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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:38 AM
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15. ah, thanks for the info.
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  -NH asked all candidates to remove their names from the MI ballot. Obama agreed, Hilliary would not. Hamlette  May-23-08 10:14 AM   #0 
  - Aaaarrrrrgggggghhhhhhh.  rateyes   May-23-08 10:16 AM   #1 
  - yeah, I was curious and then shocked at how/why the names were all off the ballot  Hamlette   May-23-08 10:17 AM   #3 
  - According to FL law, you can only remove your name  hogwyld   May-23-08 10:26 AM   #11 
  - ah, thanks for the info.  Hamlette   May-23-08 10:38 AM   #15 
  - And Clinton's name was not only one in Mich - only Obama broke pledge - campaigned for "uncommitted"  papau   May-23-08 11:14 AM   #32 
     - Stunning! Please give me that link  KSinTX   May-23-08 11:37 AM   #37 
     - Here  rinsd   May-23-08 11:55 AM   #48 
        - Those are the Conyers ... you said Obama  KSinTX   May-23-08 12:12 PM   #65 
           - Papau said Obama, not me.  rinsd   May-23-08 12:22 PM   #71 
              - You are surrogacy in action  KSinTX   May-23-08 12:29 PM   #75 
     - How do you campaign for "Uncommited?"  wileedog   May-23-08 11:47 AM   #42 
        - Radio ads and various rallies.  rinsd   May-23-08 11:52 AM   #46 
        - I stand corrected, but seriously...  wileedog   May-23-08 12:04 PM   #56 
           - I don't think MI or FL should be a factor in decidning the nomination.  rinsd   May-23-08 12:08 PM   #58 
           - Well thanks for setting me straight then :)  wileedog   May-23-08 12:10 PM   #61 
              - The rewriting history jab was not at you.  rinsd   May-23-08 12:12 PM   #64 
           - Dupe  KSinTX   May-23-08 12:14 PM   #67 
           - Conyers do not equal Obama  KSinTX   May-23-08 12:17 PM   #69 
           - We're talking about a radio ad, not interviews or grassroots.  rinsd   May-23-08 12:24 PM   #72 
              - Just as candidates don't control the content of 527s  KSinTX   May-23-08 12:30 PM   #76 
                 - C'mon now. You're not naive enough believe that 527s are wholly separate from campaigns.  rinsd   May-23-08 12:47 PM   #79 
                    - Wink, wink ... let's you and me agree  KSinTX   May-23-08 02:11 PM   #82 
                       - Which would make sense if the examples discussed were nonaffiliated freelancers.  rinsd   May-23-08 02:17 PM   #83 
                          - And yet you reply to reinforce my point. Thank you. nt  KSinTX   May-23-08 02:25 PM   #86 
           - Obama was polling at < 23% in MI before the MI primary ....  Iceburg   May-23-08 12:18 PM   #70 
              - Perhaps in Sept he was polling that low. But candidates took their names off in early Oct  rinsd   May-23-08 12:26 PM   #74 
        - "At all"? John Conyers campaigned in Michigan for Obama telling Obama supporters in Michigan....  suston96   May-23-08 11:56 AM   #49 
        - Asked them to vote ucommitted so that they could later vote for Obama  LisaM   May-23-08 12:15 PM   #68 
           - Excellent point. Obama's treatment of the pledge pre- & post- IA & NH.  rinsd   May-23-08 12:25 PM   #73 
  - Too late for FL law. nt  rateyes   May-23-08 10:47 AM   #19 
  - Not too late. FL requires you sign an affadavit that you are out of the race completely.  rinsd   May-23-08 11:06 AM   #27 
  - NH did not ask anyone to take their names off the ballot. It looks like sloppy journalism.  rinsd   May-23-08 11:02 AM   #25 
  - What about that is wrong?  Deep13   May-23-08 10:19 AM   #4 
  - is it your position that the party should have no rules on when a state holds its primary?  Hamlette   May-23-08 10:24 AM   #10 
  - The "pledge" was NOT a DNC rule. It was a sop to NH, Ia  Romulox   May-23-08 10:31 AM   #13 
     - how'd that work for you this year?  Hamlette   May-23-08 10:39 AM   #16 
     - But she did agree to it did she not?  gal   May-23-08 12:02 PM   #54 
  - "Becoming" insufferable? "Becoming"...?  dchill   May-23-08 11:07 AM   #28 
  - Uh, Dodd didn't remove his name either. The pledge didn't require a candidate to remove his/her name  Skip Intro   May-23-08 10:17 AM   #2 
  - no, you would not be hearing a different chorus from Obama  Hamlette   May-23-08 10:21 AM   #7 
     - Dodd did not remove his name because he saw it for what it was...a political stunt  rinsd   May-23-08 11:05 AM   #26 
     - Then why did Hillary say "that election doesn't count for anything."  scheming daemons   May-23-08 12:10 PM   #62 
        - I can't argue that. She has reversed course.  rinsd   May-23-08 12:40 PM   #78 
     - Well, I can't agree with you there, because there was a real campaign in MI  Skip Intro   May-23-08 11:13 AM   #30 
