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97. I think obama
Edited on Fri Jun-06-08 03:06 PM by undergroundpanther
knows what an abuse of power is,and it's toxic effects on society culture and individual lives..

I think he knows colonization process is painful and wrong.

I think he has really good social skills.

I think he knows exactly what he is up against.

I think he also has a plan to stop the abuses.

He has a vision based in his understanding of how the world IS,and how it shouldn't be.

To some they might call that"light-work" or say Obama is an "enlightened being".

To me it says he sees the problem knows what is behind it's"mask" of sanity and he isn't going to let the abuses go un-accounted for. He is a person with an INNER locus of control,(a rare thing these days )He has a sense of what integrity MEANS to his own understanding and how it may effect the world,and he has a grasp of the meaning of CONTEXT when it concerns bad or good things for the country.He knows his limits. .He is a person who IS in touch with the suffering inside himself and all around himself,and he doesn't seem to hide in fantasy land or cynic land.Obama does not have the just world hypothesis operating in his mind or his actions(like many "light-workers" do without realizing it and how dangerous such beliefs can be when it comes to issues of justice) Obama isn't afraid to STAND UP ,speak out loud the pain he sees in others and feels for ,and say it skillfully against the colonialists,corporatist and bully thugs in this world and say no YOU don't..DO that ,it is wrong,abusive..

In other words he is intelligent so he THINKS,and he seems to have a empathy so he FEELS at the same time he experiences and he tries to understand it without cutting off one or the other or going into denial..

This makes him appear "enlightened"to some I guess.
But it's not enlightened, it is a deep awareness, of ones inner landscape,inner locus of control, will,passion,all coupled with the realistic assessment of the way the world is.

