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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:07 AM
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67. let me cite to you from the Washington Post as to why this is WRONG
Smart candidates don't invoke the possibility of their opponents being killed. This seems so obvious it shouldn't need to be said, but apparently, it needs to be said. "We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California," Hillary Clinton said yesterday, referencing the fact that past nomination contests have stretched into June to explain why she hasn't heeded calls to exit the Democratic race. She was in an editorial board meeting with a South Dakota newspaper, and she didn't even seem to notice she'd just uttered the unutterable.

The nation's political science students, our future strategists and campaign managers, would do well to pay attention to this moment. There are taboos in presidential politics, and this is one of the biggest. To raise the specter of a rival's assassination, even unintentionally, is to make a truly terrible thing real. It sounds like one might be waiting for a terrible thing to happen, even if one isn't. It sounds almost like wishful thinking.

"She was talking about the length of the race and using the '68 election as an example of how long the races in the past have gone," Howard Wolfson said, missing the point. What she meant was: We can wait a little longer to know who the Democratic nominee is. What she said was: assassinated.

In fact, she had used similar, more carefully phrased language back in March, in a Time magazine interview: "Primary contests used to last a lot longer. We all remember the great tragedy of Bobby Kennedy being assassinated in June in L.A. My husband didn't wrap up the nomination in 1992 until June. Having a primary contest go through June is nothing particularly unusual."

The fear of a president or a presidential candidate being shot or assassinated is horrifying precisely because recent history teaches us that it can happen. We don't need anybody to remind us, and we certainly don't need anybody to remind whatever suggestible wackos might be lurking in the shadows.

In the context of Obama, Clinton's words broke a double taboo, because since the beginning of his candidacy, some of Obama's supporters have feared that his race made him more of a target than other presidential hopefuls. Obama was placed under Secret Service protection early, a full year ago. To be unaware that one's words tap into a monumental fear that exists in a portion of the electorate -- a fear that Obama's race could get him killed -- is an unusual mistake for a serious and highly disciplined presidential candidate.



link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

Smart candidates don't bring up the assassination of a young, charismatic politician as a reason to stay in the race against a young, charismatic politician.
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  -Oh come on! ezgoingrl  May-23-08 09:10 PM   #0 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-23-08 09:11 PM   #1 
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  - A pile on is coming your way in 5...4...3...2.....  LibraLiz1973   May-23-08 09:11 PM   #3 
  - I expected it. No worries.  ezgoingrl   May-23-08 10:33 PM   #42 
  - It is a gaffe of historic proportions  grantcart   May-23-08 09:11 PM   #4 
  - It's Hucksterbee level....  marions ghost   May-23-08 09:27 PM   #22 
  - Its worse because she would benefit from the assassination and  grantcart   May-23-08 09:50 PM   #37 
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  - EXACTLY!  anonymous171   May-23-08 09:22 PM   #17 
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  - weak  BrentTaylor   May-23-08 09:47 PM   #36 
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  - Thank you.  Ice-9   May-23-08 11:05 PM   #54 
  - Please read some of the thoughts of older members on this subject, such as  enough   May-23-08 09:12 PM   #7 
  - Sane comments. Thanks!  Double T   May-23-08 09:13 PM   #8 
  - OK I'll post something positive about my candidate  tularetom   May-23-08 09:13 PM   #9 
  - Okay, here's something positive about our nominee. He's our nominee.  ClassWarrior   May-23-08 09:16 PM   #10 
  - Ya know...  Beregond2   May-23-08 09:16 PM   #11 
  - Here is what is wrong with what she said:  keep_it_real   May-23-08 09:17 PM   #12 
  - Perhaps if you are not offended by her June assassination analogy...  DogPoundPup   May-23-08 09:18 PM   #13 
  - valor theft.  beezlebum   May-23-08 09:22 PM   #18 
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  - You are correct  Generator   May-23-08 09:26 PM   #20 
  - Hey, it's not just some of us pro-Obama DUers...It's also the MSM and the...  blitzen   May-23-08 09:26 PM   #21 
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     - true, there was not outrage on the MSM....But there was near-total consensus  blitzen   May-23-08 11:03 PM   #53 
        - You do not have the right to call me a liar.  murielm99   May-23-08 11:14 PM   #57 
           - Does the Washinton Post count as MSM?  blitzen   May-23-08 11:32 PM   #62 
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  - ezgoingrl ...  Straight Shooter   May-23-08 09:44 PM   #32 
  - ezgoingrl out of curiosity what age range are you in?  MadMaddie   May-23-08 09:44 PM   #33 
  - I know the 60's era changed the face of the country.  ezgoingrl   May-23-08 10:40 PM   #43 
  - I was 15 when JFK was assassinated,  murielm99   May-23-08 11:08 PM   #55 
  - Thanks for those links. I'll add them to my collection.  pnorman   May-23-08 11:55 PM   #65 
     - You are welcome!  MadMaddie   May-24-08 02:37 PM   #68 
  - a politician HAS never cited an assassination as a reason to stay in the race. It's the wrong  slinkerwink   May-23-08 10:00 PM   #40 
  - That is not what Clinton did. As usual, you Obama  murielm99   May-23-08 11:09 PM   #56 
     - hm, then why mention the RFK assassination?  slinkerwink   May-23-08 11:18 PM   #59 
        - To point out another example of a nominee not being determined by May  PurityOfEssence   May-23-08 11:35 PM   #63 
           - let me cite to you from the Washington Post as to why this is WRONG  slinkerwink   May-24-08 01:07 AM   #67 
  - I've learned so much  ezgoingrl   May-23-08 10:32 PM   #41 
  - It's politics sweety!  DogPoundPup   May-23-08 10:50 PM   #46 
  - Yea for you! Go Hillary!  liberalcommontater   May-23-08 10:47 PM   #44 
  - I gotta agree.  OnionPatch   May-23-08 10:49 PM   #45 
  - You don't go there. HRC has truly stepped over the line. She's NUTS and should not hold any OFFICE  ShortnFiery   May-23-08 10:55 PM   #48 
  - Let me tell you why people are so upset about this if you are having such a hard time getting it :  RBInMaine   May-23-08 10:59 PM   #51 
  - Under 1,000 -- on her payroll  WA98296   May-23-08 10:59 PM   #52 
  - Interesting,  Abacus   May-23-08 11:17 PM   #58 
  - Her comments were ghoulish.  Swamp Rat   May-23-08 11:20 PM   #61 
  - Apparently you're not grown up enough yourself  sfexpat2000   May-23-08 11:41 PM   #64 
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