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Fri May-23-08 10:17 AM
Response to Reply #1 |
| 3. yeah, I was curious and then shocked at how/why the names were all off the ballot |
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I'm curious thought, why didn't NH ask them to take their names off the FL ballot? Anyone know?
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| -NH asked all candidates to remove their names from the MI ballot. Obama agreed, Hilliary would not. |
Hamlette |
May-23-08 10:14 AM |
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Aaaarrrrrgggggghhhhhhh. |
rateyes |
May-23-08 10:16 AM |
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yeah, I was curious and then shocked at how/why the names were all off the ballot |
Hamlette |
May-23-08 10:17 AM |
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According to FL law, you can only remove your name |
hogwyld |
May-23-08 10:26 AM |
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ah, thanks for the info. |
Hamlette |
May-23-08 10:38 AM |
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And Clinton's name was not only one in Mich - only Obama broke pledge - campaigned for "uncommitted" |
papau |
May-23-08 11:14 AM |
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Stunning! Please give me that link |
KSinTX |
May-23-08 11:37 AM |
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Here |
rinsd |
May-23-08 11:55 AM |
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Those are the Conyers ... you said Obama |
KSinTX |
May-23-08 12:12 PM |
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Papau said Obama, not me. |
rinsd |
May-23-08 12:22 PM |
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You are surrogacy in action |
KSinTX |
May-23-08 12:29 PM |
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How do you campaign for "Uncommited?" |
wileedog |
May-23-08 11:47 AM |
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Radio ads and various rallies. |
rinsd |
May-23-08 11:52 AM |
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I stand corrected, but seriously... |
wileedog |
May-23-08 12:04 PM |
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I don't think MI or FL should be a factor in decidning the nomination. |
rinsd |
May-23-08 12:08 PM |
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Well thanks for setting me straight then :) |
wileedog |
May-23-08 12:10 PM |
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The rewriting history jab was not at you. |
rinsd |
May-23-08 12:12 PM |
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Dupe |
KSinTX |
May-23-08 12:14 PM |
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Conyers do not equal Obama |
KSinTX |
May-23-08 12:17 PM |
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We're talking about a radio ad, not interviews or grassroots. |
rinsd |
May-23-08 12:24 PM |
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Just as candidates don't control the content of 527s |
KSinTX |
May-23-08 12:30 PM |
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C'mon now. You're not naive enough believe that 527s are wholly separate from campaigns. |
rinsd |
May-23-08 12:47 PM |
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Wink, wink ... let's you and me agree |
KSinTX |
May-23-08 02:11 PM |
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Which would make sense if the examples discussed were nonaffiliated freelancers. |
rinsd |
May-23-08 02:17 PM |
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And yet you reply to reinforce my point. Thank you. nt |
KSinTX |
May-23-08 02:25 PM |
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Obama was polling at < 23% in MI before the MI primary .... |
Iceburg |
May-23-08 12:18 PM |
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Perhaps in Sept he was polling that low. But candidates took their names off in early Oct |
rinsd |
May-23-08 12:26 PM |
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"At all"? John Conyers campaigned in Michigan for Obama telling Obama supporters in Michigan.... |
suston96 |
May-23-08 11:56 AM |
#49 |
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Asked them to vote ucommitted so that they could later vote for Obama |
LisaM |
May-23-08 12:15 PM |
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Excellent point. Obama's treatment of the pledge pre- & post- IA & NH. |
rinsd |
May-23-08 12:25 PM |
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Too late for FL law. nt |
rateyes |
May-23-08 10:47 AM |
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Not too late. FL requires you sign an affadavit that you are out of the race completely. |
rinsd |
May-23-08 11:06 AM |
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NH did not ask anyone to take their names off the ballot. It looks like sloppy journalism. |
rinsd |
May-23-08 11:02 AM |
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What about that is wrong? |
Deep13 |
May-23-08 10:19 AM |
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is it your position that the party should have no rules on when a state holds its primary? |
Hamlette |
May-23-08 10:24 AM |
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The "pledge" was NOT a DNC rule. It was a sop to NH, Ia |
Romulox |
May-23-08 10:31 AM |
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how'd that work for you this year? |
Hamlette |
May-23-08 10:39 AM |
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But she did agree to it did she not? |
gal |
May-23-08 12:02 PM |
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"Becoming" insufferable? "Becoming"...? |
dchill |
May-23-08 11:07 AM |
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Uh, Dodd didn't remove his name either. The pledge didn't require a candidate to remove his/her name |
Skip Intro |
May-23-08 10:17 AM |
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no, you would not be hearing a different chorus from Obama |
Hamlette |
May-23-08 10:21 AM |
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Dodd did not remove his name because he saw it for what it was...a political stunt |
rinsd |
May-23-08 11:05 AM |
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Then why did Hillary say "that election doesn't count for anything." |
scheming daemons |
May-23-08 12:10 PM |
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I can't argue that. She has reversed course. |
rinsd |
May-23-08 12:40 PM |
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Well, I can't agree with you there, because there was a real campaign in MI |
Skip Intro |