He isn't "enlightened" per se,he found his own inner locus of control and learned how to balance it. Obama knows deeply what his own intention and will is.It is important he use his intentions and will skillfully when he acts with power , to do it without abusing power,He becomes an anti colonization force through his own self awareness ,experiences and awareness of how the world is,and how it hurts.This way he can become a catalyst of change for the positive if he stays true to his will, and is magnified in the public sphere.It will be as is any trait can be magnified in a candidate who is in politics and using media to get his messages out there..Obama from what I see is wisely moving his will in a self aware way within a distrusting,cynical,hurting abused society living on a fractured dying planet.I think Obama can do alot of good changes if he keeps his inner locus of control tight with his will. I for one welcome these changes..
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  -Mark Morford: Is Obama an enlightened being? whereismyparty  Jun-06-08 09:23 AM   #0 
  - I have to admit I'm in awe of him, and I gave up hero worship of politicians decades ago  TexasObserver   Jun-06-08 09:24 AM   #1 
  - It's simply competence and synchronicity  MH1   Jun-07-08 10:51 AM   #133 
  - I'm so glad somebody finally said this out loud ! Thanks for posting !!  K Gardner   Jun-06-08 09:27 AM   #2 
  - Ditto!  genevat   Jun-06-08 10:41 AM   #37 
  - This gets it:  RUMMYisFROSTED   Jun-06-08 09:30 AM   #3 
  - I've been thinking along a similar line...  kentuck   Jun-06-08 09:30 AM   #4 
  - The common denominator is "hope."  GreenEyedLefty   Jun-06-08 09:48 AM   #5 
  - I don't believe in "enlightenment" and "hipper than thou" attention gurus  crankychatter   Jun-06-08 09:52 AM   #6 
  - Amen  ContinentalOp   Jun-06-08 10:37 AM   #32 
  - Perhaps some people responding to this post are unfamiliar with Morford's work. n/t  whereismyparty   Jun-06-08 07:23 PM   #112 
  - I'd be more apt to buy into this after he actually accomplished  The_Casual_Observer   Jun-06-08 09:53 AM   #7 
  - This Wasn't Just Any PRIMARY Election  otohara   Jun-06-08 11:04 AM   #48 
  - Uh, and people still wonder where the "cultist" label comes from?  uberblonde   Jun-06-08 10:03 AM   #8 
  - well, Obama makes NO such claims, that is the difference  itsjustme   Jun-06-08 10:14 AM   #15 
  - Yes, he is very charismatic and talented  EstimatedProphet   Jun-06-08 10:17 AM   #18 
     - what exactly do you think charisma is? It's those who light up a room. Some people  cryingshame   Jun-06-08 10:20 AM   #22 
        - And here all this time I thought charisma was an aspect of personality!  EstimatedProphet   Jun-06-08 10:24 AM   #25 
           - it is, now you've gotten the point. Huzzah! ANYONE can be an "Enlightened Being"  cryingshame   Jun-06-08 10:38 AM   #33 
              - Good! Then quit trying to call it "lightworker"!  EstimatedProphet   Jun-06-08 10:41 AM   #36 
                 - Definition of "lightworker"  MorningGlow   Jun-06-08 10:54 AM   #41 
                 - thanks Morning Glow, I'd like your little signature emoticon  cryingshame   Jun-06-08 10:58 AM   #44 
                    - Thanks!  MorningGlow   Jun-06-08 11:03 AM   #47 
                 - Light = consciousness  stellanoir   Jun-06-08 11:53 AM   #64 
  - Proud Member of The Cults of MLK, RFK, JFK, Jesus Christ  otohara   Jun-06-08 11:09 AM   #49 
  - He warned hopeless burned out hippies to click away, but you read it anyway.  kdpeters   Jun-06-08 12:25 PM   #66 
  - We already have the laying on of hands, and even Apostolic Succession!  QC   Jun-06-08 01:22 PM   #74 
  - I think the "cultist" label came from Hillary supporters.  Kool Kitty   Jun-06-08 02:21 PM   #92 
  - Interesting  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jun-06-08 10:05 AM   #9 
  - Obama exhibits the POSITIVE manifestation of Ego. He really does serve the Common Good  cryingshame   Jun-06-08 10:06 AM   #10 
  - Our culture is undergoing a massive shift, right here and now.  BullGooseLoony   Jun-06-08 10:07 AM   #11 
  - oh god no...  Teaser   Jun-06-08 10:08 AM   #12 
  - There's something to him...  Kristi1696   Jun-06-08 10:09 AM   #13 
  - Oh for God's sake this is ridiculous  EstimatedProphet   Jun-06-08 10:12 AM   #14 
  - I wholeheartedly agree, this is dangerous thinking seriously.  AuntPatsy   Jun-06-08 10:15 AM   #16 
  - Who said he was the second coming of christ? You missed the entire point  cryingshame   Jun-06-08 10:18 AM   #19 
