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Mon Jun-09-08 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #139 |
| 145. "Bashing" does not equate to calling out contradictory behavior on HRC's part |
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The bottom line is that these people - Geraldine Ferraro, Dianne Feinstein, Stephanie Tubbs-Jones, etc. - are out there advocating the same talking points that Hillary herself used less than 1 week ago. There is no disputing that.
HRC cannot claim that we have to work together to get Democrats elected while her surrogates run around saying the same things they've been saying during the campaign:
"Sexism is why Hillary lost!" (and the implication is that Obama is part of that)
"Hillary won the popular vote" (she can only claim that if you ignore certain votes that cannot be counted)
"Obama will need Hillary's supporters, and he should consider or for VP" (or else...)
Hillary can certainly ask them not to keep pushing these talking points, which are now nothing but divisive since we have our Democratic nominee.
The test is whether she will actually do it. And if she does not, that tells us quite a bit.
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| -Despite Hillary's speech, the divisive message from Hillary surrogates continues |
ProSense |
Jun-08-08 02:47 PM |
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But she did win the popular vote you haters! |
sellitman |
Jun-08-08 03:01 PM |
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I was all ready to answer you until |
zidzi |
Jun-08-08 03:28 PM |
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The OP is one of two people still posting attack threads.... |
niceypoo |
Jun-10-08 08:16 AM |
#156 |
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How about we allow a LITTLE time for issues to settle, BUT on the CRUCIAL practical ... |
cloudythescribbler |
Jun-08-08 03:03 PM |
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Not so cloudy, cloudy |
iconicgnom |
Jun-08-08 11:39 PM |
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ProSense, can you help me? |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-08-08 03:05 PM |
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She and her surrogates stoked those fires |
Carolina |
Jun-08-08 03:08 PM |
#4 |
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Exactly! |
Diamonique |
Jun-08-08 03:14 PM |
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Yep. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-08-08 03:15 PM |
#9 |
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Nodding in agreement. (n/t) |
me b zola |
Jun-08-08 07:09 PM |
#66 |
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You nailed it. Exactly. |
Diane R |
Jun-08-08 08:18 PM |
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Brace yourself. They'll be back. |
grassfed |
Jun-08-08 11:44 PM |
#98 |
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Maybe she thinks she is getting off that easy? One speech and everyone just forgets etc etc...? |
ForeignSpectator |
Jun-09-08 12:47 PM |
#142 |
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"Obama won, it's his show" - and here is where the fundamental disconnect with reality is showing |
apocalypsehow |
Jun-08-08 03:09 PM |
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It would be nice if the "real" Clinton supporters would denounce this... |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-08-08 03:10 PM |
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Did you see Tubb Jones when they flashed to the audience |
goclark |
Jun-08-08 07:10 PM |
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I've been most disappointed in Jackson Lee and Tubbs-Jones. Does anyone know |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-08-08 09:47 PM |
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I don't know but I have been disappointed as well |
goclark |
Jun-08-08 11:55 PM |
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Tubb Jones needs to go to Promises for a rest nt |
goclark |
Jun-09-08 08:19 AM |
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I saw that, she acted like she was on drugs. |
Major Hogwash |
Jun-09-08 06:18 AM |
#113 |
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My thoughts exactly |
goclark |
Jun-09-08 08:04 AM |
#122 |
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With any luck, Feinstein's comment would be locked next week if she were a DU'er |
FlyingSquirrel |
Jun-08-08 03:10 PM |
#7 |
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The sincerity of the concession speech is offset by trademark Clinton mixed messages |
CakeGrrl |
Jun-08-08 03:25 PM |
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The DLC are grasping at straws |
newmajority |
Jun-08-08 03:15 PM |
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Of course, it's about the dlc grasping and anyone |
zidzi |
Jun-08-08 03:40 PM |
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DiFi is about at DLC as they come. |
Raster |
Jun-09-08 01:28 PM |
#143 |
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I'm going to need a little help |
polmaven |
Jun-08-08 03:17 PM |
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Who are "us" exactly? I've been trying to figure that out all morning. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-08-08 03:22 PM |
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"Us" means...QUITE OBVIOUSLY... |
polmaven |
Jun-08-08 03:40 PM |
#21 |
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Except, Clinton supporters are moving to Obama, Obama is courting them |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-08-08 03:43 PM |
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Ok, listen CLOSELY! |
polmaven |
Jun-08-08 03:55 PM |
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Yes, it is simple. Tubbs Jones is implying there is a problem |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-08-08 03:58 PM |
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She was "implying" nothing of the sort. |
polmaven |
Jun-08-08 04:40 PM |
