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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 12:33 PM
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11. sour grapes?
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  -Obama is now sprinting to the Right as the GE has started itsrobert  Jun-04-08 12:29 PM   #0 
  - How so? I heard his speech and it was the same message he's had for months.  SoonerPride   Jun-04-08 12:30 PM   #1 
  - You have to kiss Israel's ass if you want to be a politician in America  anonymous171   Jun-04-08 12:30 PM   #2 
  - Never expected that, he is a centrist  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-04-08 12:30 PM   #3 
  - The media is so skewed to the right that a moderate/centrist is now labeled as  zbdent   Jun-04-08 12:45 PM   #26 
  - Yes, there is that, part of Clinton's gift to us  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-04-08 12:48 PM   #31 
     - That was always a BS talking point.  Radical Activist   Jun-04-08 12:58 PM   #41 
        - Sorry if I looked at voting records... sorry  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-04-08 01:11 PM   #46 
           - Obama has a very liberal voring record. You'll have to give examples.  Radical Activist   Jun-04-08 01:21 PM   #53 
           - Continued funding of the war in Iraq  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-04-08 01:40 PM   #63 
              - The war isn't going to end by cutting off funding.  Radical Activist   Jun-04-08 01:45 PM   #66 
           - Obama: 96% lifetime LCV rating. 96% lifetime AFL-CIO rating.  Radical Activist   Jun-04-08 01:24 PM   #56 
  - He has a solidly liberal record for his entire career.  Radical Activist   Jun-04-08 12:52 PM   #33 
  - I support the presumptive Democratic nominee  Goblinmonger   Jun-04-08 12:31 PM   #4 
  - I'm supporting him  itsrobert   Jun-04-08 12:32 PM   #8 
  - I don't care.  gateley   Jun-04-08 12:31 PM   #5 
  - did he actually run a (DU defined) progressive primary campaign?  wyldwolf   Jun-04-08 12:31 PM   #6 
  - Compared to Hillary's beer swilling, gun praising, latte trashing drive for white voters  JVS   Jun-04-08 12:33 PM   #12 
  - issue examples?  wyldwolf   Jun-04-08 12:35 PM   #15 
     - There aren't many  depakid   Jun-04-08 12:39 PM   #21 
        - #1 IWR. #2 Diplomacy  SoonerPride   Jun-04-08 12:42 PM   #24 
        - you're applying those in dubious manner in regards to Obama  wyldwolf   Jun-04-08 12:50 PM   #32 
        - Well, then you should be happy to support Obama.  SoonerPride   Jun-04-08 12:55 PM   #37 
           - I have stated several times I am, but that doesn't speak to the original point  wyldwolf   Jun-04-08 01:40 PM   #62 
        - You must not have been cognizant during the Clinton era  depakid   Jun-04-08 12:57 PM   #39 
           - Senator Clinton is not her husband, nor is her stance on engagement with foreign leaders  SoonerPride   Jun-04-08 12:59 PM   #42 
              - The Clintons are and always have been a team  depakid   Jun-04-08 01:14 PM   #48 
                 - except when it doesn't poll well  hokies4ever   Jun-04-08 01:21 PM   #54 
        - that's my point.  wyldwolf   Jun-04-08 12:47 PM   #29 
           - Your gal Hillary is finished. Her attempt to hold our party hostage is going to fail miserably.  hokies4ever   Jun-04-08 12:59 PM   #43 
              - The "hostage" meme  depakid   Jun-04-08 01:16 PM   #50 
              - Glad that you agree. She's still going to fail miserably.  hokies4ever   Jun-04-08 01:21 PM   #52 
                 - There are a lot of ways to use political pressure from ones delegates  depakid   Jun-04-08 01:31 PM   #58 
                    - Presidents don't become Presidents ceding power over on important decisions  hokies4ever   Jun-04-08 01:32 PM   #59 
