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Response to Reply #12
47. it's a form of religion, and some of us like to keep that stuff out of politics
Edited on Thu Jun-12-08 12:55 PM by foo_bar
It's like a road map and a good astrologer can read what to watch out for and the best times to take advantages of oportunities to name a couple things.
The Bible is Gods roadmap for our lives. In it, He tells us how to walk, what to do, and where we are going. All the instructions a Christian needs to guide him through life are contained in those pages. So how do we find them? Through Bible study.

http://www.logos.com/nationalbibleweek/biblestudy/1

(There'll be no detours in heaven no rough roads along the way
I'm using my Bible for a roadmap my last stop is heaven some sweet day)

I'm using my Bible for a roadmap the Ten Commandments they tell me what to do
The twelve disciples are my road signs and Jesus will take me safely through
(There'll be no detours in heaven...

http://www.metrolyrics.com/im-using-my-bible-for-a-road...
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  -Obama's astrological chart helderheid  Jun-12-08 11:53 AM   #0 
  - So THIS is why he was so reluctant to make his birth certificate public...  Bicoastal   Jun-12-08 12:01 PM   #1 
  - :(  helderheid   Jun-12-08 12:03 PM   #2 
     - I've been wary of astrology ever since I was 21...  Bicoastal   Jun-12-08 12:06 PM   #4 
        - Okay.  helderheid   Jun-12-08 12:07 PM   #5 
        - I'm sorry to hear that..most unfortunate..  zidzi   Jun-12-08 12:16 PM   #12 
        - it's a form of religion, and some of us like to keep that stuff out of politics  foo_bar   Jun-12-08 12:54 PM   #47 
        - Well-- that's all of philosophy too.  LanternWaste   Jun-12-08 01:41 PM   #65 
        - I think you mean "Wittgenstein", if you're confusing philosophers with theologians  foo_bar   Jun-12-08 02:06 PM   #73 
           - I was under the impression that  LanternWaste   Jun-12-08 02:14 PM   #75 
              - my main beef isn't with intractable belief systems, it's proselytism  foo_bar   Jun-12-08 02:26 PM   #76 
                 - I think the OP answered to that very point  LanternWaste   Jun-12-08 02:37 PM   #79 
                    - the OP consists of a "star chart"  foo_bar   Jun-12-08 02:59 PM   #83 
        - Astrology is, in many ways, a totalitarian thought-form.  Nabeshin   Jun-12-08 05:56 PM   #111 
        - nah  marions ghost   Jun-13-08 10:15 AM   #184 
           - I don't see praying as a prerequisite for religion  foo_bar   Jun-13-08 10:40 AM   #186 
        - I had an astrologer tell me that my girlfriend and I were going to break up  Indenturedebtor   Jun-12-08 12:54 PM   #48 
           - That Day to Day Stuff  otohara   Jun-12-08 04:41 PM   #100 
           - did the person tell you when? Because it could happen one day.  dorktv   Jun-13-08 12:05 AM   #159 
        - LOL, so you'd have plenty of time to have a crappy life? n/t  gkhouston   Jun-12-08 01:01 PM   #52 
        - Hmmm....  Dr_eldritch   Jun-12-08 08:29 PM   #130 
  - I've got a bucket of chicken guts that proves this chart wrong.  Bornaginhooligan   Jun-12-08 12:04 PM   #3 
  - I've got some breading & a can of Crisco. Are you thinking what I'm thinking?  Bucky   Jun-12-08 12:28 PM   #20 
     - Is the breading made from corn flakes?  janesez   Jun-12-08 01:22 PM   #59 
  - Even with the link to the thread, I have absolutely no idea what that means.  terrya   Jun-12-08 12:08 PM   #6 
