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Wed May-28-08 02:48 PM
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at knife point? Mass bangings of pots and pans? Threats against the DNC? SD's? Obama supporters?
Thats right. Keep on changing the rules until little Hillary wins. And when Obama supporters tell you all to fuck off, you'll know why.
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| -Screw Bowing Out: If Hillary Takes The Popular Vote We Take The Nomination |
Austinitis |
May-28-08 02:02 PM |
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Not even close |
lisa58 |
May-28-08 02:03 PM |
#1 |
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Great Gallup Poll article you linked...... |
Mike L |
May-28-08 02:20 PM |
#57 |
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You don't understand politics at all. "Far left" are, you know, MAOISTS and STALINISTS. |
Zhade |
May-28-08 11:07 PM |
#177 |
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ooooooooooooooooooookay. |
Mezzo |
May-28-08 10:21 PM |
#171 |
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Way to ignore all the caucus states. |
anonymous171 |
May-28-08 02:03 PM |
#2 |
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were we not already told that caucuses don't count long ago? |
JVS |
May-28-08 02:06 PM |
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Any state that Hillary didn't win doesn't count. That's Hillaryland thinking for you.... |
PoliticalAmazon |
May-28-08 02:33 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-28-08 02:36 PM |
#84 |
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"Hillary Bitch" ... nice. |
dbaker41 |
May-28-08 02:57 PM |
#105 |
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Not necessary |
uberllama42 |
May-28-08 03:14 PM |
#113 |
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Pathetic! n/t |
MaineDem |
May-28-08 03:15 PM |
#115 |
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exactly. |
dana_b |
May-28-08 06:51 PM |
#155 |
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way to ignore florida and michigan while giving a repig in texas more of a say than a dem who stood |
Mezzo |
May-28-08 10:22 PM |
#172 |
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I see there was another conference call. The popular vote is pointless. |
Kittycat |
May-28-08 02:04 PM |
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See the OP. |
Austinitis |
May-28-08 02:04 PM |
#8 |
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The popular vote is pointless. Obama already won the popularly elected delegates. |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-08 02:05 PM |
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Screw That. I don't see any reason not to force super-delegates to pick |
Austinitis |
May-28-08 02:06 PM |
#18 |
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Bullying techniques like that have backfired so far for Team Clinton. What makes you think |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-08 02:07 PM |
#21 |
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Wrong, Playing tough for the last three months has |
Austinitis |
May-28-08 02:09 PM |
#27 |
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Wrong? How many net supers has her bully tactics gained her? What makes you think |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-08 02:11 PM |
#35 |
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How many have deserted her? Like 5? And that was while Obama had the popular vote... |
Austinitis |
May-28-08 02:12 PM |
#42 |
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How many have been endorsing her? Supers are her last hope, and they're going for Obama en masse. |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-08 02:13 PM |
#43 |
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No, the popular vote is what will change it. |
Austinitis |
May-28-08 02:20 PM |
#58 |
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You think the sd's are going to Obama because... |
lisa58 |
May-28-08 02:23 PM |
#61 |
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Well, given that they've claimed "She's winning (made-up metric)" for months, and the SDs haven't |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-08 02:28 PM |
#68 |
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If your hope is that you'll be able to convince superdelegates to discount caucus states, |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-08 02:27 PM |
#66 |
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LMAO Delusional....lawd...so sad |
Doityourself |
May-28-08 10:33 PM |
#173 |
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She has testicles? |
Erin Elizabeth |
May-28-08 02:33 PM |
#77 |
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I know....eeeeewwwwww! n/t |
yellerpup |
May-28-08 04:12 PM |
#140 |
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Huh? |
HooptieWagon |
May-28-08 08:39 PM |
#166 |
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Baaahahahahaha! |
Blue-Jay |
May-28-08 02:36 PM |
#83 |
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You can't force a superdelegate to pick anyone.... |
lisa58 |
May-28-08 02:18 PM |
#51 |
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Oh....YOU don't see any reason |
Voltaire |
May-28-08 02:32 PM |
#73 |
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bwahahaha. You and an army of hillfans with pots and pans? |
cali |
May-28-08 03:21 PM |
#119 |
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The Delegates *HAVE* been picking.... 148 to 19 since Feb 5th... she's done.... |
scheming daemons |
May-28-08 03:29 PM |
#122 |
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You cant force a superdelegates to do a damn thing.
