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46. Character is what you do when no one is looking.
A man of character would've quit that church - or tried to change it - years ago.
Quitting after the public spotlight illuminates the issue shows a lack of character.
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  Profile In Courage: Obama Abandons His Longtime Church For Political Convenience BobbyVan  Jun-01-08 11:16 AM   #0 
   Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't  Higher Standard   Jun-01-08 11:17 AM   #1 
   Yep, I agree. A tragedy. nt  JenniferZ   Jun-01-08 11:19 AM   #2 
   He looks like a guy who can be pushed around.  BobbyVan   Jun-01-08 11:19 AM   #3 
   Give away the store??? Already been done or haven't you been  4MoronicYears   Jun-01-08 11:25 AM   #17 
      yup he kicked his church under the bus now--for his political dreams. tsk tsk  rodeodance   Jun-01-08 11:30 AM   #24 
      At least he didn't throw them.  anigbrowl   Jun-01-08 03:45 PM   #83 
      I guess you want more of the same huh?  BobbyVan   Jun-01-08 11:40 AM   #28 
      I want change......  4MoronicYears   Jun-01-08 11:44 AM   #37 
      That "give away the store" business is a freeper meme, which tells you something about the OP. n/t.  apocalypsehow   Jun-01-08 03:07 PM   #78 
         Yep..the mindset that sees America and Americans as commodities to be bought and sold. Good catch.  anigbrowl   Jun-01-08 03:44 PM   #81 
   Yup.  No Surrender   Jun-01-08 11:23 AM   #11 
   He put himself in this position  PurityOfEssence   Jun-01-08 02:19 PM   #60 
   With that rhetoric going on...and attituded in that church he should have left 19yrs 11 months ago  Rene   Jun-01-08 09:54 PM   #101 
   exactly.  TexasLady   Jun-01-08 10:10 PM   #103 
   So you think that is all the church preached?  azmouse   Jun-01-08 11:20 AM   #4 
   its a pattern.  rodeodance   Jun-01-08 11:25 AM   #16 
      Hillary has a pattern of Lies, I guess that makes her a liar!  Heather MC   Jun-01-08 11:53 AM   #44 
         You too....  guruoo   Jun-01-08 02:56 PM   #74 
   Your post (s): PROFILE IN DELUSIONAL DENIAL that your candidate LOST.  K Gardner   Jun-01-08 11:20 AM   #5 
   Obama let the media run him out of his own church -- how Presidential!  BobbyVan   Jun-01-08 11:22 AM   #8 
      At least he knew when it was time to go...  azmouse   Jun-01-08 11:25 AM   #15 
      LOL !  K Gardner   Jun-01-08 11:26 AM   #18 
      Ever think that maybe, just maybe  arikara   Jun-01-08 02:14 PM   #58 
      As if the context would make those sound bites better  BobbyVan   Jun-01-08 07:54 PM   #93 
      Hillary and people like YOU focusing on a group of people trying to worship  ecdab   Jun-01-08 02:42 PM   #69 
      or just maybe he was giving those poor church people a break  TexasLady   Jun-01-08 10:12 PM   #104 
   He did it because you people were harrassing his church and its members.  dkf   Jun-01-08 11:20 AM   #6 
   oh Puff!! ha ha. so obama suckered you into believeing that lie.  rodeodance   Jun-01-08 11:28 AM   #20 
      C'mon...you people are taping every freaking sermon that goes on in the church  dkf   Jun-01-08 11:40 AM   #29 
      He didn't quit to save his church -- he quit to save his own hide  BobbyVan   Jun-01-08 11:41 AM   #31 
      He did it because every person who speaks there is now getting scrutinized  dkf   Jun-01-08 12:12 PM   #48 
      you are projecting your own motives on someone else-  Bluerthanblue   Jun-01-08 02:38 PM   #65 
         Why else would you leave your church of 20 years in the height of the political season?  BobbyVan   Jun-01-08 07:45 PM   #90 
      LOL  MonkeyFunk   Jun-01-08 02:59 PM   #75 
