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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 05:32 PM
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41. Yeah.....Torture doesn't work and it is immoral
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  -Does anyone know the circumstances of Mcsames pow capture? miles 2 go  May-28-08 06:36 AM   #0 
  - He wasn't doing something stupid; he was doing something immoral  alcibiades_mystery   May-28-08 06:38 AM   #1 
  - Great. Another "soldiers are baby-killers" opinion.  JustABozoOnThisBus   May-28-08 06:43 AM   # 
  - John McCain was a relatively privileged Naval officer  alcibiades_mystery   May-28-08 08:17 AM   #21 
  - That's war, baby! Kill a commie for mommy!  DemVet   May-28-08 06:53 AM   #4 
  - Didn't piss me off at all, actually  alcibiades_mystery   May-28-08 08:15 AM   #19 
     - Yeah, I got that impression too out of this one.  chknltl   May-28-08 06:20 PM   #36 
  - We *did bomb civilian areas and it *was an agressive  Clovis Sangrail   May-28-08 06:55 AM   #6 
  - It's a mistake to apply the moral standards of 2008 to actions carried out in 1965  anigbrowl   May-28-08 02:30 PM   #23 
     - It's a mistake to apply the moral standards of ______ to actions carried out in ______  BlooInBloo   May-28-08 02:31 PM   #24 
     - Right...because nobody in 1965 considered bombing Vietnam morally dubious  alcibiades_mystery   May-28-08 02:51 PM   #25 
     - Isn't that called "moral relativism?"  Bornaginhooligan   May-28-08 05:59 PM   #32 
  - Bombing civilian infrastructure, a prima facie war crime. nt  billyoc   May-28-08 06:43 AM   #2 
  - Fucking pacifists.  DemVet   May-28-08 06:56 AM   #7 
     - and it always has, and always will be, IMMORAL /nt  Clovis Sangrail   May-28-08 07:32 AM   #12 
     - War is sometimes necessary.  Katzenkavalier   May-28-08 07:51 AM   #16 
        - doesn't change the morality on the ground though... /nt  Clovis Sangrail   May-28-08 05:53 PM   #30 
     - Do I look like a fucking pacifist? I'd have bombed every nursery school in Iran in '79  billyoc   May-28-08 02:25 PM   #22 
     - a pacifist is somebody who wont hit back  Clovis Sangrail   May-28-08 05:58 PM   #31 
     - What's your opinion on the current war?  Bornaginhooligan   May-28-08 06:00 PM   #33 
     - mCcain would agree whole heartedly with this position.  chknltl   May-28-08 06:24 PM   #38 
     - You are unable to distinguish between wars of necessity and wars of choice?  impeachdubya   May-29-08 07:49 PM   #46 
  - Not exactly what you asked for...but related and entertaining.  chknltl   May-28-08 06:49 AM   #3 
  - You ever serve?  DemVet   May-28-08 06:55 AM   #5 
  - I'm wih you, DemVet  Condem   May-28-08 07:54 AM   #17 
  - See my response to DemVet post #27. It applies to you as well.  chknltl   May-28-08 05:19 PM   #28 
  - WTF????  chknltl   May-28-08 05:16 PM   #27 
  - Yeah we all know everything on the net is so true  RamboLiberal   May-28-08 05:32 PM   #29 
  - Sure it taught me the silliness that my fellow Americans can buy into if they want.  chknltl   May-28-08 06:12 PM   #35 
  - No, it does not.  DemVet   May-29-08 05:28 PM   #40 
     - No, it does not WHAT?  chknltl   May-30-08 01:04 AM   #48 
  - Did you?  Bornaginhooligan   May-28-08 06:00 PM   #34 
  - thanks for the link/ n/t  miles 2 go   May-29-08 07:41 PM   #43 
  - I think he was just shot down flying a routine mission  JVS   May-28-08 06:57 AM   #8 
  - Please don't go this route  Marrah_G   May-28-08 07:15 AM   #9 
  - I haven't looked into this at all  Clovis Sangrail   May-28-08 07:32 AM   #11 
  - I doubt that's the case  miles 2 go   May-29-08 07:43 PM   #44 
  - Well said!  mamalone   May-28-08 07:46 AM   #14 
  - He was a partier and so-so pilot. His name is what allowed him to be a pilot.  fasttense   May-28-08 07:31 AM   #10 
  - Thanks for the link, although, I don't know anything about it's validity.  jazzjunkysue   May-28-08 06:24 PM   #37 
  - He was dropping bombs to protect Amurikkens from godless communists  mitchum   May-28-08 07:42 AM   #13 
  - DU is better than this. Isn't it?  MethuenProgressive   May-28-08 07:47 AM   #15 
  - Please don't bring John McCain's military service or POW status into the debate.  Arkansas Granny   May-28-08 08:00 AM   #18 
  - Beating McSame on the merits will be easy.  VolcanoJen   May-28-08 08:16 AM   #20 
  - We gain NOTHING by attacking someone who is perceived as a war hero....  PoliticalAmazon   May-28-08 02:53 PM   #26 
  - We should not go there  Jersey Devil   May-28-08 06:29 PM   #39 
  - Yeah.....Torture doesn't work and it is immoral  FredScuttle   May-29-08 05:32 PM   #41 
  - I wasn't actually trying to make a campaign issue out of anything  miles 2 go   May-29-08 07:36 PM   #42 
  - Oh for fuck's sake. The guy served, and served honorably and with distinction. No one disputes that.  impeachdubya   May-29-08 07:48 PM   #45 
  - Stay away from this one. This is best one of those things completely left alone.  Zynx   May-29-08 07:50 PM   #47 
  - Personally, I've no desire to pursue this type of discussion  Lone_Star_Dem   May-30-08 01:10 AM   #49 
 

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