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43. ... as far as he knows! :D
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  -Obama's chance to make amends with Clinton's supporters...Seize the Moment!!! sfam  May-23-08 07:16 PM   #0 
  - No. He should let her hang on her own rope, and be guiltless of any "forcing her out" of the race  JVS   May-23-08 07:17 PM   #1 
  - No, his outcome should be to win the General Election, and...  sfam   May-23-08 07:17 PM   #2 
  - yeah, and to do that he needs to be rid of her campaigning against him. So he lets this play out.  JVS   May-23-08 07:19 PM   #4 
  - Yep. Precisely  cliffordu   May-23-08 07:25 PM   #26 
  - Didn't many of us say that if she stayed in the race long enough...  PoliticalAmazon   May-23-08 07:37 PM   #63 
     - What must her black SD's be thinking lately? Sounds like David  Tarheel_Dem   May-23-08 09:11 PM   #121 
  - they will just use it to declare that everyone critical of her was being overreactive  virtualobserver   May-23-08 07:18 PM   #3 
  - Everyone except Obama that is...  sfam   May-23-08 07:19 PM   #5 
  - They won't consider it to have been a favor. They think she's entitled to his defense and the...  JVS   May-23-08 07:21 PM   #10 
  - This statement is not Obama's fault. Hillary, if it does end, ended it this way, not Barack.  wanpete   May-23-08 07:29 PM   #40 
     - Forget about fault. Focus on winning the GE.  sfam   May-23-08 07:35 PM   #57 
        - I respectfully disagree with you about this sfam. I trust Obama to do the right thing and I know  wanpete   May-23-08 07:39 PM   #69 
           - You don't get it. It's over. She is officially "D for DONE" as of this evening...  sfam   May-23-08 07:43 PM   #75 
              - I do get it, and I don't really appreciate your judgment of my opinions, as I have respectfully  wanpete   May-23-08 07:47 PM   #80 
                 - I don't care what Hillary thinks or whether she gets humiliated...I do care..  sfam   May-23-08 07:48 PM   #82 
  - Good point.  Yael   May-23-08 07:21 PM   # 
  - OP makes a good point  krawhitham   May-23-08 07:20 PM   #6 
  - Wow...all these good points comments, but no recommendations...  sfam   May-23-08 07:33 PM   #54 
     - You're a nice person and I appreciate where you're coming from. I'll give you a rec.  Kahuna   May-23-08 08:52 PM   #115 
  - fuck her  grassfed   May-23-08 07:20 PM   #7 
  - Do you honestly think this is the end?  Yael   May-23-08 07:20 PM   #8 
  - I didn't say "add her to the ticket", I said...  sfam   May-23-08 07:21 PM   #11 
     - Thats the thing -- I don't see her "exiting"  Yael   May-23-08 07:23 PM   #19 
        - Maybe you haven't kept up with current events but this was a game changer...  sfam   May-23-08 07:32 PM   #51 
           - Then why should he bow to her?  Yael   May-23-08 07:39 PM   #68 
              - I'm truly amazed by the "Why?" comments. The answer is clear...we are not in the real race...  sfam   May-23-08 07:41 PM   #72 
  - Agreed. It would be the galant thing to do  LittleBlue   May-23-08 07:21 PM   #9 
  - Why should he?  Wolsh   May-23-08 07:21 PM   #12 
  - Why? Um, to WIN in the GE...why else?  sfam   May-23-08 07:22 PM   # 
  - I don't think he will get the votes of the die hard Clinton supporters no matter what he...  totodeinhere   May-23-08 07:26 PM   #29 
     - 'They are out to destroy the Dem Party' - that's libelous, really it is.  Bluebear   May-23-08 07:27 PM   #35 
     - They want to steal the nomination from Obama and in so doing create such a rift in the party that...  totodeinhere   May-23-08 07:30 PM   #44 
        - OMG who told you that?  Bluebear   May-23-08 07:31 PM   #48 
           - I am capable of coming to my own conclusions.  totodeinhere   May-23-08 07:35 PM   #58 
              - Okie dokie, I can only hope you're young.  Bluebear   May-23-08 07:37 PM   #65 
                 - Yes, campaigns do go like this. But remember that Obama want to change that old style...  totodeinhere   May-23-08 07:53 PM   #85 
                 - Well, I voted for Edwards.  Bluebear   May-23-08 08:00 PM   #95 
                 - Oh please. Hillary is making a "femnist movement" out of her campaign..  Kahuna   May-23-08 08:56 PM   #116 
                    - yeah that's me, deaf dumb and blind.  Bluebear   May-23-08 09:05 PM   #118 
     - Believe it or not, Hillary supporters are not evil people...I even know some of them...  sfam   May-23-08 07:30 PM   #45 
        - I didn't say they are evil. If as I believe some of them are out to destroy the party,  totodeinhere   May-23-08 07:34 PM   # 
