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Fri May-23-08 07:37 PM
Response to Reply #58 |
| 65. Okie dokie, I can only hope you're young. |
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Campaigns go like this. Everyone who likes a candidate other than yours wants to WIN, not "destroy the party".  |
| -Obama's chance to make amends with Clinton's supporters...Seize the Moment!!! |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:16 PM |
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No. He should let her hang on her own rope, and be guiltless of any "forcing her out" of the race |
JVS |
May-23-08 07:17 PM |
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No, his outcome should be to win the General Election, and... |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:17 PM |
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yeah, and to do that he needs to be rid of her campaigning against him. So he lets this play out. |
JVS |
May-23-08 07:19 PM |
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Yep. Precisely |
cliffordu |
May-23-08 07:25 PM |
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Didn't many of us say that if she stayed in the race long enough... |
PoliticalAmazon |
May-23-08 07:37 PM |
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What must her black SD's be thinking lately? Sounds like David |
Tarheel_Dem |
May-23-08 09:11 PM |
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they will just use it to declare that everyone critical of her was being overreactive |
virtualobserver |
May-23-08 07:18 PM |
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Everyone except Obama that is... |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:19 PM |
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They won't consider it to have been a favor. They think she's entitled to his defense and the... |
JVS |
May-23-08 07:21 PM |
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This statement is not Obama's fault. Hillary, if it does end, ended it this way, not Barack. |
wanpete |
May-23-08 07:29 PM |
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Forget about fault. Focus on winning the GE. |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:35 PM |
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I respectfully disagree with you about this sfam. I trust Obama to do the right thing and I know |
wanpete |
May-23-08 07:39 PM |
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You don't get it. It's over. She is officially "D for DONE" as of this evening... |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:43 PM |
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I do get it, and I don't really appreciate your judgment of my opinions, as I have respectfully |
wanpete |
May-23-08 07:47 PM |
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I don't care what Hillary thinks or whether she gets humiliated...I do care.. |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:48 PM |
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Good point. |
Yael |
May-23-08 07:21 PM |
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OP makes a good point |
krawhitham |
May-23-08 07:20 PM |
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Wow...all these good points comments, but no recommendations... |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:33 PM |
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You're a nice person and I appreciate where you're coming from. I'll give you a rec. |
Kahuna |
May-23-08 08:52 PM |
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fuck her |
grassfed |
May-23-08 07:20 PM |
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Do you honestly think this is the end? |
Yael |
May-23-08 07:20 PM |
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I didn't say "add her to the ticket", I said... |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:21 PM |
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Thats the thing -- I don't see her "exiting" |
Yael |
May-23-08 07:23 PM |
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Maybe you haven't kept up with current events but this was a game changer... |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:32 PM |
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Then why should he bow to her? |
Yael |
May-23-08 07:39 PM |
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I'm truly amazed by the "Why?" comments. The answer is clear...we are not in the real race... |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:41 PM |
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Agreed. It would be the galant thing to do |
LittleBlue |
May-23-08 07:21 PM |
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Why should he? |
Wolsh |
May-23-08 07:21 PM |
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Why? Um, to WIN in the GE...why else? |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:22 PM |
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I don't think he will get the votes of the die hard Clinton supporters no matter what he... |
totodeinhere |
May-23-08 07:26 PM |
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'They are out to destroy the Dem Party' - that's libelous, really it is. |
Bluebear |
May-23-08 07:27 PM |
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They want to steal the nomination from Obama and in so doing create such a rift in the party that... |
totodeinhere |
May-23-08 07:30 PM |
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OMG who told you that? |
Bluebear |
May-23-08 07:31 PM |
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I am capable of coming to my own conclusions. |
totodeinhere |
May-23-08 07:35 PM |
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Okie dokie, I can only hope you're young. |
Bluebear |
May-23-08 07:37 PM |
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Yes, campaigns do go like this. But remember that Obama want to change that old style... |
totodeinhere |
May-23-08 07:53 PM |
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Well, I voted for Edwards. |
Bluebear |
May-23-08 08:00 PM |
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Oh please. Hillary is making a "femnist movement" out of her campaign.. |
Kahuna |
May-23-08 08:56 PM |
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yeah that's me, deaf dumb and blind. |
Bluebear |
May-23-08 09:05 PM |
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Believe it or not, Hillary supporters are not evil people...I even know some of them... |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:30 PM |
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I didn't say they are evil. If as I believe some of them are out to destroy the party, |
totodeinhere |
