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Wed Jun-04-08 06:28 PM
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| 102. I would guess that no one here is qualified to diagnose mental illness at a distance either. |
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Edited on Wed Jun-04-08 06:29 PM by alarimer
ALL politicians are giant egomaniacs, even the great Lord OBama, the second coming of Christ. ALL politicians are ambitious; ALL are snake-oil salesman. And they are all on the take. Some only take campaign contributions but that is just legal corruption.
Sorry if I don't buy into all the adulation for the golden boy.
For the record, I never planned on voting for Clinton either.
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| -It's not Narcissism. |
Dr_eldritch |
Jun-04-08 12:48 PM |
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Narcissists are often very high achievers with a lot of discipline |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-04-08 12:50 PM |
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Exactly.. the two things are not mutually exclusive |
SoCalDem |
Jun-04-08 01:27 PM |
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Damn straight. God I love smart people. |
msallied |
Jun-04-08 01:39 PM |
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Did you catch the part where Hillary said , essentially, that's she's |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-04-08 02:35 PM |
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It is "Messianic". |
bvar22 |
Jun-04-08 06:24 PM |
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I'm sorry, I'm probably dating myself, here... |
impeachdubya |
Jun-04-08 08:16 PM |
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The link is broken. What can't I see? |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-04-08 10:09 PM |
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Burt from "Soap". nt |
impeachdubya |
Jun-04-08 10:43 PM |
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By your criteria, nearly all politicians exhibit NPD |
Dr_eldritch |
Jun-04-08 02:41 PM |
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A shrink friend of ours told us once that people with this type of "disorder" |
SoCalDem |
Jun-04-08 02:54 PM |
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Smarter people compensate better, too. They can go right under |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-04-08 02:56 PM |
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a) I agree about NPD and the professions |
Jackpine Radical |
Jun-04-08 03:44 PM |
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No, not all politicians exhibit NPD. Speaking of enabling, |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-04-08 02:55 PM |
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My middle son was diagnosed with it at 15 (even though the shrink said he was a bit young) |
SoCalDem |
Jun-04-08 03:58 PM |
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I knew we had something in common. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-04-08 05:33 PM |
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Six of one, half a dozen of the other... |
LanternWaste |
Jun-04-08 02:49 PM |
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Don't call us Frist until we show up on the Senate floor and call for a vote. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-04-08 03:01 PM |
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Hiya Pat. Your one of may fav's on DU! |
LanternWaste |
Jun-04-08 03:05 PM |
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Seriously, if you see me calling for a vote, please dial 911! |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-04-08 03:14 PM |
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Can't admit fault and leave a wake of chaos/destruction |
JNelson6563 |
Jun-04-08 03:46 PM |
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I think you have got this right... |
movonne |
Jun-04-08 12:50 PM |
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I think it is narcissism. She doesn't display any capacity for humiliation or awareness of her acti |
Diane R |
Jun-04-08 12:50 PM |
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Oh, I think it's narcissism. |
dchill |
Jun-04-08 12:51 PM |
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Her behavior is disrespectful and classless. She has no place on the ticket because of her actions |
Windy |
Jun-04-08 12:51 PM |
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Wow. Insightful. So where does the Democratic Party and people like us fit in this grand design? |
kenny blankenship |
Jun-04-08 12:51 PM |
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It's an admittedly fine line... |
Dr_eldritch |
Jun-04-08 01:10 PM |
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What you've described is the very definition of narcissism |
IWantAnyDem |
Jun-04-08 12:52 PM |
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Agreed, and very well-said. |
MrCoffee |
Jun-04-08 12:52 PM |
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It's not like a sporting even where one side gets a trophy, you high five at the end |
LisaM |
Jun-04-08 12:52 PM |
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That's not the point of the post |
Oddman |
Jun-04-08 01:02 PM |
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Well I guess I just disagree |
LisaM |
Jun-04-08 01:10 PM |
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The majority of candidates read the writing |
Oddman |
Jun-04-08 01:22 PM |
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"she's human".... bullshit... I want a DNA test. |
scheming daemons |
Jun-04-08 12:53 PM |
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If she's supposed to be a strong person why do people make excuses for her? |
