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48. There is a HUGE difference between an voter, a supporter and an apologist.
Many people voted for Hillary Clinton. Many were and are good Democrats. Most of these Democrats do not necessarily define themselves by their candidate and they will have other candidates, including our party's nominee,Barack Obama.

Supporters so blinded by their support that they accept any and all behavior from their candidate at the expense of the Democratic Party are not Democrats. Anyone who harms the Democratic Party for the sake of any one candidate is not a Democrat and should find no safe harbor in the Democratic Party.

Anyone who condones Hillary Clinton's Republican-like tactics and outrageous statements are as guilty as she is of dividing for the sake of ambition. With "Democrats" like these who needs Republicans?

Maybe the party is at a defining moment. Are we going to be the party of decency and integrity or are we going to be exactly like the other side? If Hillary Clinton apologists don't feel welcome in the Democratic party and they leave, so be it. The party will only be stronger for the house-cleaning.
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  -is there room for Clinton supporters in the Democratic Party anymore? IdClaire  May-24-08 08:05 AM   #0 
  - Alert The Internets!  bushmeat   May-24-08 08:07 AM   #1 
  - You may be a "lurker", but I think...  DemVet   May-24-08 08:07 AM   #2 
  - winning the white house  gaiilonfong   May-24-08 08:09 AM   #3 
  - It is my impression lately  floridablue   May-24-08 08:10 AM   #4 
  - she can find a way to win? When will you open your eyes. only stealing  roguevalley   May-25-08 01:59 AM   #80 
  - They have to accept that she's lost and support the nominee.  JVS   May-24-08 08:10 AM   #5 
  - thats exactly what I'm talking about  IdClaire   May-24-08 08:18 AM   #12 
     - Sure. Look. Hillary won't be running for anything this fall and if one insists on voting for her..  JVS   May-24-08 08:21 AM   #17 
  - Look Claire  SoFlaJet   May-24-08 08:10 AM   #6 
  - Oh please the Clinton's haven't changed  Geek_Girl   May-24-08 08:15 AM   #8 
  - look SoFlaJet  IdClaire   May-24-08 08:15 AM   #9 
  - what are you talking about  SoFlaJet   May-24-08 08:20 AM   #13 
  - Yes. nt  JerseygirlCT   May-24-08 08:43 AM   #38 
  - and 90% of them will vote for Obama just like all the Edwards,  roguevalley   May-25-08 02:06 AM   #82 
  - This is a myth.  americanstranger   May-25-08 02:20 AM   #90 
  - K&R this post.  meow mix   May-24-08 08:22 AM   #19 
  - What he said!  Hepburn   May-24-08 08:44 AM   #40 
  - I'm surprised people are still happy to be supporting Clinton.  dkf   May-24-08 08:14 AM   #7 
  - she actually did us a big favor yesterday dkf  SoFlaJet   May-24-08 08:17 AM   #10 
     - Yeah, I knew Michelle would save us in the end.  dkf   May-24-08 08:34 AM   #27 
  - Seems that's entirely up to the Clinton supporters  mitchum   May-24-08 08:18 AM   #11 
  - Exactly.  IdClaire   May-24-08 08:20 AM   #14 
  - Let me ask you a question. Which candidate, Hillary or Obama, has said more  Bread and Circus   May-24-08 08:20 AM   #15 
  - But but but  SoFlaJet   May-24-08 08:23 AM   #21 
  - I wouldn't trust Ferraro to iron my shirts  newmajority   May-25-08 02:18 AM   #89 
  - Obama has the nomination wrapped up  IdClaire   May-24-08 09:10 AM   #54 
  - Why should they need "help" to support the nominee of the party?  jgraz   May-24-08 11:36 AM   #69 
  - Hillary supporters need to face that fact. They are the ones whose denial is causing problems.  breakaleg   May-24-08 12:11 PM   #73 
  - That's right. Obama has reached out to Clinton supporters.  votesomemore   May-25-08 02:25 AM   #92 
  - There's certainly room for Clinton supporters.  Renaissance Man   May-24-08 08:21 AM   #16 
  - no room for discourse?  IdClaire   May-24-08 09:05 AM   #51 
  - Absolutely yes. When Obama said "cling to" & Rev Wright  Bucky   May-24-08 08:22 AM   #18 
  - The very question exposes the fraudulence of Obama's campaign.  Perry Logan   May-24-08 08:23 AM   #20 
  - you're finally right about one thing  Carolina   May-24-08 11:06 AM   #63 
  - So the obnoxious Obama supporters represent the whole party...  rucky   May-24-08 08:25 AM   #22 
  - did I say all Obama supporters are obnoxious?  IdClaire   May-24-08 09:07 AM   #52 
  - yes, if you support Democrats in the fall  CreekDog   May-24-08 08:26 AM   #23 
  - Of course there is room - we are half the party- DU does not represent the real world  Marrah_G   May-24-08 08:29 AM   #24 
  - For her supporters, sure. For her tactics, no  Asgaya Dihi   May-24-08 08:29 AM   #25 
  - Huh...  Lady-Damai   May-24-08 08:30 AM   #26 