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tekisui |
May-28-08 03:31 PM |
#124 |
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Do you see any reason to ignore caucus states in your... |
dchill |
May-28-08 03:40 PM |
#127 |
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Ignore causus states, ignore Michigan Obama supporters who had no choice...but count Puerto Rico!!!! |
charles t |
May-28-08 03:25 PM |
#120 |
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You're delusional. |
gcomeau |
May-28-08 02:04 PM |
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and we can hop in santa's sleigh with the easter bunny and pinnochio and drink tea in a giant shoe.. |
dionysus |
May-28-08 02:04 PM |
#5 |
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See you in Denver than |
Jake3463 |
May-28-08 02:04 PM |
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Great. We'll work on a popular-vote system for 2012. In the mean time, Obama is the 2008 nominee. |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-08 02:04 PM |
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Screw That. I don't see any reason not to force super-delegates to pick |
Austinitis |
May-28-08 02:06 PM |
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Trying to bully delegates into overturning the primary/caucus results won't fly any more |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-08 02:09 PM |
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you are delusional, but in a cute, entertaining sort of way. |
Lerkfish |
May-28-08 02:10 PM |
#33 |
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Fail. Obama is winning the nomination, he's not stealing it. |
FSogol |
May-28-08 02:12 PM |
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I'd say the guys trying to change the rules after the game's been played |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-08 02:16 PM |
#49 |
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Same here. But I politely avoided saying that. The OP won't see the distinction. |
FSogol |
May-28-08 02:26 PM |
#65 |
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You can't FORCE superdelegates to do anything. |
Lucky 13 |
May-28-08 03:06 PM |
#110 |
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That's a nice coercive & divisive idea, but who's going to do it? |
Voice for Peace |
May-28-08 03:43 PM |
#128 |
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Well, they're going to yell very loudly, and bang very hard on their pots and pans, |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-08 03:46 PM |
#131 |
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I have a recurring nightmare of an insane mob coming to my front door |
Voice for Peace |
May-28-08 03:58 PM |
#135 |
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Another Hillaryland fantasy ... |
NanceGreggs |
May-28-08 04:02 PM |
#136 |
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Two words: DELEGATE COUNT and Hillary takes zip, nada, goose-egg. |
AtomicKitten |
May-28-08 02:05 PM |
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Ignoring the caucus states = epic fail. |
Arrowhead2k1 |
May-28-08 02:05 PM |
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Any popular-vote "metric" is an enormous fuck-you to caucus states. |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-08 02:06 PM |
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Any delegate "metric" is a fuck-you to anyone in any other state. |
Austinitis |
May-28-08 02:07 PM |
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Each state is given influence according to its population. Each state can choose |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-08 02:08 PM |
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So what if states choose? If they chose |
Austinitis |
May-28-08 02:20 PM |
#55 |
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Then lobby all those states to change their system. |
billyoc |
May-28-08 02:30 PM |
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It doesn't really matter whether you feel the need to do anything. |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-08 02:34 PM |
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The "delegate metric" is the ONLY metric that matters. Right there in the DNC rules. |
scheming daemons |
May-28-08 03:29 PM |
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As a resident of one of the caucus states, I'd like to ask Hilary why |
SeattleGirl |
May-28-08 02:07 PM |
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Give it up. Hillary WILL NOT be the nominee |
BrentTaylor |
May-28-08 02:06 PM |
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only with clinton math |
Lerkfish |
May-28-08 02:06 PM |
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Hillary still wont have the popular vote total after PR |
DJ13 |
May-28-08 02:06 PM |
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She has it now. |
bamalib |
May-28-08 08:00 PM |
#161 |
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Not according to her hubby...guess he missed the "bullshit them" memo |
Doityourself |
May-28-08 10:35 PM |
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Link? Proof? Back up your statement. |
HawkeyeX |
May-28-08 11:12 PM |
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Thank you (NOT) for disenfranchising all of the caucus states |
rox63 |
May-28-08 02:07 PM |