      Still waiting for that answer on Bill Donohue  MrRobotsHolyOrders   Jun-01-08 03:45 PM   #82 
   Obama the wimp!  leftofcool   Jun-01-08 11:21 AM   #7 
   "Anti-American rhetoric?" I think YOUR rhetoric is anti-American. nt  Kahuna   Jun-01-08 11:22 AM   #9 
   Goddamn America?  BobbyVan   Jun-01-08 11:37 AM   #26 
      It's God Damn America  Cant trust em   Jun-01-08 11:41 AM   #32 
      Oh yeah, that's much better  BobbyVan   Jun-01-08 11:42 AM   #34 
      It's clearly a big difference.  Cant trust em   Jun-01-08 11:45 AM   #38 
      go read the sermon in its entirety- the relevancy will  Bluerthanblue   Jun-01-08 02:47 PM   #72 
      Riiiight!  Kahuna   Jun-01-08 11:52 AM   #43 
      You're right  muryan   Jun-01-08 02:24 PM   #62 
      reality sucks, doesn't it?  stillcool47   Jun-01-08 08:43 PM   #96 
   Let's look at a couple of the things that has gotten him into trouble re:TUCC  Cant trust em   Jun-01-08 11:23 AM   #10 
   That's right, when the going gets tough, Obama gets going  BobbyVan   Jun-01-08 11:39 AM   #27 
   It is a Profile in political calculation ONLY. what a stupid headline!  rodeodance   Jun-01-08 11:24 AM   #12 
   What a weak display of acting.  anigbrowl   Jun-01-08 03:47 PM   #85 
   I knew that's how the Republicans would spin it.  parasim   Jun-01-08 11:25 AM   #13 
   Most can see through that empty excuse!!  rodeodance   Jun-01-08 11:26 AM   #19 
   "hateful, racist, anti-American rhetoric"  madrchsod   Jun-01-08 11:25 AM   #14 
   I had to leave a church once I loved  Jake3463   Jun-01-08 11:29 AM   #21 
   You did the right thing.  amandabeech   Jun-01-08 03:42 PM   #79 
   Do you realize that reporters  RazBerryBeret   Jun-01-08 11:29 AM   #22 
   obama brought his church into the political scene when he assigned Wright to his campaign. Its open  rodeodance   Jun-01-08 11:55 AM   #47 
      Jeremiah Wright left the Obama  RazBerryBeret   Jun-01-08 01:20 PM   #50 
   Just order the McCain yard signs and get it the fuck over with  Catch22Dem   Jun-01-08 11:29 AM   #23 
   Profile is ignored. Bye Bye  jhuth   Jun-01-08 11:34 AM   #25 
   Obama is our nominee. Deal with it.  Katzenkavalier   Jun-01-08 11:40 AM   #30 
   If he wraps it up, I'll support him  BobbyVan   Jun-01-08 11:42 AM   #33 
      Let's unite, Bobby.  Katzenkavalier   Jun-01-08 11:46 AM   #41 
         We will in the end, behind either Clinton or Obama  BobbyVan   Jun-01-08 07:48 PM   #91 
   I'd say that's between him and God and none of your fucking business.  Liberal Veteran   Jun-01-08 11:42 AM   #35 
   Concise and to the point.....I agree 100%......  Rowdyboy   Jun-01-08 01:26 PM   #51 
   Okay, first you fake-outragemeisters demand he leave his church...  Fighting Irish   Jun-01-08 11:44 AM   #36 
   You are too cynical for you're own good. Not everything in life is done for political reasons.  IsItJustMe   Jun-01-08 11:46 AM   #39 
   Obama did it to save his own skin --he never mentioned the safety of Trinity as a reason for leaving  BobbyVan   Jun-01-08 05:35 PM   #89 
   Religion is a private matter  gort   Jun-01-08 11:46 AM   #40 
   OMG REVERSE RACISM!11!11  yibbehobba   Jun-01-08 11:51 AM   #42 
   don't you love the smell of sour grapes in the morning?  bowens43   Jun-01-08 11:54 AM   #45 
   Character is what you do when no one is looking.  MethuenProgressive   Jun-01-08 11:54 AM   #46 
   Your post shows a lack of intellectual honesty...So?  cliffordu   Jun-01-08 02:01 PM   #57 
   indeed it does- it also involves  Bluerthanblue   Jun-01-08 02:45 PM   #70 
   And if he'd stayed, you fuckwits would have been bitching about THAT too  Cheap_Trick   Jun-01-08 12:13 PM   #49 