                       - Doesn't sound like you've read much history  depakid   Jun-04-08 01:36 PM   #60 
                          - LOL! You just brought up JFK and LBJ? Let me educate you on this.  hokies4ever   Jun-04-08 01:48 PM   #68 
                             - Wow. You really haven't read much history or analysis (or perhaps, misunderstand it)  depakid   Jun-04-08 02:38 PM   #73 
              - I'm not attacking Obama - unless you consider pointing out simple facts "attacking."  wyldwolf   Jun-04-08 01:44 PM   #65 
  - 23!!! you're back!!  dionysus   Jun-04-08 01:08 PM   #45 
  - Oh Please!  donheld   Jun-04-08 12:31 PM   #7 
  - tick tick tick tick  BlooInBloo   Jun-04-08 12:32 PM   #9 
  - What...did he say he will obliterate Iran?  godai   Jun-04-08 12:33 PM   #10 
  - Good one!  InAbLuEsTaTe   Jun-04-08 01:15 PM   #49 
  - sour grapes?  spanone   Jun-04-08 12:33 PM   #11 
  - He told AIPAC he would sit down with Iran  sazemisery   Jun-04-08 12:33 PM   #13 
  - Wow.  rucky   Jun-04-08 02:23 PM   #71 
  - As long as Obama is to the left of McCain he gets my vote. Hopefully yours too.  Caution   Jun-04-08 12:34 PM   #14 
  - that's my only criteria  wyldwolf   Jun-04-08 12:36 PM   #19 
  - Well if hillary won she would have been my only criteria....  movonne   Jun-04-08 12:45 PM   #27 
  - Geoerge W. Bush Is To The Left Of McCain!  Better Believe It   Jun-04-08 12:45 PM   #28 
  - He didn't sabre rattle Iran the way Hillary did - he stressed diplomacy as he always does.  blm   Jun-04-08 12:35 PM   #16 
  - He said nothing to indicate that he is shifting to the right  Cali_Democrat   Jun-04-08 12:35 PM   #17 
  - Did you hear Clinton after him?  glowing   Jun-04-08 12:35 PM   #18 
  - lol  NatBurner   Jun-04-08 12:37 PM   #20 
  - OMG!!! He's campaigning to the center!  reflection   Jun-04-08 12:41 PM   #22 
  - Obama will act like a Centrist to win the election.  theoldman   Jun-04-08 12:41 PM   #23 
  - His handlers have got him this far ... I'm sure they will get him all  movonne   Jun-04-08 12:47 PM   #30 
  - With advisors like Sam Nunn and Jim Cooper and conversations with Colin Powell...nt  MookieWilson   Jun-04-08 12:44 PM   #25 
  - I heard his stance on Iran a long time ago ...  BearSquirrel2   Jun-04-08 12:52 PM   #34 
  - He said nothing he hasn't said so far. Zionophobes are annoying.  Occam Bandage   Jun-04-08 12:53 PM   #35 
  - He said that he supports Israel's strike on Syria last year  thewiseguy   Jun-04-08 12:58 PM   #40 
  - What did he say specifically that made you come to the conclusion  MrWiggles   Jun-04-08 12:54 PM   #36 
  - Your hitjob on Obama fell flat. Please try harder next time.  hokies4ever   Jun-04-08 12:57 PM   #38 
  - Obviously the talking points of today's Clinton Conference Call.....  AZBlue   Jun-04-08 01:03 PM   #44 
  - He'll never get further to the right than Hillary, that's for DAMN sure!  InAbLuEsTaTe   Jun-04-08 01:13 PM   #47 
  - It ain't no move  blindpig   Jun-04-08 01:20 PM   #51 
  - Obama said [random statement]  high density   Jun-04-08 01:22 PM   #55 
  - Getting it out of your system? Time is running out!  Endangered Specie   Jun-04-08 01:25 PM   #57 
  - Honest critque isn't against the rules? Is it?  itsrobert   Jun-04-08 02:18 PM   #69 
  - Is pledging to defend Israel running to the right? It's been our platform forever.  theboss   Jun-04-08 01:37 PM   #61 
  - First it was "Obama is too conservative." Then it was "he's too far left." Now we're back to "Obama  apocalypsehow   Jun-04-08 01:44 PM   #64 
  - Well, at least it's a longer run than Hillary would have to make.  Forkboy   Jun-04-08 01:48 PM   #67 
  - I expect a winning candidate  rucky   Jun-04-08 02:21 PM   #70 
  - An unfortunate political necessity from a man who's not going to needlessly "obliterate" Iran n/t  Catherina   Jun-04-08 02:23 PM   #72 

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