GirlinContempt
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Wed Jun-04-08 10:02 PM
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| 165. I'm sorry, that doesn't make sense. |
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If Clinton is demanding the VP slot and will not support him without it, it is she who is dividing the party. Obama has the right, and the OBLIGATION TO HIS VOTERS, to choose a VP that he is comfortable with and that he believes will do the best possible job with him. Period. If he is coerced in to a choice, he is breaking faith. If he chooses her of his own volition, fine. But if she refuses to fully back him and encourage support, that is HER fault.
I have no dog in this race, but it's just silly to blame someone for being divisive and not uniting the party because he doesn't cave to blackmail, if that should be the case.
Unless what you're suggesting is that people who support Hillary will not support the Democratic Candidate, the one she backs and supports. In which case, it seems lose-lose.
And, lesson in math for you: There is no such thing as a bigger half.
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 Obama cannot and will not win without full support from Hillary |
GoldieAZ49 |
Jun-03-08 03:33 PM |
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Are you angry? |
graywarrior |
Jun-03-08 03:34 PM |
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no, are you that Obama is dependent on Hillary? |
GoldieAZ49 |
Jun-03-08 03:36 PM |
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I'm pissed at Bush/McCain/Repuplicans/the state of the economy/the war/lack of health insurance/etc. |
graywarrior |
Jun-03-08 03:38 PM |
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So you're not upset that Obama needs Hillary then? Because a change of subject is not an answer. |
Hoof Hearted |
Jun-03-08 04:05 PM |
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What, you want to brow beat now? |
graywarrior |
Jun-03-08 04:21 PM |
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Strawman argument. First prove that Obama needs Hillary..... |
PoliticalAmazon |
Jun-03-08 05:31 PM |
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i doubt he truly needs her. the media haven't been right about |
roguevalley |
Jun-03-08 04:27 PM |
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He needs her supporters, not her specifically |
niceypoo |
Jun-03-08 06:11 PM |
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He doesn't need every single one of them. |
PassingFair |
Jun-04-08 12:54 AM |
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Bob Barr has changed things a lot. He will siphon off enough... |
PoliticalAmazon |
Jun-04-08 03:49 PM |
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Will if that gives you comfort... |
movonne |
Jun-03-08 09:16 PM |
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Jun-03-08 04:00 PM |
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Amen. Establishment Dems backstabbed Kerry and he won. RNC had to steal it for Bush. |
blm |
Jun-03-08 04:04 PM |
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Gore won, Kerry LOST! |
goldcanyonaz |
Jun-03-08 05:35 PM |
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Whatever. You just hate Kerry n/t |
politicasista |
Jun-03-08 05:55 PM |
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I sent him money for the recount in Ohio, I wanna know where my money went |
goldcanyonaz |
Jun-03-08 07:33 PM |
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Carville sabotaged Ohio Dem voters as TeamClinton undermined Kerry campaign for Bush. |
blm |
Jun-03-08 06:16 PM |
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bullshit. Ken Blackwell did Ohio, and you damn well know it. |
Mezzo |
Jun-04-08 12:18 AM |
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Carville called WH who then called Blackwell with Carville's tipoff and we all know it. |
blm |
Jun-04-08 09:50 AM |
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It was Carville's leaking of the Kerry Ohio team's plan to Mary Matalin |
MessiahRp |
Jun-04-08 03:29 PM |
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Are you arrogant? |
niceypoo |
Jun-03-08 06:10 PM |
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Yup. |
ronnykmarshall |
Jun-03-08 03:34 PM |
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Jun-03-08 03:38 PM |
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Wow! |
ronnykmarshall |
Jun-03-08 03:45 PM |
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LOL!!! |
GoldieAZ49 |
Jun-03-08 03:53 PM |
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Ain't it? |
ronnykmarshall |
Jun-03-08 04:12 PM |
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K&R |
cricket08 |
Jun-03-08 03:34 PM |
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Extortion? |
Blue-Jay |
Jun-03-08 03:35 PM |
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bwahahaha |
iamthebandfanman |
Jun-03-08 03:35 PM |
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I think he has enough support to win without her on the ticket |
IWantAnyDem |
Jun-03-08 03:35 PM |
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Why should he put her on the ticket? Harriet said she still won't vote for him |
BrentTaylor |
Jun-03-08 03:36 PM |
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“the larger half.”? |
LowerManhattanite |
Jun-03-08 03:36 PM |
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You kinda beat me to it |
Goblinmonger |
Jun-03-08 03:54 PM |
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She does not have the "Larger" anything..... |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-03-08 03:36 PM |
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Hmm, I don't know about that. |
papapi |
Jun-03-08 03:37 PM |