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Thank YOU (NOT) for disenfranchising MI and FL. |
Tyler Durden |
May-28-08 02:10 PM |
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Actually he would probably win in MI. |
anonymous171 |
May-28-08 02:11 PM |
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Obama still wins the delegate count if MI and FL were fully seated |
rox63 |
May-28-08 02:19 PM |
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Obama didn't "lose" those states. |
yellerpup |
May-28-08 04:18 PM |
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Hey, 1 through 4: why not? |
Tyler Durden |
May-28-08 02:07 PM |
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Another Hillabongfest thread |
newmajority |
May-28-08 02:08 PM |
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Do you really even care that much? Jeez, get over it. It's not like she's dead, she just didn't win |
malik flavors |
May-28-08 02:08 PM |
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Clinton supporters only care about rules when they're in their favor.... |
BlooInBloo |
May-28-08 02:09 PM |
#29 |
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Like Obama Supporters only care because they LOST there. |
Tyler Durden |
May-28-08 02:11 PM |
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Hillary agreed as well. |
anonymous171 |
May-28-08 02:12 PM |
#39 |
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YOU CANNOT DISCOUNT CAUCUS STATES!!!!!! |
LSK |
May-28-08 02:09 PM |
#30 |
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I agree and if the caucus states |
DeschutesRiver |
May-28-08 02:25 PM |
#63 |
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I agree 100%, but no matter how big or BOLD you type it - some will never see it. |
RiverStone |
May-28-08 02:42 PM |
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Then you would be proposing a coup and installing .... |
nomaco-10 |
May-28-08 02:09 PM |
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Pretty much. They've declared a new standard of victory after the fact, |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-08 02:11 PM |
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So you want to change the rules of the Democratic Party... how surprising... |
zulchzulu |
May-28-08 02:11 PM |
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So you want to count the popular vote in Puerto Rico which doesn't even VOTE in the GE but not the |
jenmito |
May-28-08 02:12 PM |
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I blame hillary for all this demented bullshit that's coming ... |
nomaco-10 |
May-28-08 02:18 PM |
#52 |
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So do I... |
jenmito |
May-28-08 02:25 PM |
#64 |
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Translation: I WANT PRESIDENT MCSAMEASBUSH!! |
Edgewater_Joe |
May-28-08 02:13 PM |
#44 |
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You will get him with BO as the nominee. McCain will trounce Obama. em |
Mike L |
May-28-08 02:49 PM |
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You will get him with HRC as the nominee. McCain will trounce HRC. em |
rosebud57 |
May-28-08 03:49 PM |
#133 |
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I'll Bet You Anything You Want, Bee-Yatch |
Edgewater_Joe |
May-28-08 11:00 PM |
#176 |
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Freaky Deaky |
IWantAnyDem |
May-28-08 02:13 PM |
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good call. let's make it a movement. |
Teaser |
May-28-08 02:15 PM |
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I'll do so later this evening |
IWantAnyDem |
May-28-08 02:16 PM |
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FAIL |
Teaser |
May-28-08 02:14 PM |
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Either you're getting conned, or you're trying to con someone. |
rucky |
May-28-08 02:17 PM |
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The popular vote is a MYTH |
GihrenZabi |
May-28-08 02:19 PM |
#53 |
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Gallup Poll confirms it. They should know. |
Mike L |
May-28-08 02:24 PM |
#62 |
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Exactly! |
jenmito |
May-28-08 03:14 PM |
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Right on time after the Hill supporters get the "National Primary Vote" memo |
CakeGrrl |
May-28-08 02:20 PM |
#56 |
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she definitely will win the Shmopular Vote.... |
dmsRoar |
May-28-08 02:21 PM |
#59 |
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Here's what's really going to happen, colitis: |
Bread and Circus |
May-28-08 02:22 PM |
#60 |
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You want her to be the kind of person who gets to the very end |
Erin Elizabeth |
May-28-08 02:28 PM |
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K&R |
cricket08 |
May-28-08 02:30 PM |
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Kinda like saying that the team with the most yardage wins the football game. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
May-28-08 02:30 PM |
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Never happen. The rules are going to be followed. Only by breaking rules can Hillary win? |
votesomemore |
May-28-08 02:31 PM |
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Great Post.... |
cricket08 |
May-28-08 02:32 PM |
#74 |