  - It means this:  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jun-12-08 12:15 PM   #9 
     - I know what that is  eShirl   Jun-12-08 12:16 PM   #11 
     - I didn't know what that was,  Bill McBlueState   Jun-12-08 12:22 PM   #15 
     - Well, that clears things up! Thanks!  terrya   Jun-12-08 12:35 PM   #26 
     - I don't get it  uberllama42   Jun-12-08 01:23 PM   #60 
        - What noise does a theremin make? n/t  moggie   Jun-12-08 02:30 PM   #78 
           - Ah.  uberllama42   Jun-12-08 03:18 PM   #92 
           - Hehehe... very good.  Dr_eldritch   Jun-12-08 08:31 PM   #131 
  - It looks like Pluto and Chiron "count"?  Bill McBlueState   Jun-12-08 12:09 PM   #7 
  - well, it's Plutoid *now*  CreekDog   Jun-12-08 05:15 PM   #106 
  - Astrology doesn't care about the arbitrary definition of a planet.  BalancedGoat   Jun-12-08 07:40 PM   #121 
     - Chiron, from what I've been told....  moriah   Jun-12-08 11:16 PM   #152 
     - Believe me; if you find out more about it, it'll be even easier to dismiss as a crazy superstition  Orrex   Jun-13-08 12:07 AM   #162 
  - ooo now he can be like Reagan  eShirl   Jun-12-08 12:14 PM   #8 
  - Nothing wrong with astrology.  zidzi   Jun-12-08 12:22 PM   #17 
     - Astrology is not knowledge. Astrology is the antithesis of knowledge. {EOM}  The Night Owl   Jun-12-08 12:24 PM   #18 
     - That's your opinion..thanks for  zidzi   Jun-12-08 12:34 PM   #24 
        - Do you find my lack of faith disturbing?  The Night Owl   Jun-12-08 12:37 PM   #29 
        - Well goodie for you!  helderheid   Jun-12-08 12:38 PM   #30 
        - No but Mars is in Uranus.  48percenter   Jun-12-08 12:41 PM   #32 
        - I think you can think what you want..  zidzi   Jun-12-08 12:48 PM   #38 
        - I think  Gilligan   Jun-13-08 11:57 AM   #189 
     - actually there's a lot wrong with astrology  eShirl   Jun-12-08 12:41 PM   #31 
     - Can't you naysayers just view this for entertainment purposes only and if you don't find it  helderheid   Jun-12-08 12:43 PM   # 
     - note that I didn't reply to this post in the astrology forum  eShirl   Jun-12-08 12:48 PM   #37 
     - Touche  helderheid   Jun-12-08 12:49 PM   #39 
     - I was in the astrology forum and a discussion on politics broke out. n/t  greguganus   Jun-13-08 12:09 PM   #196 
     - Entertainment is wondering whether Superman and Batman will appear together in a movie.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jun-12-08 05:54 PM   #110 
     - Fucking genius!  Gilligan   Jun-13-08 12:20 PM   #199 
     - "Entertainment purposes only"? Put it in the damn lounge, then. nt  greyl   Jun-12-08 06:32 PM   #117 
     - Don't get your feathers in a bunch. There are many threads that are entertaining in GD:P besides  helderheid   Jun-12-08 06:54 PM   #118 
        - This isn't the only thread that's fucking stupid, but that doesn't make it right. nt  greyl   Jun-12-08 07:35 PM   #119 
           - Then why do you bother? I mean really?  helderheid   Jun-12-08 10:53 PM   #146 
     - You do not get to  Gilligan   Jun-13-08 12:07 PM   #193 
     - Just say nay. n/t  greguganus   Jun-13-08 12:08 PM   #194 
     - Carl Sagan kicks ass! {EOM}  The Night Owl   Jun-12-08 12:43 PM   #34 
     - But could Batman kick Superman's ass? n/t  greguganus   Jun-13-08 12:11 PM   #197 
        - No way  Gilligan   Jun-13-08 12:35 PM   #209 