DJ13 |
Jun-04-08 12:55 PM |
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Ding, ding, ding! DJ13 |
Mimosa |
Jun-04-08 02:35 PM |
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I didn't say she wasn't behaving poorly. I just think it's really silly |
Dr_eldritch |
Jun-04-08 02:43 PM |
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For her not to even get that last night was about Barack... |
polichick |
Jun-04-08 12:56 PM |
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If 'Rude'='Narcissist', then we all need meds. |
Dr_eldritch |
Jun-04-08 02:31 PM |
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Bush the lesser and Hillary have some things in common |
rebel with a cause |
Jun-04-08 02:51 PM |
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It's way beyond rude - she shows a lack of empathy... |
polichick |
Jun-04-08 03:08 PM |
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People who *lose* and yet feel "cheated" fucking suck. |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-04-08 12:56 PM |
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depends on the loss |
hfojvt |
Jun-04-08 01:24 PM |
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To check to cheap shots regarding the clinton campaign, all they need is a mirror & youtube |
SoCalDem |
Jun-04-08 01:29 PM |
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She's dealing near-fatal blows to herself imo. Hard to believe she |
babylonsister |
Jun-04-08 12:56 PM |
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THE mark of a narcissist is this: |
Triana |
Jun-04-08 12:58 PM |
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No, that's egocentrism. |
Dr_eldritch |
Jun-04-08 01:50 PM |
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split those hairs all you want. Lack of empathy is the defining one... |
Triana |
Jun-04-08 02:55 PM |
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"She's only human" and "it's narcissism" are mere excuses... |
Lucky 13 |
Jun-04-08 01:02 PM |
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Well, narcissists ARE human and their lack of empathy manifests as poor judgement... |
Triana |
Jun-04-08 01:05 PM |
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I agree and said about the same thing before |
rebel with a cause |
Jun-04-08 02:56 PM |
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She doesn't have a mental disorder. She has a personality disorder. |
msallied |
Jun-04-08 01:08 PM |
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Dear, your entire explanation of her behavior DEFINES narcissism. |
msallied |
Jun-04-08 01:05 PM |
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No. it's closer to Intrinsic egomaniacal frustration. |
Dr_eldritch |
Jun-04-08 01:23 PM |
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Now you're just splitting hairs. lol |
msallied |
Jun-04-08 01:33 PM |
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She may have ego issues, but it's not a disorder. It's not NPD. |
Dr_eldritch |
Jun-04-08 01:55 PM |
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No, she has another disorder. I've already said that. I don't agree she has NPD. |
msallied |
Jun-04-08 02:44 PM |
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Definitely NPD.... |
gorekerrydreamticket |
Jun-04-08 01:11 PM |
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No, it's more like APD. I firmly believe they just have |
msallied |
Jun-04-08 01:35 PM |
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She can grow a beard like Al Gore. |
Swamp Rat |
Jun-04-08 01:11 PM |
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haha |
beat tk |
Jun-04-08 01:26 PM |
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Please spare us the excuse. Most big boys and girls know they have to concede at the end. |
genna |
Jun-04-08 01:26 PM |
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Well put. I agree completely... |
msallied |
Jun-04-08 01:37 PM |
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It's "Hard Work." Where have I heard that line before? Hmmm |
Independent-Voter |
Jun-04-08 01:38 PM |
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She's an adult, there's an important election to win, this is self-absorbed and ridiculous. |
heraldsqure |
Jun-04-08 01:49 PM |
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*****Narcissistic Personality Disorder***** |
canadian_is_cold |
Jun-04-08 01:56 PM |
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No, she isn't. Those are your subjective interpretations... the same could be said of Obama. |
Dr_eldritch |
Jun-04-08 02:14 PM |
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Wow talk about not being objective. |
rebel with a cause |
Jun-04-08 03:03 PM |
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Wow, that went RIGHT over your head. Ummm.... here's a clue... |
Dr_eldritch |
Jun-04-08 07:49 PM |
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What can I say? If the evaluation criteria fits.... |
canadian_is_cold |
Jun-04-08 08:55 PM |
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YES. She is. n/t |
Triana |
Jun-04-08 02:55 PM |
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The sense of entitlement she has is a dead giveaway: NARCISSISM |
undeterred |
Jun-04-08 01:58 PM |
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Amazing.. she only needs 5 to be suspect, but she has all 9 .. eeek |
canadian_is_cold |
Jun-04-08 01:59 PM |
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Then how do you explain the sense of entitlement Obama the JUNIOR Senator must have? |
Dr_eldritch |
Jun-04-08 02:16 PM |
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I don't see a bit of arrogance or narcissism in him at all. |
undeterred |
Jun-04-08 02:41 PM |