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Not according to yourself. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-08-08 04:50 PM |
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You will obviously never understand |
polmaven |
Jun-08-08 04:56 PM |
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That's simply a dodge. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-08-08 05:08 PM |
#52 |
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I think I agree with you, they are making a mountain out of a molehill, |
mcg |
Jun-08-08 09:58 PM |
#85 |
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WHITE WOMEN AND "HARD-WORKING" WHITE PEOPLE!! |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-08-08 09:51 PM |
#82 |
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Yeah, see.... |
polmaven |
Jun-09-08 06:20 AM |
#114 |
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This is what the media continues to assert... |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-10-08 08:18 AM |
#157 |
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YES n/t |
sandnsea |
Jun-08-08 03:26 PM |
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I will assume you |
polmaven |
Jun-08-08 03:41 PM |
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Excuse me, but that "pamper us" argument is getting old and tired. |
madfloridian |
Jun-08-08 03:47 PM |
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From where on EARTH |
polmaven |
Jun-08-08 04:03 PM |
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It is your choice. It was my choice in 04 as a Deaniac to get on board with Kerry. |
madfloridian |
Jun-08-08 04:13 PM |
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Please READ my post #11. |
polmaven |
Jun-08-08 04:44 PM |
#49 |
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Those are not the only choices |
kelligesq |
Jun-09-08 10:39 AM |
#137 |
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No |
sandnsea |
Jun-08-08 03:50 PM |
#33 |
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Dean didn't extort his voters when he lost to Kerry.. |
zidzi |
Jun-08-08 03:43 PM |
#26 |
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Exactly right. |
madfloridian |
Jun-08-08 03:48 PM |
#32 |
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Just trying to deal in |
zidzi |
Jun-08-08 09:32 PM |
#76 |
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Again...this is NOT |
polmaven |
Jun-08-08 05:23 PM |
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She just assumes those 18 million are EXCLUSIVELY hers. Not true. |
madfloridian |
Jun-08-08 07:09 PM |
#67 |
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I will say it one LAST time |
polmaven |
Jun-08-08 09:05 PM |
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But, it's a big problem for us that |
zidzi |
Jun-08-08 09:30 PM |
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And Senator Clinton cannot win without Obama's supporters! |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-08-08 09:52 PM |
#83 |
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Senator Clinton |
polmaven |
Jun-09-08 06:12 AM |
#112 |
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and i will say ONLY one time... |
tomp |
Jun-09-08 09:08 AM |
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AMEN!!! |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-09-08 09:17 AM |
#130 |
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I think it's a gratuitious statement... |
zidzi |
Jun-08-08 09:28 PM |
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'Extortion' describes what was in the Palm Beach Post yesterday from a Florida superdelegate: |
seafan |
Jun-08-08 10:16 PM |
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jon ausman must be dlc all the way. |
zidzi |
Jun-08-08 11:35 PM |
#94 |
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Obama will do whatever is |
Mudoria |
Jun-09-08 09:57 AM |
#133 |
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So very true. A much better example of unifying the party. n/t |
krkaufman |
Jun-08-08 11:01 PM |
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I wish someone would notify the press proof of that popular vote thing. |
Window |
Jun-08-08 03:19 PM |
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If Obama chooses another woman for VP, I believe would cause |
kokono |
Jun-08-08 06:54 PM |
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I feel the same way. However, Obama is very intelligent and I trust him |
Window |
Jun-09-08 06:33 AM |
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tubb jones is dreamin'.. |
zidzi |
Jun-08-08 11:41 PM |
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You've got that right. I don't know about these people with their 'conditional' support. |
Window |
Jun-09-08 06:30 AM |
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The Clinton campaign is far from over. |
dailykoff |
Jun-08-08 03:20 PM |
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Yeah, we wouldn't want to rain on hilary's carnival but |
zidzi |
Jun-08-08 03:46 PM |
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Exactly. |
dailykoff |
Jun-08-08 09:41 PM |
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See...I knew that Shit would continue with feinstein and the dinos |
zidzi |
Jun-08-08 03:24 PM |
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Obama Won |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jun-08-08 03:29 PM |
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Depends on whether or not the officiating is corrupt |
newmajority |
Jun-08-08 03:46 PM |
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I LOVE your sigline. |
Zhade |
Jun-08-08 04:29 PM |
#45 |
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I don't care about this anymore. |
slinkerwink |
Jun-08-08 03:30 PM |
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It's supposed to be irrelevant at this point, |
ProSense |
Jun-08-08 03:48 PM |
#31 |
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Those who ignore hilary |
zidzi |
Jun-08-08 11:45 PM |
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Get over it. Move on. |