May-23-08 11:13 AM |
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Hillary: "The election (in Michigan) doesn't count for anything". |
scheming daemons |
May-23-08 12:11 PM |
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so why did all the others remove their.. |
stillcool47 |
May-23-08 02:40 PM |
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Dodd, Kucinich, Gravel were also on my ballot. |
Notorious Bohemian |
May-23-08 10:19 AM |
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To hell with NH. The Democratic Party needs to ditch minority rule, or else |
Romulox |
May-23-08 10:20 AM |
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Yep because us lily-white people are oh just so racist. |
SIMPLYB1980 |
May-23-08 10:23 AM |
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I don't care what you are. Democracy is 1 person = 1 vote |
Romulox |
May-23-08 10:27 AM |
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primaries have nothing to do with democracy....its representation |
Hamlette |
May-23-08 10:37 AM |
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Any party that I support will surely be based on the concept of 1 person = 1 vote |
Romulox |
May-23-08 10:45 AM |
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What should be changed |
Dumak |
May-23-08 10:49 AM |
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Actually, general elections are |
FlaGranny |
May-23-08 11:21 AM |
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Nice try, but the current system is not 1 person = 1 vote for a delegate, either |
Romulox |
May-23-08 11:42 AM |
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I did not mean 1 vote - 1 representative. |
FlaGranny |
May-23-08 01:10 PM |
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Each vote is not counted equally with regard to the awarding of delegates |
Romulox |
May-23-08 02:22 PM |
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Nope, they're not. |
FlaGranny |
May-24-08 07:43 AM |
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To Hell with NH? |
bunnies |
May-23-08 10:43 AM |
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The tiny states made sure the MOST CONSERVATIVE candidates were put through |
Romulox |
May-23-08 10:48 AM |
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Kerry won NH in 2004. |
bunnies |
May-23-08 11:14 AM |
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Saints be praised! All 3 of the other early states went for W. nt |
Romulox |
May-23-08 11:37 AM |
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AND... both of our Repub House Members were ousted, |
bunnies |
May-23-08 12:09 PM |
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Just to amplify: NH was able to extort this pledge precisely because of its unearned privilege |
Romulox |
May-23-08 10:49 AM |
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And chances of NH ever changing our state constitution... |
bunnies |
May-23-08 11:17 AM |
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Well, then I expect you will face similar sanctions in 2012. |
Romulox |
May-23-08 11:35 AM |
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You're probably right. |
bunnies |
May-23-08 12:04 PM |
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Hey, bunnies, we'll go with you |
Debi |
May-23-08 10:55 AM |
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I'll bring the margarita supplies! |
bunnies |
May-23-08 11:12 AM |
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Nevada and South Carolina |
Debi |
May-23-08 11:29 AM |
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LoL. Dod and Kucinich and Gravel left their names on the MI ballot. |
SIMPLYB1980 |
May-23-08 10:21 AM |
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I call BS sloppy journalism. Not a single candidate mentioned NH's request when withdrawing |
rinsd |
May-23-08 10:59 AM |
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NH Union-Leader Oct. 2007 |
KSinTX |
May-23-08 11:38 AM |
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Freaking Hillary only cares about Hillary |
Botany |
May-23-08 11:43 AM |
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Thanks for the backup! |
rinsd |
May-23-08 11:49 AM |
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Buckley is a Clinton supporter |
BlueDogDemocratNH |
May-23-08 11:54 AM |
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so IOW, the NH Dem party did NOT ask the candidates to remove their name from the MI ballot. |
rinsd |
May-23-08 11:56 AM |
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My pleasure |
KSinTX |
May-23-08 11:57 AM |
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Agreed. |
rinsd |
May-23-08 12:00 PM |
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yeah, I hate it too. Clinton should stick to her guns. MI and FL don't count for anything. n/t |
Hamlette |
May-23-08 02:56 PM |
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she agreed not to particpate |
mkultra |
May-23-08 11:48 AM |
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By that reasoning Obama should not have run his national TV ads. |
rinsd |
May-23-08 11:50 AM |
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There's no way to run an ad on a national network that only plays in 48 states.... |
scheming daemons |
May-23-08 12:13 PM |
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He could have waited a few days until after the election. |
rinsd |
May-23-08 12:50 PM |
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The ad only played in a couple of regions in northern FL |
mkultra |
May-23-08 02:32 PM |
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"NH asked all candidates to remove their names from the MI ballot. " |
suston96 |
May-23-08 11:59 AM |
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No where in the article is there any proof that NH made this request |
bamalib |
May-23-08 12:07 PM |
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The "request" appears to be by Obama & Edward supporters in the NH Dem Party after the deadline |
rinsd |
May-23-08 12:09 PM |
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I wonder how Mi and Fl feel about NH. |
McCamy Taylor |
May-23-08 12:33 PM |
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2 out of 50 |
stillcool47 |
May-23-08 02:38 PM |
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Well |
MonkeyFunk |
May-23-08 02:17 PM |
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NH needs to mind their own business |
OzarkDem |
May-23-08 02:39 PM |
#89 |
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