     - There's always at least two school's of thought on practically  zidzi   Jun-12-08 12:46 PM   #36 
        - right: the reality-based community's school of thought  eShirl   Jun-12-08 12:49 PM   #41 
           - If that makes you feel better to  zidzi   Jun-12-08 12:51 PM   #42 
              - thanks for your permission  eShirl   Jun-12-08 12:53 PM   #45 
     - I'm having flashbacks of "The Meeting Room"  Bleachers7   Jun-12-08 11:14 PM   #151 
     - There is a lot wrong with astrology - its epistimologically bankrupt  grantcart   Jun-13-08 09:46 AM   #181 
  - Venus in Cancer:  ribofunk   Jun-12-08 12:15 PM   #10 
  - LOL!  helderheid   Jun-12-08 12:30 PM   #21 
  - There's so much interest in Obama's birth certificate....  noel711   Jun-12-08 12:35 PM   #25 
  - I'll be posting a phrenology report later.  Blue-Jay   Jun-12-08 12:18 PM   #13 
  - If I read this chart correctly...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Jun-12-08 12:19 PM   # 
  - Correct readings of astrological charts have the same value as incorrect readings...  The Night Owl   Jun-12-08 12:22 PM   #16 
  - You know I'm kidding, right?  Jeff In Milwaukee   Jun-12-08 12:31 PM   #22 
  - LOl, Nice!  ChimpersMcSmirkers   Jun-12-08 10:08 PM   #143 
  - Superstitious nonsense. {EOM}  The Night Owl   Jun-12-08 12:19 PM   #14 
  - ooo, I'm sure that was convincing  Abacus   Jun-12-08 12:46 PM   #35 
     - I never understood, either..  zidzi   Jun-12-08 12:49 PM   #40 
     - Criticizing astrology is unhealthy? That takes the cake. {EOM}  The Night Owl   Jun-12-08 12:52 PM   #44 
        - No, driving it into the  zidzi   Jun-12-08 12:58 PM   #51 
        - I don't think that anyone implied that criticism in and of itself is wrong  LanternWaste   Jun-12-08 01:52 PM   #68 
           - What is wrong about ridiculing astrology?  The Night Owl   Jun-12-08 02:50 PM   #82 
     - That people still need to be convinced that astrology is nonsense is precisely the problem. {EOM}  The Night Owl   Jun-12-08 12:51 PM   #43 
        - How true. The problem is a bunch of people who read their horoscopes.  helderheid   Jun-12-08 12:53 PM   #46 
        - Correct. The surrender of reason is precisely the problem. {EOM}  The Night Owl   Jun-13-08 09:25 AM   #180 
           - Be careful. Some astrologers have voodoo friends and they may make a doll in your image. n/t  greguganus   Jun-13-08 12:14 PM   #198 
        - Who are you to tell people what they believe is wrong?  easttexaslefty   Jun-13-08 08:11 AM   #174 
           - People can dismiss what I have to say about astrology, but what they should not dismiss...  The Night Owl   Jun-13-08 09:11 AM   #179 
              - good luck  marions ghost   Jun-13-08 11:04 AM   #187 
                 - "Live and let live, when it's not hurting anybody."  The Night Owl   Jun-13-08 12:26 PM   #201 
                 - Double post. Ignore. {EOM}  The Night Owl   Jun-13-08 12:26 PM   #202 
  - Thanks for posting this, helderheid..  zidzi   Jun-12-08 12:25 PM   #19 
  - Thank YOU! I just have to...  helderheid   Jun-12-08 12:32 PM   #23 
  - I'm going to read it later..  zidzi   Jun-12-08 12:36 PM   #28 
  - That's a common defense of astrology  Bill McBlueState   Jun-12-08 12:54 PM   #49 
     - I taught myself and there's nothing wrong  zidzi   Jun-12-08 01:08 PM   #54 
     - Once again, you decline to make the merest case for astrology  uberllama42   Jun-12-08 02:01 PM   #72 