           - I believe they are just as caught up in "the moment" as you are. You both have...  sfam   May-23-08 07:37 PM   #64 
  - Because it's over for her and he can lead the way as a healer.  Bluebear   May-23-08 07:22 PM   #15 
     - so if she says two or three other things that are even more egregious,  gkhouston   May-23-08 07:28 PM   #38 
        - Presidents should be "fucking magnanimous". Hillary's campaign is over.  Bluebear   May-23-08 07:31 PM   #46 
           - Has Hillary said her campaign is over? I think not.  gkhouston   May-23-08 07:35 PM   #59 
              - Nothing is unpresidential about what Obama has said. I don't believe he himself has commented on it.  Bluebear   May-23-08 07:36 PM   #62 
  - The spinmeisters will just accuse him of taking advantage in some way.  anigbrowl   May-23-08 07:22 PM   #13 
  - To hell with her and her POS supporters. n/t.  apocalypsehow   May-23-08 07:22 PM   #14 
  - Welcome to the McCain administration...  sfam   May-23-08 07:23 PM   #18 
     - Bullshit. The country is going to vote the Democratic nominee in no matter who it is this year.  apocalypsehow   May-23-08 07:26 PM   #31 
  - I suspect he will.....The tones from the campaign have been quite conciliatory.  marmar   May-23-08 07:23 PM   # 
  - Truly, his campaign has been extremely measured as a whole.  Bluebear   May-23-08 07:24 PM   #23 
  - And then after the spanking... the oral sex. n/t  IanDB1   May-23-08 07:23 PM   #16 
  - Awesome!!!  sfam   May-23-08 07:24 PM   #21 
  - I don't think it will work  union_maid   May-23-08 07:23 PM   #17 
  - Give hope a chance...yes we can...  sfam   May-23-08 07:25 PM   #24 
  - Sinister or "sexist". Everything Obama says, and every gesture he makes  Tarheel_Dem   May-23-08 09:21 PM   #124 
  - Then "THEY" will use it as a sign of "weakness."  WA98070   May-23-08 07:24 PM   #20 
  - exactly...Let the fool go down!  skooooo   May-23-08 07:26 PM   #30 
     - And we'll all go down together...Welcome to the McCain administration...  sfam   May-23-08 07:29 PM   #39 
  - I agree actually. It would be a good strategic move for him- and Hillary would need to be a serious  Yotun   May-23-08 07:24 PM   #22 
  - I don't see that happening. He will say, though, that he believes she doesn't mean to insinuate he  themartyred   May-23-08 07:25 PM   #25 
  - I hope not...I hope he goes all Man-Bear-Pig for her...  sfam   May-23-08 07:26 PM   #32 
  - I'm not sure that Hillary knows this, nor do some of her more ardent supporters. n/t  gkhouston   May-23-08 07:31 PM   #47 
  - Attacking Olbermann? Please tell me you're kidding....nt  Tarheel_Dem   May-23-08 09:23 PM   #125 
  - ... as far as he knows! :D  Yotun   May-23-08 07:30 PM   #43 
  - Interesting.  H2O Man   May-23-08 07:25 PM   #27 
  - meh. She would only use it to stand back up on solid ground and KICK him. We have GOT to  K Gardner   May-23-08 07:26 PM   #28 
  - As best he can, Obama needs to try to ignore Clinton's remarks.  ladjf   May-23-08 07:26 PM   #33 
  - Obama, time and time again, has been gracious to Hillary. He never mentioned her  wanpete   May-23-08 07:27 PM   #34 
  - He should even MORE gracious...  sfam   May-23-08 07:28 PM   #36 
  - Hillary, especially in the last 2 months, has proven that Obama's graciousness is only returned with  wanpete   May-23-08 07:34 PM   #55 
     - This too shall pass...  sfam   May-23-08 07:39 PM   #67 
        - We do need unity sfam, and I think it is just as incumbent upon the Hillary supporters to reach out  wanpete   May-23-08 07:41 PM   #73 
           - Wouldn't it be nice if Obama played the "leader" here?  sfam   May-23-08 07:45 PM   #78 
  - No need to let it sink in, her campaign ended today.  Bluebear   May-23-08 07:29 PM   #41 
  - The way HRC rescued Obama during Snubgate? Plagiarismgate? Bittergate? Pastorgate?  Truth Hurts A Lot   May-23-08 07:28 PM   #37 
  - But that would infuriate his indignation junkies. n/t  QC   May-23-08 07:29 PM   #42 
  - The only problem with that is: we all know what she'll turn around and do if he does.  BlooInBloo   May-23-08 07:31 PM   #49 
  - kick him in the balls? to be blunt.  book_worm   May-23-08 07:33 PM   #52 
  - Basically.  BlooInBloo   May-23-08 07:33 PM   #53 
  - Take it as her due and attack him again the first chance she gets? n/t  gkhouston   May-23-08 07:37 PM   #66 
     - Yup.  BlooInBloo   May-23-08 07:40 PM   #71 
        - All these comments do is prove that we have lost focus just as much as the Hill44 folks have...  sfam   May-23-08 07:45 PM   #77 
           - You're just not going to get anywhere comparing Obama supporters...  BlooInBloo   May-23-08 07:48 PM   #81 
