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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:14 PM
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65. Amen. Inclusive of both liberal and conservative (some social issues) democratic Americans.
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  -Hillary can't drop out because she has no future in NY after losing African Americans grassfed  May-29-08 12:34 AM   #0 
  - Are you a betting man? Or woman?  John Q. Citizen   May-29-08 12:35 AM   #1 
  - Hillary may very well have permanently damaged her future political prospects.  casus belli   May-29-08 12:37 AM   #2 
  - If she even cares about them...  XemaSab   May-29-08 12:40 AM   #4 
     - Interesting idea...  casus belli   May-29-08 12:45 AM   #8 
     - For Hillary, the senate was nothing more than  hogwyld   May-29-08 12:29 PM   #73 
  - bilary gambled, they lost ..  zidzi   May-29-08 12:37 AM   #3 
  - She has lost progressives, she has lost the anti-war vote, the youth, the educated...  Stephanie   May-29-08 12:40 AM   #5 
  - I don't know about educated, I have some, but she lost me on honesty.  IsItJustMe   May-29-08 08:44 PM   #81 
     - Bingo!  kevinbgoode   May-29-08 09:20 PM   #95 
  - HRC will easily RETAIN the AA vote in New York.  Double T   May-29-08 12:44 AM   #6 
  - Obama was the first post-racial candidate until Bill and Hillary got busy  grassfed   May-29-08 12:46 AM   #9 
  - Double T obviously gets his view of race from Kelly cartoons  nxylas   May-29-08 12:11 PM   #62 
     - When race dominates the focus of a politic campaign WHEN our nation is in crumbling ruins...........  Double T   May-29-08 08:05 PM   #75 
     - or Faux news.  IsItJustMe   May-29-08 08:44 PM   #84 
  - Um, what?  SeattleGirl   May-29-08 12:46 AM   #10 
  - YOU and I can ALWAYS tell a lot about an individual by the company.......  Double T   May-29-08 12:51 AM   #13 
  - And what does it say about Hillary that she kept Slick Willie around all this time..lmao  Doityourself   May-29-08 11:13 AM   #45 
  - What did WJC do that was so damn wrong?  Double T   May-29-08 08:08 PM   #76 
  - You view him through your lense, and I shall view slickster through mine..  Doityourself   May-30-08 08:44 AM   #101 
  - There was a time  MonkeyFunk   May-30-08 10:39 AM   #106 
     - There was a time, but it has come and gone..slick willie is the douche bag now..baby girl  Doityourself   May-30-08 06:57 PM   #109 
  - I can tell a lot about you by what you think of Rev. Wright.  Bornaginhooligan   May-29-08 12:02 PM   #52 
  - Good idea. Some of my family members are AA and my grandson is multiracial and I know they would....  Double T   May-29-08 08:11 PM   #77 
     - Using all caps on certain words don't make them more true.  Raineyb   May-29-08 08:44 PM   #83 
     - Everything checks out on this end. I believe SOME overmodulate.........  Double T   May-29-08 08:51 PM   #90 
        - You are the one who seems to have issues with race  Raineyb   May-30-08 10:28 AM   #103 
     - Yeah, I bet.  IsItJustMe   May-29-08 08:47 PM   #86 
        - To be expected.  Double T   May-29-08 08:53 PM   #91 
  - I am a whitey and the Rev. is alright in my book. I don't know what the hell you are talking about.  IsItJustMe   May-29-08 08:46 PM   #85 
     - Probably because YOU are NOT paying attention.  Double T   May-29-08 08:55 PM   #92 
  - Obama is racist because his supporters didn't sit by idly while Bill and Hill tried to hang a big...  JVS   May-29-08 03:31 AM   #26 
     - Oh.  SeattleGirl   May-29-08 04:03 AM   #31 
  - Some DU'ers don't understand that racists  emilyg   May-29-08 01:15 AM   #17 
