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Wed Jun-11-08 07:12 AM
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| 64. What Camille Paglia has to say... |
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Camille Paglia at her nastiest:
Hillary for veep? Are you mad? What party nominee worth his salt would chain himself to a traveling circus like the Bill and Hillary Show? If the sulky bearded lady wasn't biting the new president’s leg, the oafish carnival barker would be sending in the clowns to lure all the young ladies into back-of-the-tent sword-swallowing. It would be a seamy orgy of scheming and screwing. Hillary could never be content with second place. But neither could an alpha male like Obama. The vice-president should be an accomplished but subordinate personality. An Obama-Hillary ticket might tickle party regulars, but it would be a big fat minus in the general election. Republicans have shrewdly stockpiled a mammoth arsenal of past scandals to strafe Hillary with. Only a sentimental masochist would want to relive the tawdry 1990s.
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| -The unfortunate reality of Hillary for Vice President |
grantcart |
Jun-11-08 12:09 AM |
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if it was Hillary versus anyone else, would she have won in Ohio, Pennsylvania, etc? |
dwickham |
Jun-11-08 12:11 AM |
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I believe that the reasons for her victories in Ohio and PA versus places like |
grantcart |
Jun-11-08 12:13 AM |
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Pennsylvania people are smart enough |
brensgrrl |
Jun-11-08 12:40 AM |
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haha Naivete? |
Radical Activist |
Jun-11-08 01:15 AM |
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You just described Illinois |
philkd |
Jun-11-08 01:15 AM |
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I campaigned hard for Hillary in PA and race never came up. |
Beacool |
Jun-11-08 01:24 AM |
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OMG I can't wait for tomorrow. |
thecatburgler |
Jun-11-08 01:36 AM |
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Why? |
Beacool |
Jun-11-08 01:53 AM |
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Sorry, can't hear you. The dog whistles from your previous post are too loud. nt |
thecatburgler |
Jun-11-08 02:06 AM |
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maybe you and the rest of the Obama bullies |
paulk |
Jun-11-08 08:36 AM |
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The problem is that they don't want to hear it |
Beacool |
Jun-11-08 08:43 AM |
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The question is... |
Liberal Gramma |
Jun-11-08 10:41 AM |
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You know, the real issue is people who make judgments |
Labors of Hercules |
Jun-11-08 10:54 AM |
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Race is a factor in Western PA. Those people ar very |
ej510 |
Jun-11-08 09:27 AM |
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And I'm sure you disabused them of the notion that he was |
mcctatas |
Jun-11-08 01:46 AM |
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Actually, yes. n/t |
Beacool |
Jun-11-08 01:51 AM |
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Yeah right. nt |
thecatburgler |
Jun-11-08 02:08 AM |
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delete by me |
Gilligan |
Jun-11-08 01:31 AM |
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Yes Penn was the only state that counted |
Indenturedebtor |
Jun-11-08 02:05 AM |
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PA. NOT "Penn". |
WinkyDink |
Jun-11-08 06:04 AM |
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Heheh I know what the abbreviation is n/t |
Indenturedebtor |
Jun-11-08 10:13 AM |
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The majority of the country is a little too much. |
Beacool |
Jun-11-08 08:46 AM |
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Yes millions did vote for her, most voted for Obama. |
Indenturedebtor |
Jun-11-08 10:16 AM |
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No, in PA, she won in large part due to negative campaigning... |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-11-08 06:35 AM |
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That's not so. |
Beacool |
Jun-11-08 08:37 AM |
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Well, the unfortunate reality |
dailykoff |
Jun-11-08 12:14 AM |
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Here in DU I didn't expect her to be popular. . . |
brensgrrl |
Jun-11-08 12:42 AM |
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Her campaign was a disaster. She basically lost on day one |
dailykoff |
Jun-11-08 01:34 AM |
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New Hampshire nt |
dmesg |
Jun-11-08 06:00 AM |
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She had more comebacks than Britney Spears |
dailykoff |
Jun-11-08 10:23 AM |
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i respect my mom |
swampg8r |
Jun-11-08 09:04 AM |
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You are using DU as an example??? |
Beacool |
Jun-11-08 08:50 AM |
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you are right |
swampg8r |
Jun-11-08 09:04 AM |
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She'd won before it started until it started, then she lost and never recovered. |
dailykoff |
Jun-11-08 10:14 AM |
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My hatred of her proven lies aside, strategically it's a stupid move. |
Zhade |
Jun-11-08 12:16 AM |
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DING DING DING We have a winner!!! Exactly right. |
cliffordu |
Jun-11-08 12:20 AM |
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Thank you. That's the first time in a while anyone got it. |
Zhade |
Jun-11-08 01:07 AM |
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all examples of the drama that is the Clintons - unfortunate really |
grantcart |
Jun-11-08 12:26 AM |
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love them or not, the Clintons are larger than life |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jun-11-08 03:52 AM |
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Exactly.. |
sendero |
Jun-11-08 06:32 AM |
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Hillary would be a FOOL to accept the VP |
brensgrrl |
Jun-11-08 12:38 AM |
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Out of curiosity... can you elaborate on that, please? |
DangerousRhythm |
Jun-11-08 12:41 AM |
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This is the only elaboration necessary for this poster. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-11-08 01:21 AM |
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yes... |
Gilligan |
Jun-11-08 01:35 AM |
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just a bad case of sour grapes |
foo_bar |
Jun-11-08 01:43 AM |
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I agfree! |
leftofcool |
Jun-11-08 01:05 AM |
