99 
     - Welcome to DU. That's my take too. n/t  Catherina   Jun-20-08 07:14 PM   #100 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-20-08 06:30 PM   #94 
  - Edit: Good riddance to bad rubbish. nt  blondeatlast   Jun-20-08 06:35 PM   #96 
  - Refer to...  RNdaSilva   Jun-20-08 07:28 PM   #101 
  - I'm worried too, FrenchieCat. Failure is not an option.  Olney Blue   Jun-20-08 08:13 PM   #103 
  - I don't know...I'm baffled by it.  AZBlue   Jun-20-08 11:04 PM   #105 
  - The question is whether we want his victory to be ours as well...  Solon   Jun-20-08 11:08 PM   #106 
     - So does the 2nd step come before the 1st step.....  FrenchieCat   Jun-20-08 11:10 PM   #107 
     - They don't have to happen chronologically...  Solon   Jun-20-08 11:15 PM   #110 
     - It can't.  AZBlue   Jun-20-08 11:48 PM   #112 
     - Sometimes you have to focus on one prize only.  AZBlue   Jun-20-08 11:44 PM   #111 
        - The biggest difference between us is that I do not trust Obama...  Solon   Jun-20-08 11:49 PM   #113 
           - I'm totally willing to hold him accountable.  AZBlue   Jun-20-08 11:55 PM   #114 
           - The problem is WHEN will be the right time to hold him accountable?  Solon   Jun-21-08 12:00 AM   #116 
           - That's a great point. *We* aren't required to *worship* our candidates...  villager   Jun-21-08 12:58 AM   #119 
  - He needs to to carve out a path and we need to help him  bambino   Jun-21-08 12:00 AM   #115 
  - Yes, we can do that after the election, and I fully expect to n/t  eridani   Jun-21-08 03:08 AM   #120 

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