     - Either you believe, or you don't.  lildreamer316   Jun-12-08 11:26 PM   #153 
        - True  uberllama42   Jun-13-08 01:30 AM   #163 
           - Astrology is a tingly symptom of a greater, graver ill. nt  greyl   Jun-13-08 01:49 AM   #166 
     - or maybe we understand all too well  eShirl   Jun-12-08 03:01 PM   #86 
     - Pretty general statement about astrologers there  moonlady0623   Jun-12-08 03:00 PM   #85 
  - I believe in astrology to some extent...  kentuck   Jun-12-08 12:36 PM   #27 
  - Since I've been appying  zidzi   Jun-12-08 12:42 PM   #33 
  - Let's hope he lives up to his Mars in Virgo.  RadiationTherapy   Jun-12-08 12:57 PM   #50 
  - What does John McCain's look like?  whistle   Jun-12-08 01:07 PM   #53 
  - That would be interesting! I need to find out when and what time and where he was born  helderheid   Jun-12-08 01:09 PM   #55 
  - Good luck we can't even get a birth certificate from McCain  whistle   Jun-12-08 01:29 PM   #61 
     - Kind of difficult to drag a cave wall into a press conference...  Prag   Jun-12-08 03:17 PM   #91 
  - like this  eShirl   Jun-12-08 01:09 PM   #56 
  - here you go!  helderheid   Jun-12-08 01:20 PM   #58 
  - Astrology is hokum - I much prefer divination from wild goose eggs  EstimatedProphet   Jun-12-08 01:12 PM   #57 
  - or readings from chicken entrails  whistle   Jun-12-08 01:32 PM   #62 
  - Poppycock, I say! Reading goat entrails is the only way to know the future!  TexasObserver   Jun-13-08 02:22 AM   #167 
  - How does astrology work, exactly?  uberllama42   Jun-12-08 01:36 PM   #63 
  - See post 66.  helderheid   Jun-12-08 01:43 PM   #67 
  - Post #66 doesn't address any of my questions  uberllama42   Jun-12-08 01:55 PM   #69 
     - I'm no expert. Maybe an astrologer can answer your question.  helderheid   Jun-12-08 03:09 PM   #89 
  - It works because planets are pinholes in the sackcloth that surrounds Earth  EstimatedProphet   Jun-12-08 02:37 PM   #80 
  - Heresy!  Prag   Jun-12-08 03:13 PM   #90 
  - I asked you  Gilligan   Jun-13-08 12:30 PM   #205 
  - I'll answer as best I can.  BalancedGoat   Jun-12-08 08:19 PM   #124 
  - i'll bite...  druidity33   Jun-12-08 09:42 PM   #140 
     - LOL  Bornaginhooligan   Jun-13-08 12:05 PM   #191 
  - You really should have posted this in the Astrology, Spirituality & Alternative Healing forum...  DRoseDARs   Jun-12-08 01:38 PM   #64 
  - I did. I posted this here knowing that some who would find it interesting may not  helderheid   Jun-12-08 01:42 PM   #66 
     - Ce la vie.  DRoseDARs   Jun-12-08 04:55 PM   #103 
     - that is a very healthy attitude  eShirl   Jun-12-08 05:09 PM   #105 
  - Oh no! Obama hangs to the RIGHT!  PelosiFan   Jun-12-08 01:58 PM   #70 
  - !  helderheid   Jun-12-08 01:59 PM   #71 
  - I don't have a strong opinion about astrology. But I think this is a fun read.  SalviaBlue   Jun-12-08 02:12 PM   #74 
  - But what's his Meyers-Briggs type?  FloridaJudy   Jun-12-08 02:26 PM   #77 
  - Is that a sun in Leo in the 7th house (nearly) conjunct mercury?  Generator   Jun-12-08 02:42 PM   #81 
  - For those of us who have no idea what these charts mean  rox63   Jun-12-08 02:59 PM   #84 
  - To summarize, the charts say...  The Night Owl   Jun-12-08 03:04 PM   #87 
  - ..  WritingIsMyReligion   Jun-12-08 04:24 PM   #97 
  - I wish I could! My sister can read them - I can't. If you click the link though there is a detailed  helderheid   Jun-12-08 03:05 PM   #88 
