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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 01:50 PM
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36. No, that's egocentrism.
Edited on Wed Jun-04-08 01:53 PM by Dr_eldritch
I've been going on memory, but what the hell. (here's a good list);

(Bold mine)

Someone who suffers from Narcissistic Personality disorder (NPD) has at least 5 of the following characteristics:

-has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements) -Possible, but that's too subjective a call for people who are upset with her... such as yourself.

-is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love -The narcissist fantasizes about and expects to be handed those things... she actually worked for it. That takes it out of the realm of fantasy

-believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions) This is possible, but the narcissist will show open disdain for 'ordinary folk'. Her actions prove that she has no such aversion.

-requires excessive admiration - assuming that her willingness to accept praise is a need for 'execssive admiration' would give every politician NPD

-has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations - it was not unreasonable for her to expect to win... in fact many people thought she would.

-is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends This also goes with the territory of politics, it's hard to quantify it in such a context without glaring examples

-lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others Possible, but this is a trait shared by many conditions and disorders

-is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her - Again, no outstanding examples

-shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes -Yeah... we've seen that, but again, that could be indicative of all sorts of things.

-Here are some more signs of Narcissistic Personality Disorder to look out for:

Jealousy and possessiveness - notsomuch

Excessive need to feel special, adored, loved, appreciated, or admired - nothing notably excessive

Rage attacks when you do not sufficiently meet his/her needs - no outstanding instances that I know of

Controlling behaviors (trying to control how you spend your time, who you talk to, how you dress, etc.) -We'd have to ask Chelsea and Bill, but no one has described this tendency in her

Inflated self-esteem, or grandiosity (bragging, "fishing" for compliments) -possibly, but haven't seen solid examples.

Dramatic, insecure behaviors -No solid examples

Expecting you to take responsibility for making him/her feel better about him/herself -again, we don't know

Blaming you for behaviors or feelings (i.e., "YOU made me do this," or "YOU made me feel this way.") -could indicate multiple conditions/disorders, no solid examples

Not taking responsibility for angry behavior and justifying angry outbursts -no solid examples

An attitude that demonstrates "the world revolves around me" and "you need to cater to my ideas, opinions, thoughts, and feelings." -the same could be said of Obama by his detractors

An unwillingness to reflect on his/her own behaviors
 -That I could agree with


http://www.narcissism101.com /

You see, the problem here is that most of the indications you think apply to her from your subjective viewpoint could just as easily apply to anyone, Obama included.

She just doesn't objectively meet enough of the criteria to conclude she has NPD.


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