              - I haven't seen Clinton supporters propose Obama gets shot..  sfam   May-23-08 07:50 PM   #83 
  - Why?? she's been beating him down every chance she gets. With Wright, Ayers, etc.....  BrentTaylor   May-23-08 07:32 PM   #50 
  - Take one guess....Truly, this just ain't that hard folks!!!  sfam   May-23-08 07:40 PM   #70 
  - You know he will give her the benefit of the doubt and respond in a classy, gracious way.  Pirate Smile   May-23-08 07:35 PM   #56 
  - You're so very right. He will be gracious and she will be ungrateful. Things just dont change.  quantass   May-23-08 07:54 PM   #87 
  - "his" people have been exceeding gracious today  Hamlette   May-23-08 07:35 PM   #60 
  - why?  ninja8590   May-23-08 07:35 PM   #61 
  - No, it would be the right thing to do. And the "why" is CRYSTAL clear...  sfam   May-23-08 07:42 PM   #74 
  - Great Idea - i agree  sloppyjoe25s   May-23-08 07:43 PM   #76 
  - Not good enough for a recommendation though, ey?  sfam   May-23-08 07:47 PM   #79 
     - Many of your responses, sfam, are condescending in nature, as if no one can understand  wanpete   May-23-08 07:53 PM   #86 
  - Actually that is a good idea just like the BRILLIANT race speech he gave in Philli.  quantass   May-23-08 07:50 PM   #84 
  - Obama isn't responsible for cleaning up her mess. He's taken more high road than necessary already  CakeGrrl   May-23-08 07:54 PM   #88 
  - I care about Obama winning the GE, not Hillary taking responsibility...nt  sfam   May-23-08 07:56 PM   #90 
  - Obama doesn't NEED to make amends with Clinton supporters., He hasn't done anything except win.  Spider Jerusalem   May-23-08 07:55 PM   #89 
  - Obama needs to win the do that...  sfam   May-23-08 07:57 PM   #91 
     - Rescue her from herself?  Spider Jerusalem   May-23-08 07:58 PM   #92 
     - I must have missed  gkhouston   May-23-08 08:02 PM   #98 
        - That might be true if there was still a chance for her to continue...I don't see that...  sfam   May-23-08 08:04 PM   #101 
        - The question isn't what you see as "a chance" but what Hillary sees  gkhouston   May-23-08 08:15 PM   #107 
           - Hillary won't get to decide this. Her Supes and fundraisers will end this for her...  sfam   May-23-08 08:21 PM   #110 
        - brilliantly said houston...I'm very suspicous of the op's desire to harp on Obama "rescuing" her  wanpete   May-23-08 08:06 PM   #102 
           - That's right. I'm really a Clinton all my previous posts attest to...  sfam   May-23-08 08:09 PM   #105 
  - I think he Is putting her Campaign to bed  Cnote1   May-23-08 07:58 PM   #93 
  - hopefully, without supper. n/t  gkhouston   May-23-08 08:03 PM   #99 
  - No Way, It is not his responsibility to rescue her. She will use it as a lever to continue. Once she  Pisces   May-23-08 07:59 PM   #94 
  - My disagreement with you on this is that I think she's already done...  sfam   May-23-08 08:01 PM   #96 
  - No. She wouldn't return the favor. In fact, she would probably find a way to backstab him on this.  anonymous171   May-23-08 08:02 PM   #97 
  - agree totally!  wanpete   May-23-08 08:03 PM   #100 
  - Do you honestly think she can recover from this, whether Obama says anything or not?  sfam   May-23-08 08:07 PM   #103 
  - Of course she would. nt  Kahuna   May-23-08 08:23 PM   #112 
  - defend her character? - Obama should throw her under the GD. bus...!  Imagevision   May-23-08 08:08 PM   #104 
  - No....  pompano   May-23-08 08:13 PM   #106 
  - Whether she meant it or not, or things similar to it, do you really think she can...  sfam   May-23-08 08:18 PM   #109 
     - I'm not sure I know...  pompano   May-23-08 08:50 PM   #114 
  - He will no doubt be asked about it  Arkana   May-23-08 08:16 PM   #108 
  - He will probably do that. Then 10 mins later she will do something else  Kahuna   May-23-08 08:22 PM   #111 
  - Her character should not be defended. She is disgusting.  thewiseguy   May-23-08 08:34 PM   #113 
  - As disgusting as the thought is to me, I grdgingly agree...  mcctatas   May-23-08 08:58 PM   #117 
  - This ain't Obama's burden  Mystery2Me   May-23-08 09:08 PM   #119 
  - Excellent point.  Postman   May-23-08 09:11 PM   #120 
  - *Obama's* chance? PFFT! It's *clinton supporter's* chance.  BlooInBloo   May-23-08 09:13 PM   #122 
  - No! It is not a "gaffe". She's not quitting, and that's one of her reasons. Period.  iconicgnom   May-23-08 09:21 PM   #123 
  - Do you know what 'amends' are?  noel711   May-23-08 09:34 PM   #126 

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