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(Stranger slowly backs away from post header...) |
americanstranger |
Jun-03-08 03:38 PM |
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This springs to mind... |
BushDespiser12 |
Jun-03-08 03:42 PM |
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Sir Mix-a-lot comes to mind... |
Cooley Hurd |
Jun-03-08 04:10 PM |
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Jun-03-08 03:59 PM |
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the larger debt |
JVS |
Jun-03-08 04:02 PM |
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Your post was hilarious. You are the first person I saw on DU pull out the |
acmavm |
Jun-03-08 06:02 PM |
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Amen, Frenchiecat... |
jonestonesusa |
Jun-04-08 12:35 AM |
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7 more days. |
thewiseguy |
Jun-03-08 03:36 PM |
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He's the kind of unifier that actually understands what is needed to win..... |
scheming daemons |
Jun-03-08 03:36 PM |
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He would wreck his entire theme of change by putting "the same" on the VP slot. |
Selatius |
Jun-03-08 03:37 PM |
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"The same" as whom? |
Lilith Velkor |
Jun-03-08 05:24 PM |
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False Logic - she does not have more votes than Obama. |
Kittycat |
Jun-03-08 03:37 PM |
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I think she is bad for the Democratic Party in any position.... |
PoliticalAmazon |
Jun-03-08 05:33 PM |
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nope. |
Growler |
Jun-03-08 03:37 PM |
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See ya |
BlueJac |
Jun-03-08 03:37 PM |
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the sheer arrogance and selfishness inherent in that fact apalls me |
crankychatter |
Jun-03-08 03:37 PM |
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Amen. She's the one that needs to show some grace and maturity and fully |
grace0418 |
Jun-03-08 04:01 PM |
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I love how your post is essentially to diminish him, even though he's the victor. |
wienerdoggie |
Jun-03-08 03:38 PM |
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Says who, you? And NOW you care about unity? |
babylonsister |
Jun-03-08 03:38 PM |
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Pretty much black mail him huh. |
OhioBlues |
Jun-03-08 03:38 PM |
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BS |
WA98296 |
Jun-03-08 03:39 PM |
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Ditto. |
snappyturtle |
Jun-03-08 07:35 PM |
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YES HE CAN!! |
TexasObserver |
Jun-03-08 03:39 PM |
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Been using a bit too much crystal lately? |
papapi |
Jun-03-08 03:39 PM |
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You still believe that half the Dem party is going to desert for Hillary? |
americanstranger |
Jun-03-08 03:40 PM |
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Why would Clinton want to be VP for a guy not qualified to be Commander-in-Chief? |
last_texas_dem |
Jun-03-08 03:40 PM |
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Meh. No. EOM |
lojasmo |
Jun-03-08 03:40 PM |
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Does this mean if he loses it is her fault for not being a good Democrat? |
Gore1FL |
Jun-03-08 03:41 PM |
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Bullies never really win.. neither will she. |
K Gardner |
Jun-03-08 03:41 PM |
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Blackmail against the black male. |
48percenter |
Jun-03-08 03:42 PM |
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I have a great idea... |
yourguide |
Jun-03-08 03:42 PM |
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Bullshit. But thanks for playing. |
truebrit71 |
Jun-03-08 03:44 PM |
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Okay, so here are your choices |
Fighting Irish |
Jun-03-08 03:44 PM |
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Another delusional poster on Hillary's behalf |
spokane |
Jun-03-08 03:45 PM |
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More Hostage Holding |
NeedleCast |
Jun-03-08 03:46 PM |
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2000 DLC VP Lieberman; 2008 DLC VP Clinton |
Swamp Rat |
Jun-03-08 03:46 PM |
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Love the lapel pin! |
tabasco |
Jun-03-08 05:52 PM |
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LOL! |
Swamp Rat |
Jun-03-08 06:35 PM |
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Good point. |
Beacool |
Jun-03-08 03:47 PM |
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Why bother to watch? |
jonestonesusa |
Jun-04-08 12:45 AM |
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It seems there are many Democrats that feel Obama cannot win without full support from Hillary |
Maribelle |
Jun-03-08 03:48 PM |
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Her supporters will be his supporters - regardless |
thevoiceofreason |
Jun-03-08 03:49 PM |
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Actually, no. He'll win even though she's campaigning for McCain. nt |
TheWraith |
Jun-03-08 03:51 PM |
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no bloody way he can govern |
Brundle_Fly |
Jun-03-08 03:51 PM |
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Your premise is PATHETIC. |
datopbanana |
Jun-03-08 03:53 PM |
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Yea. Good points as usual Goldie......Just wait though if |
cboy4 |
Jun-03-08 04:01 PM |