MethuenProgressive |
Jun-08-08 03:42 PM |
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NO. SHE. DIDN'T. |
Zhade |
Jun-08-08 03:45 PM |
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well yes she did. |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-08-08 04:11 PM |
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No, she did not. Stop lying. CAUCUSES COUNT. |
Zhade |
Jun-08-08 04:30 PM |
#46 |
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How come Feinstein didn't pay any attention to the emails against the IWR, Rice's confirmation as |
Garbo 2004 |
Jun-08-08 03:59 PM |
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"War profiteer backs Clinton refusniks" is the headline here. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-08-08 04:01 PM |
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On a side note, |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Jun-08-08 04:01 PM |
#37 |
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He really is a long distance runner. I love that about him. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-08-08 04:03 PM |
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Thank you for this post. The re-writing of history to placate Hillary Clinton supporters is just |
Unbowed |
Jun-08-08 04:06 PM |
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Feinstein is a DINO-we all know that |
RMP2008 |
Jun-08-08 04:07 PM |
#42 |
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Fienstien was on CNN this morning doing the same thing... |
hardbop |
Jun-08-08 04:37 PM |
#47 |
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Well...since she won the popular vote. |
Liberal Veteran |
Jun-08-08 05:20 PM |
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how about Hillary as Majority Leader? |
Prophet 451 |
Jun-08-08 05:47 PM |
#55 |
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I don't. It would put Clinton in a position to control and/or derail Obama's agenda. |
Liberal Veteran |
Jun-08-08 06:01 PM |
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Sec of Education? |
Prophet 451 |
Jun-08-08 06:31 PM |
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Hmm. MAYBE, but I can't help thinking that would bode badly in the event of a Cylon attack. |
Liberal Veteran |
Jun-08-08 06:37 PM |
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Well if that happens, we're all fucked anyway n/t |
Prophet 451 |
Jun-08-08 06:45 PM |
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I believe that she alienated many of her fellow Democratic Senators. |
mod mom |
Jun-08-08 06:51 PM |
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Personally, I'd hate to see her rewarded for this kind of thing |
Flash Bazbo |
Jun-08-08 08:31 PM |
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She needs to shut them up imo. |
Obama4prez4life |
Jun-08-08 06:33 PM |
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In due time... |
prodn2000 |
Jun-08-08 06:36 PM |
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She doesn't want to shut them up....they're doing exactly what she wants. |
Diane R |
Jun-08-08 08:17 PM |
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Hillary is obligated to tell DiFi and all the others to stop talking shit. |
TexasObserver |
Jun-08-08 06:59 PM |
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Despite Obama's nom and Hill's endorsement, the divisive message from SOME BO supporters continues |
PeaceNikki |
Jun-08-08 07:01 PM |
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You got it backwards. Hillary has a responsibility to stop what she started... |
madfloridian |
Jun-08-08 08:28 PM |
#71 |
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Wrong. The DOUBLESPEAK from HRC continues...via her surrogates |
CakeGrrl |
Jun-08-08 09:44 PM |
#80 |
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Wrong..we're not digging our |
zidzi |
Jun-08-08 11:52 PM |
#100 |
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You'll find a ton of praise for Hillary here |
muryan |
Jun-09-08 01:11 AM |
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OMGZ! A HATE HILLARY PROSENSE THREAD!!!!!11111 |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-08-08 09:39 PM |
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I didn't see any "hatred" here. I saw someone that does not like supposed Democrats |
ExPatLeftist |
Jun-08-08 10:02 PM |
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Prosense, as usual, posted news articles to keep us apprised |
jonestonesusa |
Jun-08-08 10:22 PM |
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Shocking, isn't it? n/t |
QC |
Jun-08-08 11:43 PM |
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She can now stand back and let The Enablers do her dirty work so that she doesn't accept blame |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-08-08 09:43 PM |
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I have read the posts on her official blog they are fan girls invested in an adoration that requires |
rosebud57 |
Jun-08-08 09:57 PM |
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Need more salt to rub in the wounds? Talk about divisive.... |
Breeze54 |
Jun-08-08 10:25 PM |
#89 |
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So, do you think it's a good idea for Clinton surrogates |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-09-08 12:59 AM |
#107 |
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BOTH sides need to fucking stop!! - It's OVER!!! n/t |
Breeze54 |
Jun-09-08 08:39 PM |
#147 |
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Senator Feinstein is making me very angry |
Dems to Win |
Jun-08-08 10:33 PM |
#90 |
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Exactly. If HRC *truly* wanted unity, she could stop this. |
CakeGrrl |
Jun-08-08 10:46 PM |
#92 |
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Really? She could stop it? The same way the orders |
kelligesq |
Jun-09-08 11:03 AM |
#139 |
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"Bashing" does not equate to calling out contradictory behavior on HRC's part |
CakeGrrl |
Jun-09-08 02:02 PM |
#145 |
