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Sat May-24-08 09:53 AM
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...For the previous references to the assassination, I would too. I really would.
But this is the third or fourth reference to RFK's assassination and, apparently, one too many.
We've all in the back of our minds feared this was a particular possibility with Obama, but there are some things you simply don't vocalize.
I think she'll recover from this, but not this election cycle.
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| -All she meant was that Bobby Kennedy's campaign was still active in June |
bigtree |
May-24-08 08:18 AM |
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Bobby Kennedy's campaign was only 2 months old in June |
boobooday |
May-24-08 08:19 AM |
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And why throw in |
Jawja |
May-24-08 08:21 AM |
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Just a glimpse inside Bill & Hill's private conversations. Sick. |
polpilot |
May-24-08 08:52 AM |
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How is it private if you know about it? |
JoFerret |
May-24-08 08:17 PM |
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I agree, but that won't stop the feeding frenzy.... |
flowomo |
May-24-08 08:19 AM |
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Then she should have SAID that! |
Bettie |
May-24-08 08:20 AM |
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Agreed. K&R |
DemVet |
May-24-08 08:20 AM |
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She could have said that. Instead, she said he was assassinated in June. Why the fuck would you brin |
GarbagemanLB |
May-24-08 08:20 AM |
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Thats a good point. nt |
Quixote1818 |
May-24-08 11:50 AM |
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AND that he was assassinated |
CreekDog |
May-24-08 08:21 AM |
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Why bring it up when making the argument why |
Jawja |
May-24-08 08:22 AM |
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because of the calls for her to quit now. She was making the case that, historically. |
bigtree |
May-24-08 08:24 AM |
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but if that actually happened, Clinton's remaining in the race would make no difference |
CreekDog |
May-24-08 08:29 AM |
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See how easy it was for you to make that case without assassination |
JenniferZ |
May-24-08 08:39 AM |
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so no one should 'mention' the assassination in any context, even a benign one? |
bigtree |
May-24-08 08:49 AM |
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Not in the context of 'why stay in the race'. DUH. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-24-08 08:51 AM |
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And you can go around spreading that lie if you want |
bigtree |
May-24-08 08:53 AM |
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You have reached the delusional stage where we are all liars. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-24-08 08:58 AM |
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You cite the newspaper but ignore the conclusion of the ones who interviewed her |
bigtree |
May-24-08 09:06 AM |
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Assassination is totally irrelevant to her point. So why keep |
JenniferZ |
May-24-08 08:59 AM |
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Jennifer you bring up a good point about how easily it could of |
midnight |
May-24-08 09:51 AM |
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I'm tired of this too. I would dearly love to move on to more |
JenniferZ |
May-24-08 09:58 AM |
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You forget that this also affected the Obama family and Ted Kennedy's family. |
gal |
May-24-08 10:28 AM |
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The editorial boards have torn her apart over this, and Axelrod knows better than to go after this |
MN Against Bush |
May-24-08 09:31 AM |
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Here's what she meant: |
earthside |
May-24-08 09:32 AM |
#79 |
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those interviewing her don't agree with that interpretation of her words |
bigtree |
May-24-08 09:43 AM |
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Worse than the crass insensitivity of her choice of example |
HousePainter |
May-24-08 08:56 PM |
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the first primary or caucus that year was March 12. It's a lousy |
cali |
May-24-08 08:58 AM |
#53 |
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but the GENERAL ELECTION DATE was the same |
bigtree |
May-24-08 09:44 AM |
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yes, not a fair comparison since most large states such as California |
unapatriciated |
May-24-08 10:29 AM |
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The problem with her statement |
Irishonly |
May-24-08 10:10 AM |
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from her statement: |
bigtree |
May-24-08 10:16 AM |
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Question |
Irishonly |
May-24-08 10:29 AM |
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I really don't know how to talk about Bobby Kennedy |
bigtree |
May-24-08 10:34 AM |
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I Didn't Say She Had A Motive |
Irishonly |
May-24-08 10:44 AM |
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Re: History |
SOS |
May-24-08 07:04 PM |
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In the best case, it shows how utterly incompetent she is |
Onlooker |
May-24-08 08:22 AM |
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She didn't even have to mention assassination. She still could |
JenniferZ |
May-24-08 08:23 AM |
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There were many other, more recent examples she could have used |