        - Hillary: "The election (in Michigan) doesn't count for anything".  scheming daemons   May-23-08 12:11 PM   #63 
        - so why did all the others remove their..  stillcool47   May-23-08 02:40 PM   #90 
  - Dodd, Kucinich, Gravel were also on my ballot.  Notorious Bohemian   May-23-08 10:19 AM   #5 
  - To hell with NH. The Democratic Party needs to ditch minority rule, or else  Romulox   May-23-08 10:20 AM   #6 
  - Yep because us lily-white people are oh just so racist.  SIMPLYB1980   May-23-08 10:23 AM   #9 
  - I don't care what you are. Democracy is 1 person = 1 vote  Romulox   May-23-08 10:27 AM   #12 
     - primaries have nothing to do with democracy....its representation  Hamlette   May-23-08 10:37 AM   #14 
        - Any party that I support will surely be based on the concept of 1 person = 1 vote  Romulox   May-23-08 10:45 AM   #18 
        - What should be changed  Dumak   May-23-08 10:49 AM   #22 
        - Actually, general elections are  FlaGranny   May-23-08 11:21 AM   #34 
           - Nice try, but the current system is not 1 person = 1 vote for a delegate, either  Romulox   May-23-08 11:42 AM   #40 
              - I did not mean 1 vote - 1 representative.  FlaGranny   May-23-08 01:10 PM   #81 
                 - Each vote is not counted equally with regard to the awarding of delegates  Romulox   May-23-08 02:22 PM   #85 
                    - Nope, they're not.  FlaGranny   May-24-08 07:43 AM   #92 
  - To Hell with NH?  bunnies   May-23-08 10:43 AM   #17 
     - The tiny states made sure the MOST CONSERVATIVE candidates were put through  Romulox   May-23-08 10:48 AM   #20 
     - Kerry won NH in 2004.  bunnies   May-23-08 11:14 AM   #31 
        - Saints be praised! All 3 of the other early states went for W. nt  Romulox   May-23-08 11:37 AM   #38 
           - AND... both of our Repub House Members were ousted,  bunnies   May-23-08 12:09 PM   #59 
     - Just to amplify: NH was able to extort this pledge precisely because of its unearned privilege  Romulox   May-23-08 10:49 AM   #21 
     - And chances of NH ever changing our state constitution...  bunnies   May-23-08 11:17 AM   #33 
        - Well, then I expect you will face similar sanctions in 2012.  Romulox   May-23-08 11:35 AM   #36 
           - You're probably right.  bunnies   May-23-08 12:04 PM   #55 
     - Hey, bunnies, we'll go with you  Debi   May-23-08 10:55 AM   #23 
        - I'll bring the margarita supplies!  bunnies   May-23-08 11:12 AM   #29 
           - Nevada and South Carolina  Debi   May-23-08 11:29 AM   #35 
  - LoL. Dod and Kucinich and Gravel left their names on the MI ballot.  SIMPLYB1980   May-23-08 10:21 AM   #8 
  - I call BS sloppy journalism. Not a single candidate mentioned NH's request when withdrawing  rinsd   May-23-08 10:59 AM   #24 
  - NH Union-Leader Oct. 2007  KSinTX   May-23-08 11:38 AM   #39 
     - Freaking Hillary only cares about Hillary  Botany   May-23-08 11:43 AM   #41 
     - Thanks for the backup!  rinsd   May-23-08 11:49 AM   #44 
        - Buckley is a Clinton supporter  BlueDogDemocratNH   May-23-08 11:54 AM   #47 
        - so IOW, the NH Dem party did NOT ask the candidates to remove their name from the MI ballot.  rinsd   May-23-08 11:56 AM   #50 
        - My pleasure  KSinTX   May-23-08 11:57 AM   #51 
           - Agreed.  rinsd   May-23-08 12:00 PM   #53 
           - yeah, I hate it too. Clinton should stick to her guns. MI and FL don't count for anything. n/t  Hamlette   May-23-08 02:56 PM   #91 
  - she agreed not to particpate  mkultra   May-23-08 11:48 AM   #43 
  - By that reasoning Obama should not have run his national TV ads.  rinsd   May-23-08 11:50 AM   #45 
     - There's no way to run an ad on a national network that only plays in 48 states....  scheming daemons   May-23-08 12:13 PM   #66 
        - He could have waited a few days until after the election.  rinsd   May-23-08 12:50 PM   #80 
           - The ad only played in a couple of regions in northern FL  mkultra   May-23-08 02:32 PM   #87 
  - "NH asked all candidates to remove their names from the MI ballot. "  suston96   May-23-08 11:59 AM   #52 
  - No where in the article is there any proof that NH made this request  bamalib   May-23-08 12:07 PM   #57 
  - The "request" appears to be by Obama & Edward supporters in the NH Dem Party after the deadline  rinsd   May-23-08 12:09 PM   #60 
  - I wonder how Mi and Fl feel about NH.  McCamy Taylor   May-23-08 12:33 PM   #77 
  - 2 out of 50  stillcool47   May-23-08 02:38 PM   #88 
  - Well  MonkeyFunk   May-23-08 02:17 PM   #84 
  - NH needs to mind their own business  OzarkDem   May-23-08 02:39 PM   #89 
 

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