   for some reason, lately they've been HIGHLIGHTING those views Obama has said he found objectionable  cloudythescribbler   Jun-01-08 01:26 PM   #52 
   Are you a republican?  bow-tie   Jun-01-08 01:37 PM   #53 
   The way I see it,  NOLALady   Jun-01-08 01:46 PM   #54 
   Do YOU still go to church?  Turn CO Blue   Jun-01-08 01:56 PM   #55 
   /ignore  4_Legs_Good   Jun-01-08 01:57 PM   #56 
   Religion - or no religion - should be a personal matter.  Vinca   Jun-01-08 02:18 PM   #59 
   Political Rhetoric is not courage  GoldieAZ49   Jun-01-08 02:22 PM   #61 
   Well, it's not courageous like dodging sniper fire...  swishyfeet   Jun-01-08 02:46 PM   #71 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-01-08 02:33 PM   #63 
   too bad for you. your lectures suck as he is not the nominee.  rodeodance   Jun-01-08 03:01 PM   #76 
   "hateful, racist, anti-American rhetoric"- that is a pretty good label  Bluerthanblue   Jun-01-08 02:36 PM   #64 
   That's it. Get it out of your system because it will be a dead issue in a few weeks.  kwenu   Jun-01-08 02:39 PM   #66 
   Profile in Hypocrisy: HRC supporters demand Obama leave his "hate church" then call him a coward for  anonymous171   Jun-01-08 02:39 PM   #67 
   Geez, Obama let people hound him out of his own church!  BobbyVan   Jun-01-08 07:50 PM   #92 
   He's fooling no one. I resent his decision. But it'll stop this from being as much an issue later.  PseudoIntellect   Jun-01-08 02:39 PM   #68 
   Hillary's done. Get over it.  guruoo   Jun-01-08 02:52 PM   #73 
   Hillary abandon more important principals than that when  Hansel   Jun-01-08 03:03 PM   #77 
   Clinton Lost. Move On.  berni_mccoy   Jun-01-08 03:43 PM   #80 
   You understand the OP's motivation perfectly!  GoesTo11   Jun-01-08 09:25 PM   #99 
   You better hurry and post more like this. In a couple of days you will have your own head stone..  Bensthename   Jun-01-08 03:47 PM   #84 
   People have been stalking members of Trinity United for months.  SanchoPanza   Jun-01-08 03:50 PM   #86 
   FAIL +1  uponit7771   Jun-01-08 04:11 PM   #87 
   I see....perhaps he should have offered to nuke Trinty United into the Stone Age  FredScuttle   Jun-01-08 04:27 PM   #88 
   How many assholes can I have in my ignore list?  MindMatter   Jun-01-08 08:29 PM   #94 
   Fyck Uou!!!  Dawgs   Jun-01-08 08:33 PM   #95 
   he left the church to save the death threats against them.  Whisp   Jun-01-08 08:55 PM   #97 
   BS ! It is a CHURCH !! They don't deserve to be scrutinized constantly by the RIGHT WING to tear  RBInMaine   Jun-01-08 08:59 PM   #98 
   Political convenience was not WHY he chose to leave  Tippy   Jun-01-08 09:53 PM   #100 
   R-r-r-r-ight... I'll just pretend Obama didn't say it was because of a "cultural and stylistic gap"  BobbyVan   Jun-02-08 08:56 AM   #107 
   Warning warning: another newbie who suspiciously bursts thru the gate w/negativitity.  indie_ana_500   Jun-01-08 09:57 PM   #102 
   Rush approves of this message  TexasLady   Jun-01-08 10:24 PM   #105 
   He did the right thing.  Elspeth   Jun-01-08 10:26 PM   #106 
   "I can no more disown...."  BigDDem   Jun-02-08 09:42 AM   #108 
   and Hillary Clinton  darboy   Jun-02-08 10:04 AM   #109 
   I don't think he should have quit the church he belonged to TWENTY YEARS  Mezzo   Jun-02-08 10:29 AM   #110 
   As a member of this church for 20-years..........  GoldenOldie   Jun-02-08 11:29 AM   #113 
   FLASH: Obama Quits His Church  FlaGranny   Jun-02-08 11:15 AM   #111 
   Nobody believes Obama when it comes to Trinity....  cricket08   Jun-02-08 11:24 AM   #112 
 

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