May-23-08 07:34 PM |
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I believe they are just as caught up in "the moment" as you are. You both have... |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:37 PM |
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Because it's over for her and he can lead the way as a healer. |
Bluebear |
May-23-08 07:22 PM |
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so if she says two or three other things that are even more egregious, |
gkhouston |
May-23-08 07:28 PM |
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Presidents should be "fucking magnanimous". Hillary's campaign is over. |
Bluebear |
May-23-08 07:31 PM |
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Has Hillary said her campaign is over? I think not. |
gkhouston |
May-23-08 07:35 PM |
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Nothing is unpresidential about what Obama has said. I don't believe he himself has commented on it. |
Bluebear |
May-23-08 07:36 PM |
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The spinmeisters will just accuse him of taking advantage in some way. |
anigbrowl |
May-23-08 07:22 PM |
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To hell with her and her POS supporters. n/t. |
apocalypsehow |
May-23-08 07:22 PM |
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Welcome to the McCain administration... |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:23 PM |
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Bullshit. The country is going to vote the Democratic nominee in no matter who it is this year. |
apocalypsehow |
May-23-08 07:26 PM |
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I suspect he will.....The tones from the campaign have been quite conciliatory. |
marmar |
May-23-08 07:23 PM |
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Truly, his campaign has been extremely measured as a whole. |
Bluebear |
May-23-08 07:24 PM |
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And then after the spanking... the oral sex. n/t |
IanDB1 |
May-23-08 07:23 PM |
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Awesome!!! |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:24 PM |
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I don't think it will work |
union_maid |
May-23-08 07:23 PM |
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Give hope a chance...yes we can... |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:25 PM |
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Sinister or "sexist". Everything Obama says, and every gesture he makes |
Tarheel_Dem |
May-23-08 09:21 PM |
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Then "THEY" will use it as a sign of "weakness." |
WA98070 |
May-23-08 07:24 PM |
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exactly...Let the fool go down! |
skooooo |
May-23-08 07:26 PM |
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And we'll all go down together...Welcome to the McCain administration... |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:29 PM |
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I agree actually. It would be a good strategic move for him- and Hillary would need to be a serious |
Yotun |
May-23-08 07:24 PM |
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I don't see that happening. He will say, though, that he believes she doesn't mean to insinuate he |
themartyred |
May-23-08 07:25 PM |
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I hope not...I hope he goes all Man-Bear-Pig for her... |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:26 PM |
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I'm not sure that Hillary knows this, nor do some of her more ardent supporters. n/t |
gkhouston |
May-23-08 07:31 PM |
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Attacking Olbermann? Please tell me you're kidding....nt |
Tarheel_Dem |
May-23-08 09:23 PM |
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... as far as he knows! :D |
Yotun |
May-23-08 07:30 PM |
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Interesting. |
H2O Man |
May-23-08 07:25 PM |
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meh. She would only use it to stand back up on solid ground and KICK him. We have GOT to |
K Gardner |
May-23-08 07:26 PM |
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As best he can, Obama needs to try to ignore Clinton's remarks. |
ladjf |
May-23-08 07:26 PM |
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Obama, time and time again, has been gracious to Hillary. He never mentioned her |
wanpete |
May-23-08 07:27 PM |
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He should double-down...be even MORE gracious... |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:28 PM |
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Hillary, especially in the last 2 months, has proven that Obama's graciousness is only returned with |
wanpete |
May-23-08 07:34 PM |
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This too shall pass... |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:39 PM |
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We do need unity sfam, and I think it is just as incumbent upon the Hillary supporters to reach out |
wanpete |
May-23-08 07:41 PM |
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Wouldn't it be nice if Obama played the "leader" here? |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:45 PM |
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No need to let it sink in, her campaign ended today. |
Bluebear |
May-23-08 07:29 PM |
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The way HRC rescued Obama during Snubgate? Plagiarismgate? Bittergate? Pastorgate? |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
May-23-08 07:28 PM |
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But that would infuriate his indignation junkies. n/t |
QC |
May-23-08 07:29 PM |
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The only problem with that is: we all know what she'll turn around and do if he does. |
BlooInBloo |
May-23-08 07:31 PM |
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kick him in the balls? to be blunt. |
book_worm |
May-23-08 07:33 PM |
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Basically. |
BlooInBloo |
May-23-08 07:33 PM |
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Take it as her due and attack him again the first chance she gets? n/t |
gkhouston |
May-23-08 07:37 PM |
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Yup. |
BlooInBloo |
May-23-08 07:40 PM |
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All these comments do is prove that we have lost focus just as much as the Hill44 folks have... |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:45 PM |