  - No, you missed the entire point  EstimatedProphet   Jun-06-08 10:19 AM   #21 
  - there's nothing supernatural about charisma. There's nothing supernatural about those  cryingshame   Jun-06-08 10:24 AM   #26 
     - That's right. There isn't.  EstimatedProphet   Jun-06-08 10:35 AM   #31 
        - It is due to  votesomemore   Jun-06-08 11:31 AM   #58 
           - Light comes in a variety of frequencies  Bill McBlueState   Jun-06-08 01:32 PM   #82 
              - I know.  votesomemore   Jun-06-08 03:30 PM   #102 
  - I agree. We are all  H2O Man   Jun-07-08 07:08 AM   #119 
  - You Don't Know That  otohara   Jun-06-08 11:23 AM   #55 
  - No, you clearly don't understand what I am saying  EstimatedProphet   Jun-06-08 01:22 PM   #73 
     - It's Only 8 Years  otohara   Jun-06-08 02:52 PM   #96 
     - he may have an "enlightened" ego and by that I do not mean that he possesses  grantcart   Jun-07-08 03:42 AM   #116 
     - No, you don't understand what YOU are saying.  TexasObserver   Jun-07-08 10:41 AM   #130 
        - It is exactly what people are saying  EstimatedProphet   Jun-07-08 11:50 AM   #134 
           - Once again, you're tilting at straw men.  TexasObserver   Jun-07-08 11:55 AM   #135 
  - There's no reason he can't be considered at least as enlightened as the Dalai Lama  TexasObserver   Jun-07-08 10:31 AM   #129 
  - There are few things in this world I hate more than Castenada-style bullshit....  BlooInBloo   Jun-06-08 10:17 AM   #17 
  - How about charisma and talent? Isn't that enough?  EstimatedProphet   Jun-06-08 10:18 AM   #20 
     - In addition to the rest of his laundry-list of good qualities, yup.  BlooInBloo   Jun-06-08 10:21 AM   #23 
  - oh my.....this was too icky for me........ until.............  FredStembottom   Jun-06-08 10:21 AM   #24 
  - Basically, that is the heart of it.  kentuck   Jun-06-08 10:29 AM   #29 
  - An important distinction, Kentuck.  FredStembottom   Jun-06-08 10:50 AM   #38 
  - Bingo. Those who are icked-out need to re-read that part.  Shakespeare   Jun-06-08 11:23 AM   #54 
  - "spiritually advanced people" = "perilously hubristic woowoos"  asthmaticeog   Jun-06-08 10:25 AM   #27 
  - spiritually advanced people = people working for humanity's welfare  cryingshame   Jun-06-08 10:57 AM   #43 
  - seconded.  knixphan   Jun-06-08 10:58 AM   #45 
  - thirded n/t  MorningGlow   Jun-06-08 01:11 PM   #70 
  - Gazing into crystal balls and shuffling tarot cards helps humanity's welfare how?  asthmaticeog   Jun-06-08 11:39 AM   #62 
     - Who said anything about crystal balls or tarot cards?  MorningGlow   Jun-06-08 01:13 PM   #71 
        - I see a gooey new-age bullshit OP. How am I reaching?  asthmaticeog   Jun-06-08 01:24 PM   #75 
           - Well, that's just not nice  MorningGlow   Jun-06-08 02:09 PM   #86 
              - Or, you could climb aboard reality.  asthmaticeog   Jun-06-08 02:18 PM   #90 
                 - Okay, you know what? Not a productive discussion.  MorningGlow   Jun-06-08 03:17 PM   #99 
                    - Fine. Nice chattin'. Enjoy all the pretendin' you can have your cake and eat it too. nt  asthmaticeog   Jun-06-08 04:29 PM   #106 
  - A-motherfucking-MEN.  janesez   Jun-06-08 01:27 PM   #77 
  - can I recommend this post? n/t  blindpig   Jun-06-08 03:17 PM   #98 
  - I don't care what you call it or how you explain it - I like it! nt  tbyg52   Jun-06-08 10:28 AM   #28 
  - It isn't so much whether or not Obama is or is not like this...  info being   Jun-06-08 10:31 AM   #30 
  - Makes sense to me  MorningGlow   Jun-06-08 10:39 AM   #34 
  - I wish I could rec a post MG  classicfilmfan   Jun-06-08 11:39 AM   #61 
     - Thanks so much, CFF!  MorningGlow   Jun-06-08 11:50 AM   #63 
  - I'd be careful about such characterizations  iiibbb   Jun-06-08 10:41 AM   #35 
  - Nobody said "deify"  MorningGlow   Jun-06-08 10:52 AM   #40 
  - Obama is sooo NOT woo woo.  ContinentalOp   Jun-06-08 10:51 AM   #39 
  - I Believe He Is Special - Thanks In Part by His Feminist MOM  otohara   Jun-06-08 10:55 AM   #42 
  - the match is struck!  knixphan   Jun-06-08 10:59 AM   #46 
  - I usually despise new age stuff, but this is an exception!  anonymous171   Jun-06-08 11:10 AM   #50 
  - Enlightened? I don't know if I would call it that. But it does seem he has  harun   Jun-06-08 11:14 AM   #51 
  - Morford did add this caveat:  SalviaBlue   Jun-06-08 11:15 AM   #52 
  - K&R  48percenter   Jun-06-08 11:19 AM   #53 
  - "Lightworker"?? Dude, that's fucking woo-woo up the wazoo.  RandomKoolzip   Jun-06-08 11:25 AM   #56 
  - Sigh. Semantics.  MorningGlow   Jun-06-08 11:34 AM   #60 
