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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:00 PM
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19. ...
Begin, ephebe, by perceiving the idea
Of this invention, this invented world,
The inconceivable idea of the sun.

You must become an ignorant man again
And see the sun again with an ignorant eye
And see it clearly in the idea of it.

Never suppose an inventing mind as source
Of this idea nor for that mind compose
A voluminous master folded in his fire.

How clean the sun when seen in its idea,
Washed in the remotest cleanliness of a heaven
That has expelled us and our images . . .

The death of one god is the death of all.
Let purple Phoebus lie in umber harvest,
Let Phoebus slumber and die in autumn umber,

Phoebus is dead, ephebe.But Phoebus was
A name for something that never could be named.
There was a project for the sun and is.

There is a project for the sun.The sun
Must bear no name, gold flourisher, but be
In the difficulty of what it is to be.
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  -Poignant column about the Clinton campaign at First Read tonight. madfloridian  May-29-08 10:39 PM   #0 
  - It is sad, isn't it? I remember being SO EXCITED when it became  grannylib   May-29-08 10:48 PM   #1 
  - It was exciting at first.  madfloridian   May-29-08 11:19 PM   #3 
  - i've seen Hillary play this role before  CreekDog   May-29-08 11:17 PM   #2 
  - I've seen this bad movie, too..  zidzi   May-29-08 11:25 PM   #5 
  - yes but each time she loses a little more dignity and a lot of supporters  grantcart   May-29-08 11:44 PM   #8 
     - Nelson/Wasserman-Schultz  youngharry   May-30-08 07:02 PM   #27 
     - Bill has kept egging her on to not quit - bet the SOB enjoys seeing her fail.  Divernan   May-30-08 09:17 PM   #31 
        - You have to wonder if he's looking forward to saying  Ken Burch   May-30-08 10:54 PM   #35 
  - Thanks, mad..  zidzi   May-29-08 11:23 PM   #4 
  - Hillary says better for the country so better must be more lying and double talk, that's, great.  barack the house   May-29-08 11:33 PM   #6 
  - it is sad, a melancholy sadness  grantcart   May-29-08 11:38 PM   #7 
  - Annuals (Denise Levertov)  eridani   May-30-08 08:01 AM   #11 
  - Powerful quotes, gc  madfloridian   May-30-08 04:07 PM   #13 
  - nice quotes  HooptieWagon   May-30-08 10:02 PM   #32 
  - * deleted *  SlipperySlope   May-30-08 12:03 AM   #9 
  - And a truly poignant post, MF ...  NanceGreggs   May-30-08 12:19 AM   #10 
  - Yes. It is.  madfloridian   May-30-08 04:03 PM   #12 
  - I can't imagine how she lost.  ieoeja   May-30-08 04:22 PM   #14 
  - I particularly enjoyed the irony of her SD claim  HooptieWagon   May-30-08 10:06 PM   #33 
  - This divisive campaign by Hillary  DeschutesRiver   May-30-08 05:04 PM   #15 
  - Especially a few Democratic leaders in FL...and a few elsewhere.  madfloridian   May-30-08 05:43 PM   #16 
  - Mad, the Clintons are having a very hard time accepting Obama beat the vaunted "Clinton machine"  flpoljunkie   May-30-08 05:53 PM   #17 
  - In another thread I posted a poem  intaglio   May-30-08 05:59 PM   #18 
  - ...  tishaLA   May-30-08 06:00 PM   #19 
  - Thanks for this. It is indeed sad. The machine obviously broke down. *Rec'd*  papapi   May-30-08 06:01 PM   #20 
  - God bless Bill Nelson, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and Corinne Brown.  MethuenProgressive   May-30-08 06:02 PM   #21 
  - Nelson/Wasserman-Schultz/Brown  youngharry   May-30-08 07:22 PM   #29 
  - Important to remember that Clintons collapsed party infrastructures in crucial states DELIBERATELY  blm   May-30-08 06:05 PM   #22 
  - Wasn't it 12 states that Dean had to get out of bankruptcy?  madfloridian   May-30-08 06:32 PM   #25 
     - Yes - THAT is the reality of the Clintons' "concern" for the Dem party, its voters and candidates  blm   May-31-08 11:25 AM   #36 
  - Sad how raw naked, selfish ambition triumphed  Raine   May-30-08 06:15 PM   #23 
  - So you think it was Hillary's entitlement?  madfloridian   May-30-08 06:16 PM   #24 
     - NO way. I'm saying that the Clintons threw  Raine   May-30-08 07:18 PM   #28 
        - Good, we agree. Thanks for explaining.  madfloridian   May-30-08 08:19 PM   #30 
        - I have to sadly agree...  NotThisTime   May-30-08 10:15 PM   #34 
  - Legacy??.. that is what is so sad about this...  peacetrain   May-30-08 06:58 PM   #26 
  - After watching a few moments of the meeting....the sadness is gone.  madfloridian   May-31-08 12:18 PM   #37 
  - If Hillary wants to atone...  MilesColtrane   Jun-01-08 05:36 PM   #38 
 

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