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Right, and your subjective impression is all the clinical data anyone needs... |
Dr_eldritch |
Jun-04-08 03:00 PM |
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Where do you observe behavior that suggests a sense of entitlement? |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-04-08 03:03 PM |
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It's just a sense I get that she 'expected' to get the nomination. It was almost as if |
Dr_eldritch |
Jun-04-08 05:46 PM |
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Sorry. I thought you were referring to Obama. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-04-08 10:08 PM |
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ummmm... |
canadian_is_cold |
Jun-04-08 09:10 PM |
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lol. I was asking about Obama. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-04-08 10:08 PM |
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Er . . . isn't Hillary a "junior senator" as well |
janet118 |
Jun-04-08 05:26 PM |
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almost half of the votes |
Two Americas |
Jun-04-08 02:09 PM |
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George McGovern was the nominee... |
gorekerrydreamticket |
Jun-04-08 03:03 PM |
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incorrect |
Two Americas |
Jun-04-08 03:12 PM |
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Huh, people who have Narcissism |
rebel with a cause |
Jun-04-08 02:35 PM |
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No, it's a sick minded disorder. |
ShortnFiery |
Jun-04-08 02:36 PM |
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Horse-fucking-shit! |
MadHound |
Jun-04-08 02:38 PM |
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So many of you are just playing armchair psychologists and pitching out of your league. |
Dr_eldritch |
Jun-04-08 02:53 PM |
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I don't mean to make you "wrong" but, this is the thing. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-04-08 02:58 PM |
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Her behavior is wrong, you'll get no argument from me. But like I said, |
Dr_eldritch |
Jun-04-08 03:03 PM |
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I don't want to make any claim to a DX, but the stories are there. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-04-08 03:13 PM |
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I thought that every politician that ran for office could in fact be |
mdmc |
Jun-04-08 02:58 PM |
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Actually to say that she has a personality disorder |
rebel with a cause |
Jun-04-08 03:20 PM |
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Oh, there's a reason I put it that way. Let me ask you; |
Dr_eldritch |
Jun-04-08 03:45 PM |
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If I really believed she had a disorder and |
rebel with a cause |
Jun-04-08 04:17 PM |
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Who are you and what have you done with Dr_eldritch? |
Lilith Velkor |
Jun-04-08 04:28 PM |
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I'm Rational... as always. |
Dr_eldritch |
Jun-04-08 05:30 PM |
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Of course your right |
grantcart |
Jun-04-08 03:04 PM |
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"Forgiveness is easier to get than permission." - Yep. |
Dr_eldritch |
Jun-04-08 03:41 PM |
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If she wants to play with the boys, she's got to learn to take her loss like a man. |
Stephanie |
Jun-04-08 03:17 PM |
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Agreed. |
KC2 |
Jun-04-08 03:22 PM |
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well- are narcissists not also "human"? Or do we |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-04-08 03:44 PM |
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I agree she doesn't have a disorder. She just wanted this win more than anything. |
applegrove |
Jun-04-08 03:48 PM |
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The Clintons had their turn. Make no mistake, they are a team nt |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Jun-04-08 04:13 PM |
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So... all the other candidates who've failed before her and bowed out gracefully... |
redqueen |
Jun-04-08 04:30 PM |
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No, they were just more reasonable. Perhaps even more realistic. |
Dr_eldritch |
Jun-04-08 05:32 PM |
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She's pushy. |
redqueen |
Jun-04-08 05:36 PM |
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Can you imagine if a guy were acting this way? |
Dr_eldritch |
Jun-04-08 05:44 PM |
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Yeah. |
redqueen |
Jun-04-08 05:48 PM |
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I believe you are correct, sir! |
frickaline |
Jun-04-08 04:33 PM |
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Al Gore had to deal with this too. |
DeschutesRiver |
Jun-04-08 06:01 PM |
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I would guess that no one here is qualified to diagnose mental illness at a distance either. |
alarimer |
Jun-04-08 06:28 PM |
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Then you're voting forrrrrr........???? |
Dr_eldritch |
Jun-04-08 07:59 PM |
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I would say all of our Primary Candidates tend to be ambitious, hard workers, and planners. |
impeachdubya |
Jun-04-08 08:01 PM |
#105 |
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