Mystery2Me |
May-24-08 08:23 AM |
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I agree with what she meant... |
Higher Standard |
May-24-08 08:23 AM |
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you ought to get to know your candidate better. |
burythehatchet |
May-24-08 08:27 AM |
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Her own words betray her intentions, and no amount of spin will help |
Cirque du So-What |
May-24-08 08:30 AM |
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the Argus editorial board AGREES WITH ME, not you're sick interpretation |
bigtree |
May-24-08 08:35 AM |
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I tend to disregard those who call me 'sick' |
Cirque du So-What |
May-24-08 08:43 AM |
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Oh, but you want room to accuse Sen. Clinton of having some 'bloodthirsty fantasy' |
bigtree |
May-24-08 08:50 AM |
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I calls 'em like I sees 'em |
Cirque du So-What |
May-24-08 08:59 AM |
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We can all watch the video you know. |
JackRiddler |
May-24-08 09:33 AM |
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here's the statement |
bigtree |
May-24-08 09:45 AM |
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It's YOUR fantasy on display. Not hers. |
JoFerret |
May-24-08 08:19 PM |
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Who's drinking the fucking kool-aid now? |
chascarrillo |
May-24-08 08:33 AM |
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I guess the editorial board who conducted the interview |
bigtree |
May-24-08 08:36 AM |
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Oh! Well since the editorial board agrees... |
BklnDem75 |
May-24-08 09:30 AM |
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what about RFK Jr.? |
bigtree |
May-24-08 09:46 AM |
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You mean Hillary's lone Kennedy endorsement? |
BklnDem75 |
May-24-08 10:07 AM |
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but folks outside of the family can play victim, ignoring his own response? |
bigtree |
May-24-08 10:18 AM |
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Nobody's playing victim |
BklnDem75 |
May-24-08 10:34 AM |
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RFK Jr wants her Senate seat |
Carolina |
May-24-08 11:57 AM |
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BULLSHIT |
JVS |
May-24-08 08:36 AM |
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bullshit yourself |
bigtree |
May-24-08 08:37 AM |
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Why do you keep opening a big old can of "Whupass" on yourself? |
symbolman |
May-24-08 08:51 AM |
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You apparently have no idea how secure with myself I really am. |
bigtree |
May-24-08 09:03 AM |
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Okay lonely Secure guy.. |
symbolman |
May-24-08 10:05 AM |
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I know myself. That's what's important, not how I'm viewed by the rabble here. |
bigtree |
May-24-08 10:14 AM |
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I think Ted Kennedy and the Obama family have a right to be offended. |
gal |
May-24-08 10:30 AM |
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give him a break |
antifaschits |
May-24-08 08:39 AM |
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I just got home from work, read the press accounts, heard Axelrod yesterday |
bigtree |
May-24-08 08:42 AM |
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I presume, that includes her bullshit, too? |
antifaschits |
May-24-08 08:46 AM |
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Then why do you keep coming back? |
think4yourself |
May-24-08 09:40 AM |
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I doubt he is being paid for his delusional posts. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-24-08 09:13 AM |
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funny though that RFK Jr. has offered the exact same defense of her statement |
bigtree |
May-24-08 09:41 AM |
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That's bullshit, the idea that this is "opportunistic smear" territory- this is wtf is wrong with |
jsmirman |
May-24-08 08:37 AM |
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bull shit! |
DaLittle Kitty |
May-24-08 08:38 AM |
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right back at ya |
bigtree |
May-24-08 08:41 AM |
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If you are a rational thinking individual who has listened to her words |
mrone2 |
May-24-08 08:40 AM |
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One thought... |
Mhegwood3 |
May-24-08 08:41 AM |
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No doubt a good portion is anger from those already angry but she could have referenced RFK w/o |
SemiCharmedQuark |
May-24-08 08:41 AM |
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They know that- they are just making it into something it isn't |
Marrah_G |
May-24-08 08:41 AM |
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Interesting point that...."fake outrage" |
windbreeze |
May-24-08 10:34 AM |
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Yes, I really believe the outrage is fake. People here hate her so much they will twist anything |
Marrah_G |
May-24-08 11:02 AM |
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it is not 'fake' outrage. It's real anger, hurt, and sadness that many of us here feel. To dismiss |
slinkerwink |
May-24-08 11:07 AM |
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Have you seen the reaction from the rest of the country on the MSM forums? |
gal |
May-24-08 11:29 AM |
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I don't much care what the MSM says- remember when they were all over Wright? |
Marrah_G |
May-24-08 11:47 AM |
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I don't know how old you are... |
