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Sat May-31-08 11:05 PM
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| 4. Yup. She's a greek tragic hero - constitutionally unable to stop herself... |
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from doing the things that everyone knows will be her undoing.
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| -"I Deeply Regret My Vote Authorizing the War in Iraq" |
Yavin4 |
May-31-08 11:02 PM |
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Agreed. The vote for the IWR and subsequent refusal to apologize/admit it was a mistake |
impeachdubya |
May-31-08 11:04 PM |
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Not true. It's a red herring that is more comfortable to use than just |
jasmine621 |
Jun-01-08 12:30 AM |
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I hate Hillary Clinton for all of the above. |
papapi |
Jun-01-08 01:02 AM |
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It is not a red herring. I loathe Hillary Clinton for that reason compounded |
Catherina |
Jun-01-08 04:22 AM |
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Hillary voted FOR cluster bombs? |
Canuckistanian |
Jun-01-08 08:44 AM |
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Oh, BULLSHIT. Take your penny ante psychoanalysis elsewhere. |
impeachdubya |
Jun-01-08 04:26 AM |
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You make it sound that we didn't vote for Obama, but against Hillary. |
Katzenkavalier |
Jun-01-08 08:57 AM |
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Yes, it's true. There is only one viable candidate standing. GUESS his views. |
WinkyDink |
Jun-01-08 12:44 PM |
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I hate her because she is a Liar. Is that good enough? |
JackORoses |
Jun-01-08 02:21 PM |
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I have come to agree with those who note ... |
Cosmocat |
Jun-01-08 08:17 AM |
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Then you must not have voted for John Kerry in 2004 |
Taxmyth |
May-31-08 11:04 PM |
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Have you ever heard his apology? nt |
babylonsister |
May-31-08 11:05 PM |
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Kerry was constantly plagued by that vote during the election |
LSK |
May-31-08 11:06 PM |
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Kerry was saying the WAR itself was wrong even in 2004 |
karynnj |
Jun-01-08 12:14 PM |
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I worked/voted for Kerry in the general, but he was my last choice in the primary |
orangepeel68 |
May-31-08 11:07 PM |
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Doesn't It Seem LIke There Were More |
otohara |
May-31-08 11:25 PM |
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of course, in the primary. |
orangepeel68 |
Jun-01-08 08:07 AM |
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Dean should have been the nominee |
Carolina |
Jun-01-08 08:10 AM |
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If the issue was IWR, that is pretty strange as Kerry was nowhere near the worst |
karynnj |
Jun-01-08 11:45 AM |
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I supported Dean |
orangepeel68 |
Jun-01-08 12:41 PM |
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Similar on their "war" votes? |
karynnj |
Jun-01-08 02:24 PM |
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Suspect whatever you want. |
orangepeel68 |
Jun-01-08 02:39 PM |
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I voted for him in the GE |
WatchWhatISay |
May-31-08 11:08 PM |
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Kerry and Edwards apologized n/t |
cbc5g |
May-31-08 11:11 PM |
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Kerry Was The "Safe" Choice Over Dean |
Yavin4 |
May-31-08 11:16 PM |
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It's obvious, |
crickets |
Jun-01-08 02:02 AM |
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I voted for Kerry because I sincerely thought he would defend the vote |
Stevepol |
Jun-01-08 04:25 AM |
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That's where I am at. I hope I am wrong too. Still gonna vote, if only to make them steal it. :( nt |
glitch |
Jun-01-08 11:29 PM |
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DUH! At least Kerry is man enough to admit a mistake. |
blonndee |
May-31-08 11:17 PM |
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"Mr. President Do Not Rush To War" |
sandnsea |
May-31-08 11:45 PM |
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Not in a PRIMARY where I had a CHOICE, I didn't. |
PassingFair |
May-31-08 11:56 PM |
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How does that apply to Sen Clinton? She sided with George Bush. Other people did to, but that |
rhett o rick |
Jun-01-08 12:00 AM |
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One sentence, but never an apology. Too *-like for me. nt |
babylonsister |
May-31-08 11:05 PM |