  - I had a Spirograph when I was a kid, too!  asthmaticeog   Jun-12-08 04:01 PM   #93 
  - Combine that with a Lite Brite and you TOO can be a Nostradumbass.  Blue-Jay   Jun-12-08 04:22 PM   #95 
  - I made a Lego Carlos Casteneda when I was a kid.  asthmaticeog   Jun-12-08 06:27 PM   #116 
     - ROTFLMAO  Joanie Baloney   Jun-13-08 12:26 PM   #203 
  - Fool !!! Everyone knows you have to have a SUPER spirograph!! n/t  greguganus   Jun-13-08 12:22 PM   #200 
  - The most interesting thing about astrology I ever read ...  Straight Shooter   Jun-12-08 04:17 PM   #94 
  - I never understand how anybody believes that large pieces of gas and rock in space can influence  WritingIsMyReligion   Jun-12-08 04:23 PM   #96 
  - "Also pretty vague, but also pretty different"  uberllama42   Jun-12-08 04:28 PM   #98 
     - I adore his voice.  WritingIsMyReligion   Jun-12-08 05:57 PM   #112 
        - Ever see the YouTube clip where they take Sagan's voice  uberllama42   Jun-12-08 06:03 PM   #114 
  - Nancy???  BigDDem   Jun-12-08 04:32 PM   #99 
  - My astrologer told me last week that they had a new birth time on Senator Obama  riskpeace   Jun-12-08 04:47 PM   #101 
  - Aquarius Rising  otohara   Jun-12-08 04:56 PM   #104 
  - I'm Leo with Scorpio Rising.  riskpeace   Jun-12-08 08:23 PM   #128 
  - LOL - I'm a Scorpio rising. Don't believe in it, but don't worry. We are normal. :)  krabigirl   Jun-13-08 10:33 AM   #185 
  - Yes, he's Aquarius rising - I finally managed to read it. Fascinating!  helderheid   Jun-12-08 06:26 PM   #115 
     - It is fascinating.  riskpeace   Jun-12-08 08:22 PM   #125 
  - Thanks For Posting This  otohara   Jun-12-08 04:48 PM   #102 
  - The world awaits your prognostications. Godspeed.  The Night Owl   Jun-12-08 05:21 PM   #107 
     - Insulting Me  otohara   Jun-12-08 05:25 PM   #108 
     - Does it make you feel superior  easttexaslefty   Jun-13-08 08:20 AM   #175 
        - Yes. I consider the science way of thinking to be superior to...  The Night Owl   Jun-13-08 09:05 AM   #177 
  - Thank you very much.  Major Hogwash   Jun-12-08 05:52 PM   #109 
  - I wear tin foil hats exactly for this reason.  stratomagi   Jun-12-08 05:59 PM   #113 
  - Magic 8 Ball Anyone?  ninja8590   Jun-12-08 08:13 PM   #122 
  - I'm not sure whether I should be embarrassed by this Liberal foolishness or...  Orrex   Jun-12-08 07:38 PM   #120 
  - Astrology is bullshit. That's about all.  Occam Bandage   Jun-12-08 08:14 PM   #123 
  - That's your opinion, and you are certainly entitled to it.  Raster   Jun-12-08 08:23 PM   #127 
  - It's not a matter of opinion. You don't get to declare your own facts.  Occam Bandage   Jun-12-08 08:27 PM   #129 
     - Very few astrologers believe in a causative relationship. nt  BalancedGoat   Jun-12-08 08:41 PM   #133 
        - Yep. Correlation does NOT equal causation.  moriah   Jun-12-08 10:33 PM   #144 
           - Nor does correlation exist between astrology and real life.  Occam Bandage   Jun-13-08 12:02 AM   #156 
              - Considering that many astrological interpretations are rather vague....  moriah   Jun-13-08 04:12 AM   #170 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-12-08 10:51 PM   #145 
  - wow  helderheid   Jun-12-08 11:56 PM   #155 
  - If you like. Most of those don't make claims which are absolutely false,  Occam Bandage   Jun-13-08 12:03 AM   #158 
     - Am I? I POSTED A FUCKING ASTROLOGICAL CHART. I am flabbergasted at some of the reactions.  helderheid   Jun-13-08 09:04 AM   #176 