windbreeze |
May-24-08 05:41 PM |
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It's not fake, Marrah. It really isn't |
JerseygirlCT |
May-24-08 05:51 PM |
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...and THEN it wasn't active. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
May-24-08 08:41 AM |
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Oh bullshit. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-24-08 08:42 AM |
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What a shame that all you can do is attack me personally |
bigtree |
May-24-08 08:43 AM |
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I'm begging you to come to your senses |
Warren Stupidity |
May-24-08 08:50 AM |
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I'm going to have opinions and I'm going to ocassionally post them |
bigtree |
May-24-08 08:52 AM |
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Attempts to frame |
H2O Man |
May-24-08 08:42 AM |
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Well, I'll be in good company where I stand. RFK Jr. Says No One Should Be Offended |
bigtree |
May-24-08 08:57 AM |
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Yes, Robert is |
H2O Man |
May-24-08 09:01 AM |
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point taken. |
bigtree |
May-24-08 09:07 AM |
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And you, as well. |
H2O Man |
May-24-08 09:15 AM |
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That's fair of him to say |
graycem |
May-24-08 04:09 PM |
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A Drunk Man's Word Is A Sober Man's |
chitty |
May-24-08 08:42 AM |
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"All she meant" is crystal clear..... |
marions ghost |
May-24-08 08:44 AM |
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Great post. Thanks. nt |
JenniferZ |
May-24-08 09:03 AM |
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Note that the Tweety's out there never show us the context - they never play the tape of the |
Seabiscuit |
May-24-08 08:44 AM |
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It's about time your side dealt with it |
Blondbostonian |
May-24-08 08:51 AM |
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Careless language |
Bavorskoami |
May-24-08 08:49 AM |
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You're attempting logic in a mosh pit. Good luck. |
Elspeth |
May-24-08 08:50 AM |
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So you don't find anything disgusting with her statement? |
skooooo |
May-24-08 08:57 AM |
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The OP's statement? Bigtree is as welcome to her opinion as you are to yours? |
Elspeth |
May-24-08 09:23 AM |
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The primary schedule was completely different in 1968. |
Crunchy Frog |
May-24-08 08:56 AM |
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Well, then why didn't she just say Bobby Kennedy was still fighting for the nomination in June |
my3boyz |
May-24-08 09:02 AM |
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EXACTLY. WHY bring up assassination? |
GarbagemanLB |
May-24-08 09:04 AM |
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Exactly. That was my point to him above. But he says that's |
JenniferZ |
May-24-08 09:04 AM |
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As were Eugene McCarthy and Hubert Humphrey |
BeyondGeography |
May-24-08 07:21 PM |
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No, that's not what she meant... |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
May-24-08 09:04 AM |
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She said "assassination" in a discussion about why she's still in the race. |
weezy2736 |
May-24-08 09:06 AM |
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Yep. It was a stupid gaffe. But, one that will happily sink her chances for VP. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
May-24-08 09:09 AM |
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Hillary has mentioned assassination before--She has a mental problem |
IndianaGreen |
May-24-08 09:12 AM |
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Hordes of newbies signing in w/ manufactured outrage |
OzarkDem |
May-24-08 09:18 AM |
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And where were you during snubgate/ bittergate/ facescratchinggate? |
MrsT |
May-24-08 09:40 AM |
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He was rubbing one out nightly in front of the computer. |
cottonseed |
May-24-08 01:41 PM |
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No, it is not. |
Arkana |
May-24-08 09:19 AM |
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The lengths some will go through to excuse this is astounding |
Terri S |
May-24-08 09:23 AM |
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You mean like RFK Jr.? Did he go to 'astounding lengths' in his defense of her? |
bigtree |
May-24-08 09:37 AM |
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You keep using Robert Kennedy like this only matters to him. |
gal |
May-24-08 10:37 AM |
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When you are running for President, you have to think carefully and speak carefully. |
CLW |
May-24-08 09:23 AM |
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Bigtree, I'm sorry. |
Kristi1696 |
May-24-08 09:25 AM |
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she had a full statement which included that comment. I just think this is overblown |
bigtree |
May-24-08 09:35 AM |
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And if it weren't... |
Kristi1696 |
May-24-08 09:53 AM |
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Well, I'm with Kennedy |
bigtree |
May-24-08 09:59 AM |
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That's how I interpreted it, too. And I'm not a |
LibDemAlways |
May-24-08 09:33 AM |
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Too bad for her that she didn't say that - in her repeated comments! |