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Why don't you be the unifier you want Obama to be and stop making divisive threads? |
malik flavors |
Jun-03-08 04:01 PM |
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He does not HAVE to have her |
LibraLiz1973 |
Jun-03-08 07:08 PM |
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Maybe he can and maybe he can't |
JVS |
Jun-03-08 04:03 PM |
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Oh, yes he can. And why would he need the Obliterater on his ticket? |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-03-08 04:05 PM |
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Your (and her) threats are worthless... you won't vote for McCain.... |
scheming daemons |
Jun-03-08 04:05 PM |
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I agree with your headline |
JerseygirlCT |
Jun-03-08 04:05 PM |
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While I would love for Hillary to spend the next 8 years hiding in an undisclosed location ... |
ieoeja |
Jun-03-08 04:06 PM |
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What about McCainbots? |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Jun-03-08 04:07 PM |
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It doesn't actually work like that. Sorry. |
smoogatz |
Jun-03-08 04:08 PM |
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yes this latest Hillary spinning top con job |
WIllo |
Jun-03-08 04:08 PM |
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either Obama wins or we send more of America's youth to a meat grinder for another 8 years |
dcindian |
Jun-03-08 04:19 PM |
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President McW equals draft within 2 years, and endless war on Terra, the facts as I see them. |
DB1 |
Jun-03-08 04:26 PM |
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The sooner you realize that she never had the popular vote the better. eom |
smiley_glad_hands |
Jun-03-08 04:28 PM |
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You declared you are voting for McCain if Obama gets the nod, period. You change your mind? |
Doityourself |
Jun-03-08 04:29 PM |
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I like cheese. |
Lerkfish |
Jun-03-08 04:31 PM |
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Cuz Hillary's full support for Hillary did her so much good... |
jgraz |
Jun-03-08 04:31 PM |
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Sorry... I have to hide your thread... |
Juniperx |
Jun-03-08 04:34 PM |
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I will not be threatened, and neither will Obama. |
Political Heretic |
Jun-03-08 04:34 PM |
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oh, give it a rest. |
iconicgnom |
Jun-03-08 04:37 PM |
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"she has half of the votes, the larger half." False |
mystieus |
Jun-03-08 04:37 PM |
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A picture is worth a thousand words... |
Junkdrawer |
Jun-03-08 04:37 PM |
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Great cartoon! |
tabasco |
Jun-03-08 06:09 PM |
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Thats what I'm thinking. |
D23MIURG23 |
Jun-04-08 12:17 AM |
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No more Clintonian HIJACKING of OUR PARTY. They're done. Stick a fork in them. eom |
ShortnFiery |
Jun-03-08 04:38 PM |
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I agree...no more Hillary, please... |
jonestonesusa |
Jun-04-08 12:53 AM |
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K&R! |
indimuse |
Jun-03-08 04:39 PM |
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I hear that |
GoldieAZ49 |
Jun-03-08 04:43 PM |
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So, if Hillary is the VP then you change your mind from McCain to Obama huh.. |
Doityourself |
Jun-03-08 05:35 PM |
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Just walked by my TV-- it's all Bill Clinton - Vanity Fair, still. Need we say more? |
chill_wind |
Jun-03-08 04:49 PM |
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Raving fanatics cannot be "unified." |
Xap |
Jun-03-08 04:56 PM |
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Oh shut up. Obama will do what is best for his campaign and if it means taking Hillary |
book_worm |
Jun-03-08 05:25 PM |
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"she has half of the votes, the larger half" |
redqueen |
Jun-03-08 05:34 PM |
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Bullshit |
shadowknows69 |
Jun-03-08 05:35 PM |
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Well, you know what...She could not win even with his support. |
WA98296 |
Jun-03-08 05:36 PM |
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. |
izzybeans |
Jun-03-08 05:37 PM |
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more BS from Clinton supporters |
democracy1st |
Jun-03-08 05:38 PM |
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Se has alienated many of her former supporters, so she doesn't have 17 M supporters |
heraldsqure |
Jun-03-08 05:38 PM |
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LOL, larger half! |
billyoc |
Jun-03-08 05:39 PM |
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Can't you just be gracious? She lost. Maybe she'll be VP, maybe not. Just deal with it. () |
weezie1317 |
Jun-03-08 05:39 PM |
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GRACIOUS????? Look at their idol, a classless, graceless, self-obsessed, uninspiring |
burythehatchet |
Jun-03-08 06:02 PM |
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Hey, we are not talking about Michelle |
GoldieAZ49 |
Jun-03-08 08:15 PM |
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I was talking about the recurring hemorrhoid that is Hillary |
burythehatchet |
Jun-03-08 09:08 PM |