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Intellectually honest was never one of |
zidzi |
Jun-08-08 11:57 PM |
#102 |
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Why don't you just go ahead and tell us who you're working for? |
guruoo |
Jun-08-08 10:45 PM |
#91 |
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She's working for us and our democracy by |
zidzi |
Jun-09-08 12:00 AM |
#103 |
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You guys promised once Hillary conceded, and endorsed Obama you'd stop attacking her. |
guruoo |
Jun-09-08 12:41 AM |
#104 |
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Quit whining..it doesn't |
zidzi |
Jun-09-08 12:43 AM |
#105 |
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Well, |
guruoo |
Jun-09-08 12:56 AM |
#106 |
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And don't be a such a jerk |
zidzi |
Jun-09-08 01:11 AM |
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If so, then why don't you tell your fellow suspects to quit whining about Hillary, and get to work? |
guruoo |
Jun-09-08 09:50 AM |
#132 |
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Who the fuck is attacking Hillary in this thread? |
Paint It Black |
Jun-09-08 08:25 AM |
#126 |
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I looked, and can't find a single Barak bashing OP on greatest, or latest. |
guruoo |
Jun-09-08 11:21 PM |
#150 |
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Please re-read my post, and answer the question |
Paint It Black |
Jun-10-08 08:03 AM |
#155 |
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I just sent this email to Feinstein |
Dems to Win |
Jun-09-08 01:14 AM |
#110 |
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Don't do it, Hillary! It's a sinking ship.... |
candice |
Jun-09-08 02:25 AM |
#111 |
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keep your delusions alive. "Mr. Obama does not have the record of a winner"? |
ima_sinnic |
Jun-09-08 07:30 AM |
#119 |
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TWO DAYS LEFT. Get your licks in while you can. |
PelosiFan |
Jun-09-08 06:27 AM |
#115 |
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Trust me, she will use every second of those two days. |
11 Bravo |
Jun-09-08 06:47 AM |
#118 |
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It's a good thing they instituted the three post rule in response to her endless spamming, |
QC |
Jun-09-08 08:07 AM |
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Thank goodness for that. |
PelosiFan |
Jun-09-08 10:10 AM |
#135 |
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love ya!!!! |
lionesspriyanka |
Jun-09-08 07:55 AM |
#120 |
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Are you suggesting that in two days news will no longer be allowed on this site. |
ProSense |
Jun-09-08 09:50 AM |
#131 |
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I am saying that such obvious divisiveness will not be allowed. |
PelosiFan |
Jun-09-08 10:07 AM |
#134 |
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You don't make any sense. n/t |
ProSense |
Jun-09-08 10:18 AM |
#136 |
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Are you talking to yourself? n/t |
PelosiFan |
Jun-09-08 10:42 AM |
#138 |
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Speaking of divisiveness, your post is the epitome of it. Nice going, ProSense |
mtnsnake |
Jun-09-08 08:00 AM |
#121 |
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I got "blasted" a couple |
FlaGranny |
Jun-09-08 08:09 AM |
#124 |
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What would Obama supporters be saying if |
cricket08 |
Jun-09-08 08:47 AM |
#127 |
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why would anyone believe.... |
tomp |
Jun-09-08 09:16 AM |
#129 |
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None of you are doing anything to accelerate unity - |
kelligesq |
Jun-09-08 11:18 AM |
#140 |
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No one cares. |
ProSense |
Jun-09-08 11:20 AM |
#141 |
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what does it matter if they call themselves democrats... |
tomp |
Jun-09-08 01:52 PM |
#144 |
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And now she'll be campaigning for Obama. |
guruoo |
Jun-10-08 09:01 AM |
#162 |
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Finally, someone who gets the real picture, I also do not believe he will win |
GetTheRightVote |
Jun-09-08 11:58 PM |
#153 |
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Isn't it obvious that Hillary has ZERO control of her supporters? |
TexasObserver |
Jun-09-08 02:34 PM |
#146 |
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It's like a bad dream that will not end |
ampad |
Jun-09-08 09:12 PM |
#148 |
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Thank you senator Feinstein for your constant support!!! |
Beacool |
Jun-09-08 09:36 PM |
#149 |
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I took Diane Feinstein's statement as a statement of fact, not an expression of loyalty. {EOM} |
The Night Owl |
Jun-10-08 08:27 AM |
#159 |
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You're an excellent journalist. Thanks. |
iconicgnom |
Jun-09-08 11:33 PM |
#151 |
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How many surrogates are we talking about here? Oh, I see... |
The Night Owl |
Jun-09-08 11:38 PM |
#152 |
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Feinstein is a pretty big gun and she was an national TV. |
dailykoff |
Jun-10-08 12:51 AM |
#154 |
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I would be willing to bet that most Americans don't even know who... |
The Night Owl |
Jun-10-08 08:25 AM |
#158 |
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she did win the pop vote.....show me one person in Obama's inner circle that denies it |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jun-10-08 08:29 AM |
#160 |
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They don't care around here. |
Beacool |
Jun-10-08 08:48 AM |
#161 |
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