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Hmmm - sounds like you actually want to see Obama fail - set up for a 2012 rematch? |
Paint It Black |
Jun-11-08 09:00 AM |
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No thanks. I'd like to win. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-11-08 01:19 AM |
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Lost badly??? |
Beacool |
Jun-11-08 01:28 AM |
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Only third rate dictators claim the popular vote when they're the only name on the ballot. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-11-08 01:40 AM |
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No it isn't . |
Beacool |
Jun-11-08 01:44 AM |
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And to the rest of us... |
mcctatas |
Jun-11-08 01:48 AM |
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His abilities definitely. |
Beacool |
Jun-11-08 01:51 AM |
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I think I understand now why Hillary lost. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-11-08 01:56 AM |
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No, what' isn't? |
Radical Activist |
Jun-11-08 01:50 AM |
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Being a state senator? |
Beacool |
Jun-11-08 01:57 AM |
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Obama won the most primaries. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-11-08 02:07 AM |
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There's no point discussing anything with you. |
Beacool |
Jun-11-08 08:56 AM |
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You haven't responded to a single point I've made. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-11-08 10:12 AM |
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I was noticing that too, |
dailykoff |
Jun-11-08 10:17 AM |
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She was NOT |
polmaven |
Jun-11-08 06:24 AM |
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Kucinich and Gravel were the only other candidates on the ballot. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-11-08 10:16 AM |
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I think the supporters |
polmaven |
Jun-11-08 10:47 AM |
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Correcting a mistatements is what I just did. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-11-08 10:52 AM |
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Counting MI and discounting 4 caucus states. |
thecatburgler |
Jun-11-08 01:40 AM |
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Counting MI and the 4 caucus states she still wins the popular vote. |
Beacool |
Jun-11-08 01:49 AM |
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Does the fourth count give the uncommitteds to Obama? |
thecatburgler |
Jun-11-08 02:05 AM |
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Um care to post a useable link so we can see what chicanery you used there? |
Indenturedebtor |
Jun-11-08 02:10 AM |
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She gave Obama 0%, of course. She has no problem with Stalinist elections. nt |
thecatburgler |
Jun-11-08 02:29 AM |
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How many votes did Obama get in Michigan? |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-11-08 06:26 AM |
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here we go again |
swampg8r |
Jun-11-08 09:13 AM |
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Go to Real Clear Politics and see it for yourself. |
Beacool |
Jun-11-08 09:00 AM |
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i lost the link |
swampg8r |
Jun-11-08 09:11 AM |
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Counting only WI, SC, and HI... |
dmesg |
Jun-11-08 06:04 AM |
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BTW, Per CNN exit polls, 206000 of MI voters would have chose Obama if he were on the ballot. |
thecatburgler |
Jun-11-08 02:27 AM |
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Almost 18,000,000 votes |
polmaven |
Jun-11-08 06:23 AM |
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... |
anonymous171 |
Jun-11-08 01:30 AM |
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Umm, no |
Asgaya Dihi |
Jun-11-08 02:13 AM |
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i write to the campaign daily and say |
swampg8r |
Jun-11-08 09:15 AM |
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Definately Secretary of Hillary |
symbolman |
Jun-11-08 03:14 AM |
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*snort* |
charlie |
Jun-11-08 04:08 AM |
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It's just never going to be a good idea for Obama - he has to look BEYOND the election |
CakeGrrl |
Jun-11-08 04:02 AM |
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Hillary would get Obama more votes than anyone else, but McCain still more |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Jun-11-08 04:24 AM |
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Don't see it happening |
Prophet 451 |
Jun-11-08 05:13 AM |
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Your best argument works against her |
dansolo |
Jun-11-08 05:57 AM |
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I would humbly suggest to Obama supporters to accept the |
JCMach1 |
Jun-11-08 06:07 AM |
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As a Hillary supporter who now 100% supports Obama for the GE |
musicblind |
Jun-11-08 06:25 AM |
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If that is the case, then we will most assuredly lose this election! n/t |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-11-08 06:32 AM |
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What Camille Paglia has to say... |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-11-08 07:12 AM |
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You're quoting Paglia on DU? Do you even know who she is? |
Maddy McCall |
Jun-11-08 08:53 AM |
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Do you claim some kind of ownership on "knowing who Camille Paglia is?" |
XtraProudDem |
Jun-11-08 09:54 AM |
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Paglia, Sullivan, Kristol, Novak, fucking Drudge |
Lilith Velkor |
Jun-11-08 10:10 AM |
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I strongly suspect this is being polled by Obama surrogates |
tpi10d |
Jun-11-08 08:07 AM |
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Um no. She would cause repubs to vote in droves, even dead ones. n/t |
greguganus |
Jun-11-08 08:10 AM |
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Ronnie Reagan would emerge from his grave to vote for McCain if Hillary's the VP! n/t |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-11-08 09:54 AM |
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I dont think this argument holds water |
paulk |
Jun-11-08 10:24 AM |
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I think it would be smart to choose her |
AJH032 |
Jun-11-08 10:21 AM |
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