  - BUT in order to behave racist (discrimination) you must be "the man" and have the power.  ShortnFiery   May-29-08 12:06 PM   #56 
  - Thank YOU emilyg!! YES, like hypocrites THEY certainly DO!!!!  Double T   May-29-08 08:16 PM   #78 
  - By what logic? AA in NY have heard the same song and dance that everyone else has.  genna   May-29-08 04:08 AM   #32 
  - AA people tend to pick up on "the cues" - probably through GREATER ATTENTION  ShortnFiery   May-29-08 12:12 PM   #63 
  - I beg to differ...  mamalone   May-29-08 12:03 PM   #55 
  - she probably will retain the seat , but  iamthebandfanman   May-29-08 12:08 PM   #59 
  - You do the AA electorate a disservice  Raineyb   May-29-08 08:41 PM   #80 
     - thank you for saying that  malletgirl02   May-29-08 09:24 PM   #96 
     - It's been frosting me for quite some time too.  Raineyb   May-30-08 10:39 AM   #105 
     - I doubt all AA had a meeting to figure out how we are served best  genna   May-29-08 09:30 PM   #97 
        - I didn't claim to speak for all AA.  Raineyb   May-30-08 10:37 AM   #104 
  - The Clintons aren't shy about saying win at all cost and then repair the damage.  AtomicKitten   May-29-08 12:44 AM   #7 
  - exactly.  grassfed   May-29-08 12:47 AM   #11 
  - You sound like Sharon Stone.  emilyg   May-29-08 01:16 AM   #18 
     - lol. Nice one!!  cliffordu   May-29-08 02:21 AM   #24 
     - I look like her too, circa 1990  AtomicKitten   May-29-08 11:51 AM   #47 
        - link with pics?  reflection   May-29-08 11:57 AM   #50 
           - on a bad day  AtomicKitten   May-29-08 12:02 PM   #53 
              - I gotta go to the restroom.  reflection   May-29-08 12:07 PM   #58 
              - Stay Classy.  ShortnFiery   May-29-08 12:17 PM   #67 
              - Oh I didn't realize that you are so lovely AK. Nice PIC.  ShortnFiery   May-29-08 12:16 PM   #66 
                 - thank you so much  AtomicKitten   May-29-08 12:25 PM   #71 
  - nah, most Democrats (white, black or other) don't really hate her  orangepeel68   May-29-08 12:51 AM   #12 
  - If you don't understand how many people are closely following this race....  FrenchieCat   May-29-08 01:34 AM   #19 
  - I know it is a lot. But I have to believe they'll come around our we're fucked.  orangepeel68   May-29-08 09:47 AM   #38 
     - Not necessarily  Raineyb   May-29-08 08:48 PM   #87 
  - I don't know what to think about it..  windbreeze   May-29-08 10:33 AM   #41 
     - I don't know either. Of course, our perceptions are based on our own experiences  orangepeel68   May-29-08 11:00 AM   #42 
  - Her Senate seat has NEVER been her goal  DJ13   May-29-08 01:00 AM   #14 
  - yes, from a resident of the Stepping Stone State. nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   May-29-08 01:14 AM   #16 
  - True dat.  GoesTo11   May-29-08 03:27 AM   #25 
  - She'll have plenty of time to repair the damage to her brand.  Occam Bandage   May-29-08 01:01 AM   #15 
  - Has the DixieCrat brand found a revival after 1968? How's that brand of conservative  genna   May-29-08 04:16 AM   #33 
  - She still won every county in ny except tompkins and believe me  LordJFT   May-29-08 01:38 AM   #20 
  - she won NY before the race baiting in SC  grassfed   May-29-08 11:39 AM   #46 
     - nope SC was before ny, although her race-baiting did get even worse after super tuesday  LordJFT   May-29-08 10:35 PM   #98 
  - Unless someone challenges her in the primary, NY African-Americans  funflower   May-29-08 01:49 AM   #21 
  - Aren't NY Republicans pretty liberal though?  George_Bonanza   May-29-08 01:52 AM   #22 
     - You've got a point.....  funflower   May-29-08 01:56 AM   #23 
     - Then she could be in deep shit.  JVS   May-29-08 03:34 AM   #27 
