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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:18 AM
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If you can't accept Hillary on the ticket as VP you are just a big baby
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First, think about the miracle that is the Barack Obama's ascent to the top of the Democratic Party and be thankful for it. Second, consider that despite running a loathsome campaign (I'm sorry folks but Hillary's campaign purposefully exploited racial tension), Clinton deep down has a solidly progressive voting record on social and family welfare issues. She needs work on foreign policy as she was more often likely to side with Lieberman and Likud than the Democrats but hey, she won't be CIC, Obama will. Third, you have to respect her supporters and the millions of people (especially women)she represents.

I have to admit, by the commonly accepted definition I am a "Hillary Hater". I really don't hate her, but I do hate her brand of politics. Deep down, I think she is a good person corrupted by a bunch of dickheads (ex. Ickes, Wolfson), assholes (ex. Penn, Lanny Davis), and an over-rated ex-President who only won his first election because of a recession and a crackpot (Perot). So, despite all that, I will gladly accept Hillary on the ticket. If it makes a lot of women feel better about this race, then all the better.

I'm a white guy. I have no dog in the fight when it comes to racial or gender "identity" at this point, at least saliently. On a deep level, I "identify" with Barack for the simple fact my biological father abandoned me when I was a baby and I was raised by a single mom left to make my own way in the world. However, I keenly empathize with women and African Americans in their struggle for quality and recognition. Barack represents a lot to a lot of people. So does Hillary, even though a lot of us don't like her. We have to remember that we are all ultimately on the same team, the one that strives for equality, justice, peace, freedom, and shared prosperity. Jerkwaters like Mark Penn aren't on that team, but I think somewhere deep beneath the political layers of bullshit, Hillary is.

However, I won't listen to anyone who says Hillary lost because of misogyny or that Obama somehow played unfair. Obama basically outflanked and outmaneuvered Clinton to pull off one of the most amazing and intelligent campaigns that any of us have ever witnessed. Basically, his campaign was smarter. Axelrod and Plouffe defeated Penn and Wolfson. Yay! The good guys won. For once. Hillary was mostly a victim of bad advice and her own ambition. That doesn't make her evil. That she was willing to "go there" (meaning some of the lowest places we thought she'd never go) is both alarming and reassuring, this lady is not afraid of a fight.

Some of you will say "NO! She will activate the GOP Base!" Well guess what, any woman would. Any black on the ticket would. But we can't be afraid of that. I'd rather lose doing the right thing than win doing the wrong thing. Because if you win losing your principles then you have lost more than just the election. Chew on that.

I'd rather Obama not pick Clinton for VP. However, if he does I can live with that. I can donate to that. I can wear that bumper sticker on my car or plant that sign in my yard.

I personally think if you had Obama, Michelle, Richardson, Edwards, Hillary, Bill and Chelsea in all the corners of this country preaching the good word of hope, change, equality, peace, and shared prosperity we can't lose.

Well, at least that's how I feel today. Let's see what stunt they pull next ;)

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