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You're just not going to get anywhere comparing Obama supporters... |
BlooInBloo |
May-23-08 07:48 PM |
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I haven't seen Clinton supporters propose Obama gets shot.. |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:50 PM |
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Why?? she's been beating him down every chance she gets. With Wright, Ayers, etc..... |
BrentTaylor |
May-23-08 07:32 PM |
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Take one guess....Truly, this just ain't that hard folks!!! |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:40 PM |
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You know he will give her the benefit of the doubt and respond in a classy, gracious way. |
Pirate Smile |
May-23-08 07:35 PM |
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You're so very right. He will be gracious and she will be ungrateful. Things just dont change. |
quantass |
May-23-08 07:54 PM |
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"his" people have been exceeding gracious today |
Hamlette |
May-23-08 07:35 PM |
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why? |
ninja8590 |
May-23-08 07:35 PM |
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No, it would be the right thing to do. And the "why" is CRYSTAL clear... |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:42 PM |
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Great Idea - i agree |
sloppyjoe25s |
May-23-08 07:43 PM |
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Not good enough for a recommendation though, ey? |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:47 PM |
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Many of your responses, sfam, are condescending in nature, as if no one can understand |
wanpete |
May-23-08 07:53 PM |
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Actually that is a good idea just like the BRILLIANT race speech he gave in Philli. |
quantass |
May-23-08 07:50 PM |
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Obama isn't responsible for cleaning up her mess. He's taken more high road than necessary already |
CakeGrrl |
May-23-08 07:54 PM |
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I care about Obama winning the GE, not Hillary taking responsibility...nt |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:56 PM |
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Obama doesn't NEED to make amends with Clinton supporters., He hasn't done anything except win. |
Spider Jerusalem |
May-23-08 07:55 PM |
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Obama needs to win the GE...to do that... |
sfam |
May-23-08 07:57 PM |
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Rescue her from herself? |
Spider Jerusalem |
May-23-08 07:58 PM |
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I must have missed |
gkhouston |
May-23-08 08:02 PM |
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That might be true if there was still a chance for her to continue...I don't see that... |
sfam |
May-23-08 08:04 PM |
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The question isn't what you see as "a chance" but what Hillary sees |
gkhouston |
May-23-08 08:15 PM |
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Hillary won't get to decide this. Her Supes and fundraisers will end this for her... |
sfam |
May-23-08 08:21 PM |
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brilliantly said houston...I'm very suspicous of the op's desire to harp on Obama "rescuing" her |
wanpete |
May-23-08 08:06 PM |
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That's right. I'm really a Clinton plant...as all my previous posts attest to... |
sfam |
May-23-08 08:09 PM |
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I think he Is putting her Campaign to bed |
Cnote1 |
May-23-08 07:58 PM |
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hopefully, without supper. n/t |
gkhouston |
May-23-08 08:03 PM |
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No Way, It is not his responsibility to rescue her. She will use it as a lever to continue. Once she |
Pisces |
May-23-08 07:59 PM |
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My disagreement with you on this is that I think she's already done... |
sfam |
May-23-08 08:01 PM |
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No. She wouldn't return the favor. In fact, she would probably find a way to backstab him on this. |
anonymous171 |
May-23-08 08:02 PM |
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agree totally! |
wanpete |
May-23-08 08:03 PM |
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Do you honestly think she can recover from this, whether Obama says anything or not? |
sfam |
May-23-08 08:07 PM |
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Of course she would. nt |
Kahuna |
May-23-08 08:23 PM |
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defend her character? - Obama should throw her under the GD. bus...! |
Imagevision |
May-23-08 08:08 PM |
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No.... |
pompano |
May-23-08 08:13 PM |
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Whether she meant it or not, or things similar to it, do you really think she can... |
sfam |
May-23-08 08:18 PM |
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I'm not sure I know... |
pompano |
May-23-08 08:50 PM |
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He will no doubt be asked about it |
Arkana |
May-23-08 08:16 PM |
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He will probably do that. Then 10 mins later she will do something else |
Kahuna |
May-23-08 08:22 PM |
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Her character should not be defended. She is disgusting. |
thewiseguy |
May-23-08 08:34 PM |
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As disgusting as the thought is to me, I grdgingly agree... |
mcctatas |
May-23-08 08:58 PM |
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This ain't Obama's burden |
Mystery2Me |
May-23-08 09:08 PM |
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Excellent point. |
Postman |
May-23-08 09:11 PM |
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*Obama's* chance? PFFT! It's *clinton supporter's* chance. |
BlooInBloo |
May-23-08 09:13 PM |
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No! It is not a "gaffe". She's not quitting, and that's one of her reasons. Period. |
iconicgnom |
May-23-08 09:21 PM |
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Do you know what 'amends' are? |
noel711 |
May-23-08 09:34 PM |
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