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for the delusional |
skooooo |
May-28-08 02:33 PM |
#79 |
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Sorry you can't just change the rules in the middle of the game. |
skooooo |
May-28-08 02:32 PM |
#75 |
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and the Cubs are going to win the World Series. |
CanonRay |
May-28-08 02:33 PM |
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Yeeeeeaaahhhh No. |
Oregonian |
May-28-08 02:34 PM |
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Repeat after me: There IS no popular vote. It's DELEGATES that count... |
truebrit71 |
May-28-08 02:35 PM |
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What does it make Hillary that she can't beat the "weak" candidate? |
casus belli |
May-28-08 02:39 PM |
#85 |
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Yeah, but Obama only beat her because black people voted for him. |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-08 02:43 PM |
#87 |
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Right, I keep forgetting that. Thanks. :) n/t |
casus belli |
May-28-08 02:49 PM |
#97 |
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You and your candidate agreed to the terms of the primaries before they started. |
AZBlue |
May-28-08 02:43 PM |
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LOL Puerto Rico. Hillary's Firewall |
CaptJasHook |
May-28-08 02:44 PM |
#89 |
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Obama can't carry Puerto Rico in the general election! |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-08 02:44 PM |
#90 |
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And your point is...... |
CaptJasHook |
May-28-08 02:55 PM |
#103 |
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If by 'we' you mean Obama, I agree. |
lojasmo |
May-28-08 02:45 PM |
#91 |
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and how is Puerto Rico expected to go in the GE? nt |
NCevilDUer |
May-28-08 02:46 PM |
#92 |
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The delegate numbers won't change no matter how bad you want |
Sentinel Chicken |
May-28-08 02:46 PM |
#93 |
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Sorry, |
ROakes1019 |
May-28-08 02:47 PM |
#94 |
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Check my new sig! |
americanstranger |
May-28-08 02:48 PM |
#95 |
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You take it HOW? |
bunnies |
May-28-08 02:48 PM |
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Stupid. |
Blue-Jay |
May-28-08 02:48 PM |
#96 |
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Why is Hellary so against a black man being President? I think we all know the answer. |
MadAndy |
May-28-08 02:51 PM |
#99 |
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The invisible man is now visible |
Erin Elizabeth |
May-28-08 02:53 PM |
#100 |
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A most Epic FAIL |
socordsx |
May-28-08 02:53 PM |
#101 |
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I stopped reading before I even got the end of the title |
jzodda |
May-28-08 02:54 PM |
#102 |
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He won, she lost. GET OVER IT. n/t. |
apocalypsehow |
May-28-08 02:56 PM |
#104 |
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Why typed it in wrong, |
Bright Eyes |
May-28-08 02:59 PM |
#106 |
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OMG! SHE IS NOT WINNING THE POPULAR VOTE!!! |
cui bono |
May-28-08 03:04 PM |
#107 |
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Let this bullshit propaganda sink. |
formercia |
May-28-08 03:05 PM |
#108 |
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So caucuses shouldn't count and we should abandon the same primary system that elected her husband? |
Lucky 13 |
May-28-08 03:05 PM |
#109 |
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12-stepping in 2013: "Hi, my name is Austinitis and I'm a Hillary supporter." "Hi, Austinitis" |
nichomachus |
May-28-08 03:09 PM |
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There is no freakin' popular vote |
MaineDem |
May-28-08 03:15 PM |
#114 |
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Her own campaign advisor VOTED FOR the rules stripping Michigan & Florida |
Paint It Black |
May-28-08 03:18 PM |
#116 |
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You need to make 10 or 20 more posts on this topic. |
Vinca |
May-28-08 03:19 PM |
#117 |
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Estimates. |
Austinitis |
May-28-08 03:20 PM |
#118 |
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Estimates? Okay. Let's estimate them on the high side for Obama |
Vinca |
May-28-08 03:28 PM |
#121 |
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carrying on hurts Obama's prospects in the fall, I say "so what?" |
endarkenment |
May-28-08 03:32 PM |
#125 |
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I think it's obvious by now that they simply don't care if the Republicans control the WH. |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-08 03:39 PM |
#126 |
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If all 50 states had open primaries only and divided their delegates the exact same way |
rocknation |
May-28-08 03:44 PM |
#129 |
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Yeah! Screw the rules, the math and all of that fuck it! Let her have it, it's her time |