JackRiddler |
May-24-08 09:36 AM |
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In a statement, Kennedy Jr. said: |
bigtree |
May-24-08 09:39 AM |
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That's very nice of him - as a Clinton endorser. |
JackRiddler |
May-24-08 10:47 AM |
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AMEN! The fevered fauxrage here is worthy of an oscar. |
Skip Intro |
May-24-08 09:39 AM |
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Would someone who is truly "ready on day one" |
phiddle |
May-24-08 09:40 AM |
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The information about this and Obamas minister has |
midnight |
May-24-08 09:44 AM |
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Maybe she did |
intaglio |
May-24-08 09:55 AM |
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heh, I've not criticized him in any significant way and I'm not going to start now |
bigtree |
May-24-08 10:03 AM |
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This honesty what I have come to expect from you |
intaglio |
May-24-08 03:40 PM |
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Then she should have said that. |
Andy823 |
May-24-08 10:00 AM |
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Exactly right, bigtree. n/t |
Shine |
May-24-08 10:00 AM |
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Then she should have said it that way. |
OurVotesCount-Ohio |
May-24-08 10:01 AM |
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bigtree - you are totally being biased here - accept she messed up and move on. |
asSEENonTV |
May-24-08 10:04 AM |
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Tell that to RFK Jr. |
bigtree |
May-24-08 10:19 AM |
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You gotta quit with the RFK Jr. thing. |
cottonseed |
May-24-08 01:39 PM |
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There are at least a dozen other examples, she conveyed, "June is the month for assassinations." |
ShortnFiery |
May-24-08 10:30 AM |
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Nice pro-clinton damage control |
cbc5g |
May-24-08 10:31 AM |
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She should have run a positive campaign |
cbc5g |
May-24-08 10:34 AM |
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I feel sorry |
odelisk8 |
May-24-08 10:45 AM |
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Still NOT okay to say, by the way, he was assassinated. there are many other references to make |
slinkerwink |
May-24-08 11:05 AM |
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Hitler campaigned hard against seemingly impossible odds. |
JVS |
May-24-08 11:08 AM |
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I can buy Clinton didn't mean anything by the statement, but god, what a stupid, tactless statement |
mystieus |
May-24-08 11:08 AM |
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actually she said "through June". It was only 4 days. |
mishte |
May-24-08 11:13 AM |
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Bullshit |
Carolina |
May-24-08 11:52 AM |
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Bill had the nomination wrapped up before June and she had made the assasination remarks before |
thewiseguy |
May-24-08 11:58 AM |
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Bullshit. |
RoadRage |
May-24-08 01:29 PM |
#139 |
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There were 100 ways to say it. She picked the absolute worst one. |
Skrelnick |
May-24-08 03:42 PM |
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Then why didn't she just say that - and leave the assassination remarks out? |
last1standing |
May-24-08 03:44 PM |
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Oh yes, poor little darling. Never mind Huckster's comments at the NRA Convention |
Overseas |
May-24-08 03:48 PM |
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The reason I think |
graycem |
May-24-08 03:58 PM |
#146 |
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Spin and twist her comments all you want.as. Rove would be proud. eom |
smiley_glad_hands |
May-24-08 05:42 PM |
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I think that's what she meant. The problem is, that's not what she |
JerseygirlCT |
May-24-08 05:47 PM |
#150 |
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NONONO!! "June" is racist code speak for "Hope he dies!!!" |
MethuenProgressive |
May-24-08 05:49 PM |
#151 |
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It's symptomatic of Hillary wearing herself out trying to make an argument that she can still win |
Hippo_Tron |
May-24-08 05:52 PM |
#153 |
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I am an Obama supporter and I think you're right about her intended meaning |
BurtWorm |
May-24-08 06:13 PM |
#154 |
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Clinton's intended meaning--for the 4th time...? |
Freda People |
May-24-08 06:34 PM |
#156 |
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Please God. Tell me you're kidding. |
Phx_Dem |
May-24-08 06:24 PM |
#155 |
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Here's Bigtree, here's a picture to illustrate your point |
Wolsh |
May-24-08 06:37 PM |
#157 |
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post like this are what make you so popular here |
bigtree |
May-24-08 08:06 PM |
#162 |
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You're right, I could take your route to popularity |
Wolsh |
May-24-08 08:12 PM |
#163 |
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take out the word assassination and put in hang nail |
grantcart |
May-24-08 06:44 PM |
#158 |
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You are correct. Even his son admits it n/t |
Combative Democrat |
May-24-08 06:47 PM |
#159 |
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She phrased it very poorly if that is what she intend to convey. |
ecdab |
May-24-08 08:41 PM |
#166 |
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