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Yup. She's a greek tragic hero - constitutionally unable to stop herself... |
BlooInBloo |
May-31-08 11:05 PM |
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She's no "tragic hero." That was LBJ. She's a marginal figure. |
faygokid |
May-31-08 11:15 PM |
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Sigh. It's a term classical greek theater. |
BlooInBloo |
May-31-08 11:31 PM |
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It's also the state slogan of Virginia. Sigh. |
faygokid |
May-31-08 11:40 PM |
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At least she has been honest in not pretending to have any regrets. |
Impeachment_Monkey |
May-31-08 11:15 PM |
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You are giving her credit for being honest about her support for the tyrannt Bush and his war? |
rhett o rick |
Jun-01-08 12:02 AM |
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Hillary's just showing her true colors, by not regreting her pro-war vote |
Impeachment_Monkey |
Jun-01-08 06:04 PM |
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I understand. Takes me a little while. I am blinded by my distaste for her supplication to our |
rhett o rick |
Jun-01-08 11:48 PM |
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And yet, hilary's campaign manager is talkin' trash about Scotty McClellan |
zidzi |
May-31-08 11:18 PM |
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"Regret" means never having to say you're sorry... |
housewolf |
May-31-08 11:23 PM |
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Agreed. Her arrogance was her downfall. |
jazzjunkysue |
May-31-08 11:24 PM |
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She isn't out of touch with the dem base |
Nite Owl |
May-31-08 11:26 PM |
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She Spent More Time Charming Conservatives Like Rupert Murdoch |
Yavin4 |
May-31-08 11:31 PM |
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She didn't want or need us |
Nite Owl |
May-31-08 11:37 PM |
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She actually laughed at us and told us to vote for other candidates if we didn't like it |
Catherina |
Jun-01-08 04:23 AM |
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I agree that this was a big part of it. I also feel that her old style politik didn't match up well |
Political Heretic |
May-31-08 11:28 PM |
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Agreed on Iraq vote. But what about her comment on Iran O? |
curious one |
May-31-08 11:30 PM |
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It Was A Pandering Vote All Around By Edwards, Kerry and Hillary |
Median Democrat |
May-31-08 11:32 PM |
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Who led the party those years? |
sandnsea |
May-31-08 11:54 PM |
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Agree, Hillary and Bill Were Outspoken In Supporting Bush... |
Median Democrat |
Jun-01-08 12:49 AM |
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The three were not the same |
karynnj |
Jun-01-08 12:04 PM |
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In other words if Hillary Clinton was not Hillary Clinton but a differenre person |
Yotun |
May-31-08 11:32 PM |
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I think you're wrong on every count, and... |
guruoo |
May-31-08 11:45 PM |
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So your point is that she is justified for supporting our fascist leader because |
rhett o rick |
Jun-01-08 12:08 AM |
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You claimed a majority of her constituants opposed her vote even before they knew there were no WMD |
guruoo |
Jun-01-08 12:18 AM |
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AND YOU ARE FUCKING WRONG |
Yavin4 |
Jun-01-08 12:24 AM |
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Before the WMD lies were exposed? |
guruoo |
Jun-01-08 12:39 AM |
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Joe Wilson? Perhaps you heard of him? Inspectors? |
Median Democrat |
Jun-01-08 12:46 AM |
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The IWR was passed in October of '02. The war began on March 19, '03. |
guruoo |
Jun-01-08 12:58 AM |
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And Bill and Hillary Clinton Were Supporting The War Before It Started . . . |
Median Democrat |
Jun-01-08 01:05 AM |
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That wasn't the point I was disputing... |
guruoo |
Jun-01-08 10:24 AM |
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yes, many of us knew the WMD threat was a hoax |
Carolina |
Jun-01-08 08:20 AM |
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It is easy to critize a post but much harder to make a point. What's your point? |
rhett o rick |
Jun-01-08 09:55 AM |
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HER NY CONSTITUENTS MARCHED IN THE DAMN SNOW |
Yavin4 |
Jun-01-08 12:13 AM |
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So, this group of protestors comprised a 'majority of her constituants'? |
