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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:02 PM
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18. I don't see how Texas could possibly be a setback for Obama
It showed he was one hell of a smart guy who put together a truly savvy campaign team that didn't rely on dirty tricks and cheap shots. They were able to win by understanding the rules and then putting together strategies to win BY THE RULES. That is exactly what happened in Texas. I'm not sure if Hillary, even today, understands how crushing her Texas defeat was. Remember, that was to have been the grand comeback in PA and TX, and instead that played that week to a draw.

Once that happened, she had no more legitimate paths to the nomination. Her money dried up. That was right about the time she started going deeply in debt. And without any possibility of a legitimate delegate victory, she had to start relying on all the bogus arguments.

If we had to pick a moment when the deal was clinched, I'd say it was Texas. Obama has built a nice lead with the string of victories after Super Tuesday. But if Hillary had been able to win Texas convincingly and maybe another 5-10 points in OH and PA, she would be in the running now.

A candidate with any vision and character would have gracefully bowed out after Texas. She has neither. We were wise not to nominate her for the job.
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  -A Chuck Todd Simulation: What if FL & MI had voted after March 4? DemsUnited  Jun-01-08 08:07 AM   #0 
  - That's why they tried to move as far up as possible in the first place...  ellisonz   Jun-01-08 08:10 AM   #1 
  - The only way to solve name ID problem is a single primary election day for all 50 states,  DemsUnited   Jun-01-08 08:14 AM   #5 
     - That would only make the problem worse...  ellisonz   Jun-01-08 08:18 AM   #6 
     - Ah, I see your point and it definitely is a good one. nt.  DemsUnited   Jun-01-08 08:29 AM   #9 
        - You may be...  ellisonz   Jun-01-08 08:36 AM   #12 
     - That actually exacerbates the problem. nt  RUMMYisFROSTED   Jun-01-08 08:22 AM   #7 
     - As much as that sounds neat and clean, it wouldn't work!  napi21   Jun-01-08 08:30 AM   #10 
        - very true and excellent point. nt.  DemsUnited   Jun-01-08 08:32 AM   #11 
  - I watched the whole damn meeting  boobooday   Jun-01-08 08:12 AM   #2 
  - I believed in my party rules and didn't vote in the Florida Primary  trumad   Jun-01-08 08:13 AM   #3 
  - Let's see if most Clinton supporters here actually acknowledge this point. n/t  writes3000   Jun-01-08 08:13 AM   #4 
  - Clinton might have gladly traded off netting less delegates in those states  Tom Rinaldo   Jun-01-08 08:27 AM   #8 
  - By the time they could have run new elections  MindMatter   Jun-01-08 09:33 AM   #16 
     - It either was "over " when Obama won a dozen or so in a row, or it was "over"  Tom Rinaldo   Jun-01-08 09:49 AM   #17 
        - I don't see how Texas could possibly be a setback for Obama  MindMatter   Jun-01-08 12:02 PM   #18 
  - I think FL was entirely fair, with the exception of they should have  Ravy   Jun-01-08 08:37 AM   #13 
  - If the Michigan Democratic Party had not been the one making that proposal  Tom Rinaldo   Jun-01-08 08:43 AM   #14 
     - But it was the DNC that made it a mess  Ravy   Jun-01-08 09:02 AM   #15 
        - Michigan ruined their own primary  Jake3463   Jun-01-08 12:06 PM   #19 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-01-08 12:07 PM   #20 
     - Because he didn't..  mystieus   Jun-01-08 12:13 PM   #21 
     - The GOP In Florida Wanted The Dems To Pay . . .  Median Democrat   Jun-01-08 12:32 PM   #22 
 

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