     - Yea that's one thing that always bothered me about the "Hillary is tested" argument  Hippo_Tron   May-29-08 03:46 AM   #29 
        - Does anyone have the Jack Ryan vs. Obama polling from before Ryan's scandal busted wide open?  JVS   May-29-08 03:59 AM   #30 
           - ryan was around 45%  madrchsod   May-29-08 05:50 AM   #37 
              - That polling was also before Obama's convention speech  Hippo_Tron   May-29-08 11:53 AM   #48 
     - Bloomberg would DESTROY her  jsmirman   May-29-08 09:59 AM   #40 
  - Oye, here we go again  Hippo_Tron   May-29-08 03:42 AM   #28 
  - the MSM didn't force Clinton surrogates to use race as a proxy  genna   May-29-08 05:15 AM   #34 
  - see for yourself  grassfed   May-29-08 12:00 PM   #51 
     - I've already seen it plenty of times  Hippo_Tron   May-29-08 12:06 PM   #57 
        - I'm sorry your candidate let you down  grassfed   May-29-08 12:13 PM   #64 
        - I'm an Obama supporter  Hippo_Tron   May-29-08 12:22 PM   #70 
           - African Americans know it when they see it  grassfed   May-29-08 12:26 PM   #72 
              - Not the ones I met canvassing for Obama  Hippo_Tron   May-29-08 12:30 PM   #74 
        - If it would give them big wins....  bvar22   May-29-08 08:32 PM   #79 
  - She may face a Primary Opponent  Jake3463   May-29-08 05:19 AM   #35 
  - She only "needed" that job to position herself for the presidency  SoCalDem   May-29-08 05:39 AM   #36 
  - absolutely correct. She wanted to be senator as a prelude to the presidency  wowimthere   May-29-08 12:21 PM   #69 
  - I know that I will be actively supporting anyone that runs against her in a primary challenge...  truebrit71   May-29-08 09:49 AM   #39 
  - For even attempting to introduce the Southern Strategy into the Democratic Party process,  Skidmore   May-29-08 11:02 AM   #43 
  - It is the most insane strategy ever it can't make for good work relations either.  barack the house   May-29-08 11:09 AM   #44 
  - HRC isn't doing too well with the LIBERAL wing of the NY State Democratic Party either.  ShortnFiery   May-29-08 11:54 AM   #49 
  - African Americans are 15% of NY State and probably 25-30% of the Democrats.  Zynx   May-29-08 12:03 PM   #54 
  - Fatal damage to Hillary in NY electorate  grassfed   May-29-08 12:09 PM   #60 
     - Amen. Inclusive of both liberal and conservative (some social issues) democratic Americans.  ShortnFiery   May-29-08 12:14 PM   #65 
  - I heard Laurence O'Donnell say she has a lot of work to do in NY  BrentTaylor   May-29-08 12:10 PM   #61 
  - If she thinks she can get Obama supporters of all stripes and African Americans back  wowimthere   May-29-08 12:20 PM   #68 
  - Rubbish  JoFerret   May-29-08 08:44 PM   #82 
  - Don't forget, Hillary attacked "The Bloggers and MoveON",  bvar22   May-29-08 08:49 PM   #88 
  - If she cant have the power of the WH she wont take anything else.  Bensthename   May-29-08 08:49 PM   #89 
  - you don't know what you're talking about  ElsewheresDaughter   May-29-08 09:12 PM   #93 
  - I think Hillary will be great with whatever she does.  ccharles000   May-29-08 09:18 PM   #94 
  - Sorry, you're right  autorank   May-29-08 10:39 PM   #99 
  - Oh yeah, because the AA vote is the only support that counts anymore.  Beacool   May-30-08 12:45 AM   #100 
  - Since white voters generally lean republican, democrats need strong support from african americans  JVS   May-30-08 10:40 AM   #107 
  - Kick!  invictus   May-30-08 08:57 AM   #102 
  - She will probably get reelected  eilen   May-30-08 10:47 AM   #108 
  - Look what happened to Spitzer.  dailykoff   May-30-08 07:01 PM   #110 
 

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