  - LOVE YOUR POST  Carolina   May-24-08 11:09 AM   #64 
  - "Goddess of Shit", huh?  paulk   May-24-08 11:26 AM   #66 
     - Again your vote....your choice.....  Lady-Damai   May-24-08 12:09 PM   #72 
        - well, actually, your opinion will have no bearing on how I vote  paulk   May-24-08 12:40 PM   #74 
           - I don't need to QUESTION myself. I'm not full of hate. I'm full of sunshine.  Lady-Damai   May-24-08 01:43 PM   #77 
  - DU does not represent the Democratic part as a whole  MrWiggles   May-24-08 08:37 AM   #28 
  - There is room for all Democrats in the Democratic Party  WesDem   May-24-08 08:37 AM   #29 
  - Of course. But very little room for them on DU Primaries, which has become  Seabiscuit   May-24-08 08:39 AM   #30 
  - If it was okay for me to talk about how I believe many are  cboy4   May-24-08 08:45 AM   #41 
  - And if it was okay for me to talk about how I believe just as many  Seabiscuit   May-24-08 08:54 AM   #46 
  - and you complain about people dissing hillary. jesus. look in the mirror  roguevalley   May-25-08 02:12 AM   #85 
  - I'm thinking we need a couple more parties in the mix next GE  shadowknows69   May-24-08 08:39 AM   #31 
  - I expect  quaker bill   May-24-08 08:39 AM   #32 
  - I am a Hillary supporter.  ccharles000   May-24-08 08:41 AM   #33 
  - Thank you, Charles!  Hepburn   May-24-08 08:46 AM   #43 
     - Thank you.  ccharles000   May-24-08 08:50 AM   #44 
  - Absolutely! However, some want to opt out and vote for McCain  dmordue   May-24-08 08:42 AM   #34 
  - LOL, LIEberman supporters used to say the same thing  me b zola   May-24-08 08:42 AM   #35 
  - Absolutely.  JerseygirlCT   May-24-08 08:42 AM   #36 
  - Many Obama fans feel they can win the White House  cboy4   May-24-08 08:42 AM   #37 
  - Nahh  Asgaya Dihi   May-24-08 08:57 AM   #47 
     - I've already stated that if he's the nominee .. I plan on  cboy4   May-24-08 09:03 AM   #50 
        - I didn't suggest that you had.  Asgaya Dihi   May-24-08 09:15 AM   #55 
           - To quote DUer "zlt234" --  cboy4   May-24-08 09:32 AM   #57 
              - No fantasy here  Asgaya Dihi   May-24-08 09:49 AM   #59 
  - Absolutely. Most are really great democrats. And the ones  JenniferZ   May-24-08 08:44 AM   #39 
  - The Clintons didn't want progressives in the Dem Party  Larkspur   May-24-08 08:45 AM   #42 
  - The democratic party would not be a party if it weren't for unity between moderates and progressives  zlt234   May-24-08 08:53 AM   #45 
     - I'm more moderate  IdClaire   May-24-08 09:01 AM   #49 
     - The Clintons aren't moderates. They're corporatists.  Larkspur   May-24-08 05:51 PM   #79 
  - There is a HUGE difference between an voter, a supporter and an apologist.  Unbowed   May-24-08 09:00 AM   #48 
  - according to many (if not most) at DU - no.  paulk   May-24-08 09:10 AM   #53 
  - Absolutely Correct  LeFleur1   May-24-08 09:27 AM   #56 
  - Hillary and her supporters need to get behind the nominee.  Crunchy Frog   May-24-08 09:32 AM   #58 
  - right now there is no nominee  paulk   May-24-08 11:31 AM   #67 
     - Yes, and as long as Hillary and her supporters keep thinking that way  Crunchy Frog   May-24-08 12:01 PM   #71 
        - No - we're all Democrats  paulk   May-24-08 12:42 PM   #75 
  - Don't get it twisted...  BklnDem75   May-24-08 10:01 AM   #60 
  - Not sure many HRC supporters want to be included.  MilesColtrane   May-24-08 10:53 AM   #61 
  - There is nothing wrong with being a Clinton supporter, I may not agree  OhioBlues   May-24-08 11:06 AM   #62 
  - I have no problem w/ Hillary supporters - just Hillary  Triana   May-24-08 11:24 AM   #65 
  - yes  Autonomy   May-24-08 11:34 AM   #68 
  - Yes. Next?  Forkboy   May-24-08 11:41 AM   #70 
  - Who's trying to get rid of her supporters? Not me. I just want HER to quit  NC_Nurse   May-24-08 12:46 PM   #76 
  - You can't win without us  ZombyWoof   May-24-08 01:52 PM   #78 
  - The bigots--NO--they can leave and vote mcsame.  smiley_glad_hands   May-25-08 02:02 AM   #81 
  - DU, being a site forwarding Lib/Pro concepts is one thing. But the levels...  bridgit   May-25-08 02:11 AM   #83 
  - I don't think the Hillaryis44 faction represents  Jed Dilligan   May-25-08 02:12 AM   #84 
  - Of course. The primaries are almost over, so it's just about time to unify behind our nominee.  impeachdubya   May-25-08 02:15 AM   #86 
  - It is not our obligation to cater to Clinton supporters.  americanstranger   May-25-08 02:18 AM   #87 
  - The campaign, not the supporters, that have used division as a strategy happens to be  still_one   May-25-08 02:18 AM   #88 
  - Yep.  jaredh   May-25-08 02:24 AM   #91 

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