        - He is referring to your deleted post, not the OP. nt  greyl   Jun-13-08 12:01 PM   #190 
  - Mods, if you're going to delete my response to this, then this message  helderheid   Jun-13-08 09:07 AM   #178 
     - It isn't a matter of belief systems.  Occam Bandage   Jun-13-08 09:51 AM   #182 
        - Your hypocriticism is showing.  helderheid   Jun-13-08 11:49 AM   #188 
        - I believe you mean,  Occam Bandage   Jun-13-08 12:29 PM   #204 
        - This is like replying to  Gilligan   Jun-13-08 12:33 PM   #207 
  - Ooga Booga Smooga Wooga.  bleever   Jun-12-08 08:23 PM   #126 
  - I wish the people posting this stuff were all trolls,  antfarm   Jun-12-08 08:35 PM   #132 
  - Wait! Are Saying Jesus Didn't Ride Dinosaurs?????  Beetwasher   Jun-12-08 08:46 PM   #134 
  - Thanks for the links  blogslut   Jun-12-08 08:49 PM   #135 
  - Thanks helderheid!  Duder   Jun-12-08 08:56 PM   #136 
  - Thank you for posting this - very interesting. (C'mon, surely one more DUer can give this a 5th rec)  scarletwoman   Jun-12-08 09:04 PM   #137 
  - Interesting. I do like astrology.  moriah   Jun-12-08 09:10 PM   #138 
  - Kick -- I already rec'd -- just to piss off the materialists.  scarletwoman   Jun-12-08 09:32 PM   #139 
  - not materialists -- realists.  eShirl   Jun-12-08 09:46 PM   #141 
  - Well, MY "reality" happens to include more than just the physical dimension.  scarletwoman   Jun-12-08 09:55 PM   #142 
  - We have empirically documented reality; you have some far-out wishful thinking  Orrex   Jun-13-08 12:03 AM   #157 
  - There is no "before" the big bang.  Occam Bandage   Jun-13-08 12:05 AM   #160 
  - You mean what happened before time came into existence?  SanchoPanza   Jun-13-08 04:41 AM   #172 
  - Your reality includes imagination?  Bornaginhooligan   Jun-13-08 12:06 PM   #192 
  - post 145  helderheid   Jun-12-08 10:55 PM   #147 
  - Hey, non-materialist!  zidzi   Jun-12-08 10:57 PM   #148 
     - Funny how threatening this is compared to LOLcats!  helderheid   Jun-12-08 11:01 PM   #149 
     - I was thinking about it  zidzi   Jun-12-08 11:04 PM   #150 
     - LOLcats do not make verifiably false claims, nor do they  Occam Bandage   Jun-13-08 12:06 AM   #161 
        - What on earth are they spending the money on?  moriah   Jun-13-08 04:09 AM   #169 
           - "Unless you're lazy as well as gullible."  Occam Bandage   Jun-13-08 09:52 AM   #183 
     - Hey! It certainly is a hoot.  scarletwoman   Jun-13-08 06:43 AM   #173 
  - "Astrologys predictions always fail, and it has been falsified repeatedly."  greyl   Jun-12-08 11:54 PM   #154 
  - Yes, we know you believe every bad thing  zidzi   Jun-13-08 01:34 AM   #164 
     - Yes, we know your post is misdirection. nt  greyl   Jun-13-08 01:46 AM   #165 
  - I believe astro theology was the basis for Egyptian and Mesopotamian religions, circa 1000-2500 BCE  TexasObserver   Jun-13-08 02:29 AM   #168 
  - Star gazing was important for early civilizations.  Bornaginhooligan   Jun-13-08 12:09 PM   #195 
  - I've also heard you can learn a lot about a person by  antfarm   Jun-13-08 04:23 AM   #171 
  - Now that even the freepers are making fun of this thread...  Greyskye   Jun-13-08 12:31 PM   #206 
  - Whether the subhumans are laughing at our woo-woos or not,  Occam Bandage   Jun-13-08 12:33 PM   #208 
  - Locking  CabalPowered   Jun-13-08 01:10 PM   #210 
 

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