guruoo |
Jun-01-08 12:21 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-01-08 12:23 AM |
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With all due respect, doubt had been raised reg the WMDs by the time the war started |
guruoo |
Jun-01-08 12:31 AM |
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That, and Acting Like We Insulted Her If We Didn't Vote For Her |
Edgewater_Joe |
May-31-08 11:59 PM |
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It would have mattered. |
AtomicKitten |
Jun-01-08 12:44 AM |
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Agreed. And her popularity before the primaries was media hype. |
papapi |
Jun-01-08 01:01 AM |
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she's not as dreamy as John Edwards |
Enrique |
Jun-01-08 03:20 AM |
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Your post won't bring dead Iraqi children back either. Why are you doing this? |
crickets |
Jun-01-08 04:17 AM |
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lol, I'm being disrespectful of the dead |
Enrique |
Jun-01-08 04:31 AM |
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Yes, you are. |
crickets |
Jun-01-08 04:59 AM |
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pure sophistry and ad hominem |
Enrique |
Jun-01-08 05:10 AM |
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You've made yourself clear, far clearer than you know. |
crickets |
Jun-01-08 05:26 AM |
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I haven't made any such ad hominems |
Enrique |
Jun-01-08 05:49 AM |
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yes, you are |
Carolina |
Jun-01-08 08:26 AM |
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And of their living relatives!! Our entire family has suffered from this war!! |
Major Hogwash |
Jun-01-08 06:10 PM |
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Right, far better to flatly refuse to apologize- or admit it was a mistake. |
impeachdubya |
Jun-01-08 04:31 AM |
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And then she proved that she'd learned nothing by her vote on Iran. |
polichick |
Jun-01-08 05:00 AM |
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I don't think it was just that; if she voted differently on the war but ran the campaign just like |
BklynChick |
Jun-01-08 05:08 AM |
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The Clintons lost the primary season due to their own incompetence |
LiberaI |
Jun-01-08 05:45 AM |
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K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R!!! |
Carolina |
Jun-01-08 08:09 AM |
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She lacks the leadership ability to be a good Senator or President. |
tabasco |
Jun-01-08 08:13 AM |
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Her war vote, just like NAFTA 'rethinking' |
DogPoundPup |
Jun-01-08 08:24 AM |
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But that would show "weakness." |
Xap |
Jun-01-08 08:54 AM |
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That's what she thought. |
Katzenkavalier |
Jun-01-08 08:59 AM |
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Exactly right. I would be campaigning for her today if she had voted against the IWR. |
Stephanie |
Jun-01-08 10:38 AM |
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Apologize for that AND for voting AGAINST the Levin-Reed amendment |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jun-01-08 10:40 AM |
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She seems to have a pathological inability to apologize |
JerseygirlCT |
Jun-01-08 12:08 PM |
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An apology would have meant nothing.. she was done the moment she voted that way. |
Milo_Bloom |
Jun-01-08 12:10 PM |
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And she never could say it either. In that sense, she Hillary McClinton. |
David Zephyr |
Jun-01-08 12:53 PM |
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She did not utter those words because the DLC supports the military industrial complex. |
Swamp Rat |
Jun-01-08 12:54 PM |
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agreed |
samsingh |
Jun-01-08 02:17 PM |
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and maybe she ran a pathetic campaign until mark penn was booted |
YDogg |
Jun-01-08 02:25 PM |
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That's correct- she never once said those words and what a difference it would have made. |
KaryninMiami |
Jun-01-08 02:29 PM |
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Absolutely correct. nt |
BullGooseLoony |
Jun-01-08 11:50 PM |
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That didn't work so well for Edwards. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-01-08 11:51 PM |
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That and three letters: DLC |
WA98070 |
Jun-01-08 11:52 PM |
#103 |
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