ericgtr |
May-28-08 03:45 PM |
#130 |
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Uh, how about 'No'? n/t |
RichardRay |
May-28-08 03:47 PM |
#132 |
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If there was a popular vote, there would be no caucus states, therefore the |
slinkerwink |
May-28-08 03:49 PM |
#134 |
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If Democrats elected by popular vote, and there was an actual reliable |
wienerdoggie |
May-28-08 04:04 PM |
#137 |
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If Popular Vote counted Obama would have campaigned differently |
wileedog |
May-28-08 04:09 PM |
#139 |
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Yep. This whole argument is asinine. It's based on fantasy. |
wienerdoggie |
May-28-08 04:13 PM |
#141 |
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If it were 'most yards', nobody would ever punt. |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-08 05:48 PM |
#147 |
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no state would have a caucus if popular vote was what mattered. |
hfojvt |
May-29-08 03:08 AM |
#181 |
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That the popular vote tally isn't the metric used by the DNC to award the nomination. |
ellisonz |
May-28-08 04:09 PM |
#138 |
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That's all that matters really. |
jefferson_dem |
May-28-08 04:14 PM |
#142 |
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Whimsical fantasy. Good luck. |
papapi |
May-28-08 04:19 PM |
#144 |
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I have to admit her new theme song is PERFECT! |
zulchzulu |
May-28-08 04:19 PM |
#145 |
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Ahm, did anyone ever discuss Santa Claus with you |
TayTay |
May-28-08 09:32 PM |
#169 |
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The only way Hillary can win the popular vote is by counting a coup style win where she was the only |
Wolsh |
May-28-08 04:21 PM |
#146 |
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Keep it up to the convention and BOTH Hillary and Obama lose the GE, McCain is in GE mode already |
ShadowLiberal |
May-28-08 05:53 PM |
#148 |
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If this is what you believe, you should work politically to change the rules accordingly. |
indie_ana_500 |
May-28-08 05:55 PM |
#149 |
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Walter Mitty strikes again |
sniffa |
May-28-08 05:58 PM |
#150 |
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the "will of the people" who happen to live in states with primaries |
onenote |
May-28-08 05:58 PM |
#151 |
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Not true at all. Austin ain't stupid. Austin don't think you're stupid. Austin, rather, is under |
Occam Bandage |
May-28-08 06:00 PM |
#152 |
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2012. Not 2008. |
Buzz Clik |
May-28-08 06:01 PM |
#153 |
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SDs from: IA, AL, CO, ID, KS, MN, ND, NE, WA, ME, HI, WY |
onenote |
May-28-08 06:09 PM |
#154 |
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What is the point? |
quaker bill |
May-28-08 06:59 PM |
#156 |
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Sorry PR, but non-voters don't count as voters..failly-fail |
ChimpersMcSmirkers |
May-28-08 07:29 PM |
#157 |
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hahahaha ha... |
Elrond Hubbard |
May-28-08 07:32 PM |
#158 |
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Non-state Puerto Rico deciding who the nominee is? Are you on crack? |
stevietheman |
May-28-08 07:42 PM |
#159 |
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Even after Puerto Rico, she won't catch up in the popular vote... |
backscatter712 |
May-28-08 07:48 PM |
#160 |
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Then this question shouldn't be too difficult to answer. |
WIllo |
May-28-08 08:12 PM |
#162 |
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The popular vote DOES NOT EXIST IN THE PRIMARY ELECTION. It's the fucking delegates. |
slinkerwink |
May-28-08 08:14 PM |
#163 |
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That's right ... it IS the delegates in the PRIMARY |
janetblond |
May-28-08 08:21 PM |
#164 |
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Next time...we just let them pick |
JoFerret |
May-28-08 09:56 PM |
#170 |
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"Rasmussen Reports believes the race is over and that Barack Obama will be the nominee " |
Douglas Carpenter |
May-28-08 08:23 PM |
#165 |
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Shame its a delegate race that they both were aware of. Delegates to make small states count. |
barack the house |
May-28-08 08:59 PM |
#167 |
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I have a question. |
Blondiegrrl |
May-28-08 09:08 PM |
#168 |
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SIX MORE DAYS n/t |
livingmadness |
May-28-08 10:42 PM |
#175 |
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The individual with the most delegates Wins ! |
LibertyorDeath |
May-29-08 12:23 AM |
#179 |
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The supers are going to defect to Clinton over Puerto Rico? |
cemaphonic |
May-29-08 03:00 AM |
#180 |
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