     - The whole concept is woo-woo.  RandomKoolzip   Jun-06-08 12:34 PM   #67 
        - Really?  MorningGlow   Jun-06-08 01:08 PM   #69 
        - I'd call it a "compromise."  RandomKoolzip   Jun-06-08 01:26 PM   #76 
        - You hit the nail on the head RandomKoolzip -nt-  ContinentalOp   Jun-06-08 01:29 PM   #80 
        - And that's one of the problems with this country  MorningGlow   Jun-06-08 02:03 PM   #85 
        - No, but I would call that an offensive slap against all non-Christians...  Solon   Jun-06-08 01:27 PM   #78 
           - ...What?  MorningGlow   Jun-06-08 02:11 PM   #87 
              - Its the religious equivalent of using the phrase "How White of you."  Solon   Jun-06-08 02:13 PM   #88 
                 - I hope you understand that I didn't use it that way  MorningGlow   Jun-06-08 02:17 PM   #89 
                    - I think I understand, I disagree about Obama being a "lightbringer" however its defined...  Solon   Jun-06-08 02:46 PM   #95 
                    - your claim...  ContinentalOp   Jun-06-08 07:16 PM   #110 
        - Just because you can't see something  arikara   Jun-06-08 04:00 PM   #105 
           - Just because all facts, science, and empiricism dictate something's non-existence  RandomKoolzip   Jun-06-08 06:00 PM   #107 
           - Just because you believe in something doesn't mean it is there, too  EstimatedProphet   Jun-06-08 06:01 PM   #108 
              - Except when it comes to concepts.  Qutzupalotl   Jun-07-08 01:16 PM   #136 
  - Shows transparent  PATRICK   Jun-06-08 11:26 AM   #57 
  - Yes, he is a 'lightworker'.  undeterred   Jun-06-08 11:31 AM   #59 
  - This is just as terrifying -- maybe more -- as fundies thinking Bush was sent by God.  calmblueocean   Jun-06-08 12:12 PM   #65 
  - The term 'Enlightenment'  RichardRay   Jun-06-08 12:55 PM   #68 
  - Drugs are bad, mmmkay?  LeftyMom   Jun-06-08 01:17 PM   #72 
  - WTF? "Lightworker"? Is he an electrician?  janesez   Jun-06-08 01:28 PM   #79 
  - Obama is clearly a Subgenius  ContinentalOp   Jun-06-08 01:32 PM   #81 
  - But did Obama send in his $30? 'Cuz if not, he's still pink to "Bob."  asthmaticeog   Jun-06-08 01:39 PM   #83 
     - Evidence:  ContinentalOp   Jun-06-08 02:19 PM   #91 
        - I love it.  asthmaticeog   Jun-06-08 02:44 PM   #94 
        - I'm sure it's packed with the kind of shamanistic ethnobotanicals that lightworkers prefer.  ContinentalOp   Jun-06-08 03:44 PM   #104 
        - I have had my epiphany!  Book Lover   Jun-07-08 02:25 AM   #113 
        - Ack!  blogslut   Jun-07-08 03:25 AM   #115 
  - Enlightenment is like a box of chocolates  A-Schwarzenegger   Jun-06-08 01:39 PM   #84 
  - I think that there are people who are  madaboutharry   Jun-06-08 02:29 PM   #93 
  - I think obama  undergroundpanther   Jun-06-08 02:56 PM   #97 
  - It is truly fascinating to read the replies and comments  burythehatchet   Jun-06-08 03:21 PM   #100 
  - Your comment is funny...  ContinentalOp   Jun-06-08 03:41 PM   #103 
     - Of course. We each live in our own realities, after all.  burythehatchet   Jun-06-08 07:01 PM   #109 
  - Leave it to Morford to disturb a few crackpots n/t  dougkeenan   Jun-06-08 03:29 PM   #101 
  - I take it most of those responding to this post are unfamiliar with Morford's work.  whereismyparty   Jun-06-08 07:22 PM   #111 
  - Bookmarking thread for time capsule.  2rth2pwr   Jun-07-08 03:23 AM   #114 
  - Magical  NightOwwl   Jun-07-08 03:51 AM   #117 
  - Obama acts as a catalyst.  Kaleko   Jun-07-08 04:10 AM   #118 
  - This part concerns me...  kentuck   Jun-07-08 09:01 AM   #120 
  - That's Some Creepy Shit. Some People Need To Get A Grip.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jun-07-08 09:03 AM   #121 
  - Don't read Morford much, do you?  Shakespeare   Jun-07-08 10:23 AM   #127 
  - Seriously.. you are going to be dissapointed...  BigBluenoser   Jun-07-08 09:39 AM   #122 
  - Obama's not the Messiah, he's not Jesus,  Arkana   Jun-07-08 09:40 AM   #123 
  - Stop it. I'm still trying to accept CFC bulbs.  rug   Jun-07-08 09:42 AM   #124 
  - No  JoFerret   Jun-07-08 09:48 AM   #125 
  - how is this any different from the fundies believing Bush was working for God?  eShirl   Jun-07-08 10:14 AM   #126 
  - He's a good public speaker  OzarkDem   Jun-07-08 10:25 AM   #128 
  - Maybe he was an Indigo Child,  antfarm   Jun-07-08 10:44 AM   #131 
  - Obama is an enlightened being. The rub is in parsing what that means.  TexasObserver   Jun-07-08 10:49 AM   #132 

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