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You were talking about yourself, and I couldn't agree more. |
Tactical Progressive |
Jun-04-08 12:45 AM |
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LOL! That does sound like the perfect description of Michelle Obama |
Tactical Progressive |
Jun-04-08 12:43 AM |
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Care to elaborate? |
Mooney |
Jun-04-08 03:42 PM |
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Hmmm.... |
Mooney |
Jun-04-08 03:41 PM |
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Uniting the party is important, but not as important as winning the election |
texastoast |
Jun-03-08 05:40 PM |
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Please, get some rest. |
TBF |
Jun-03-08 05:56 PM |
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Good thing, she'll get behind him then |
sniffa |
Jun-03-08 05:57 PM |
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Hillary Is Irrelevent After Tonight |
JimGinPA |
Jun-03-08 05:58 PM |
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My left butt cheek also claims it is the larger half. |
burythehatchet |
Jun-03-08 05:59 PM |
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I think that you will find.... |
canadian_is_cold |
Jun-03-08 06:13 PM |
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Shit. Is this the way it's gonna be? |
Labors of Hercules |
Jun-03-08 06:18 PM |
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He doesn't need her! NO NEO CONS ON THE DEMOCRATIC TICKET. |
votesomemore |
Jun-03-08 06:20 PM |
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Sure he can. |
Lugnut |
Jun-03-08 06:21 PM |
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NO to HRC! Obama doesn't need a VP hanging around hoping for something bad to happen to him...nt |
texas_indy |
Jun-03-08 06:24 PM |
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She has as many votes as she does because: |
NightOwwl |
Jun-03-08 06:25 PM |
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He's not going to give in to extortion. And it's grotesque the way Hillary |
Crunchy Frog |
Jun-03-08 06:47 PM |
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You are right |
rodeodance |
Jun-03-08 06:50 PM |
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She already promised the nominee her full support. |
Orsino |
Jun-03-08 07:09 PM |
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Unlike a war |
intaglio |
Jun-03-08 07:23 PM |
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She already said she would endorse and support him, she expects you to do the same |
SoonerPride |
Jun-03-08 07:34 PM |
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It is our election to win.. |
stillcool47 |
Jun-03-08 07:36 PM |
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Big Feminist Gal Hill, now wants to trot around following on Barack's |
DogPoundPup |
Jun-03-08 07:40 PM |
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So her "support" is contingent upon getting the VP slot? |
slutticus |
Jun-03-08 08:18 PM |
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...we will see if hillary can shut her husband`s mouth |
madrchsod |
Jun-03-08 08:29 PM |
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If I really had any say so in it.. I would advise NO.. |
peacetrain |
Jun-03-08 08:36 PM |
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Wrong |
NeedleCast |
Jun-04-08 12:19 AM |
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Fucking watch him win without Clinton. |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-04-08 12:20 AM |
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Oh, yes he can! |
ClayZ |
Jun-04-08 12:21 AM |
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where is hide thread when you need it? |
mcctatas |
Jun-04-08 12:22 AM |
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Please, no shotgun marriage. |
pnwmom |
Jun-04-08 12:47 AM |
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hillary chose not to unite at every turn. tkaes balls to demand more and more from obama |
seabeyond |
Jun-04-08 12:49 AM |
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Hillary did not win the "bigger half" . You cant count MI and be credible. |
Think82 |
Jun-04-08 12:50 AM |
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Seven days. And counting. |
Ikonoklast |
Jun-04-08 12:54 AM |
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Actually, he's against McSame and the same old tired Republican agenda |
mrone2 |
Jun-04-08 09:48 AM |
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Maybe. Maybe not. What will you do if he doesn't pick Hillary? |
Left coast liberal |
Jun-04-08 03:41 PM |
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Yes, he can. |
Zavulon |
Jun-04-08 03:42 PM |
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Four more years of Bush/McCain policies excite you much? |
NotThisTime |
Jun-04-08 03:43 PM |
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I disagree, and I find it odd that you think the effort to unify only goes one way. |
heraldsqure |
Jun-04-08 03:45 PM |
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Hostage taking behavior. It's unseemly. |
Crunchy Frog |
Jun-04-08 03:53 PM |
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oh stuff a sock in it. Hillary is NOBODY. she can't even get her own party's nomination |
ima_sinnic |
Jun-04-08 03:55 PM |
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80% of her supporters will move on before the end of the week |
IWantAnyDem |
Jun-04-08 03:55 PM |
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I agree. |
Andy823 |
Jun-04-08 03:58 PM |
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I'm sorry, that doesn't make sense. |
GirlinContempt |
Jun-04-08 10:02 PM |
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