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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:12 AM
Response to Reply #61
69. I see your post numbers changed.
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  -Can someone explain to me why Obama doesn't just agree to seat FL & MI??? Fire_brand  May-23-08 09:15 AM   #0 
  - i dont think obama is holding up this process  nomorewhopper   May-23-08 09:17 AM   #1 
  - he and his Harvard Atty's have been FOR MONTHS!!!  indimuse   May-23-08 09:35 AM   #18 
     - Harvard isn't a dirty word on this board...  mcctatas   May-23-08 09:48 AM   #33 
     - It is to the Yale attorneys -  Debi   May-23-08 12:12 PM   #97 
     - The last one to say no was Hillary....  gal   May-23-08 09:53 AM   #39 
        - Neither have a right to stop/not count the voters of any state.  mac2   May-23-08 10:10 AM   # 
           - The Democratic Party  Changenow   May-23-08 10:46 AM   #83 
  - If you give the spoiled child what she wants  nomad1776   May-23-08 09:17 AM   #2 
  - This post is not worthy of you.  mac2   May-23-08 09:31 AM   #17 
     - Thank you, I will take that into consideration  nomad1776   May-23-08 09:40 AM   #23 
  - It sets a precedent.  Nite Owl   May-23-08 09:17 AM   #3 
  - It isn't up to Obama.  demmiblue   May-23-08 09:17 AM   #4 
  - He will...  lisa58   May-23-08 09:18 AM   #5 
  - It's not his decison - never has been.  Dawgs   May-23-08 09:20 AM   #6 
  - That's a right wing (Hillary) talking point..  Webster Green   May-23-08 09:25 AM   #7 
  - What do you think?  gristy   May-23-08 09:27 AM   #8 
  - I think the fair thing to do is to not seat them,  Fire_brand   May-23-08 09:36 AM   #19 
     - Yes...and then change the rules to a primary all on the same  mac2   May-23-08 09:55 AM   #44 
        - South Carolina is small? New Hampshire is conservative?  hfojvt   May-23-08 11:55 AM   #93 
  - He has agreed to seat them many times.  madfloridian   May-23-08 09:27 AM   #9 
  - Seat only his delegates or his approved number is not  mac2   May-23-08 09:58 AM   #49 
  - He has agreed to whatever the committee decides...  mcctatas   May-23-08 09:27 AM   #10 
  - It's not Obama's call but it would make Hillary's big lie about having the  rainy   May-23-08 09:27 AM   #11 
  - He did agree on the proposal of 69/59 in MI  shraby   May-23-08 09:28 AM   #12 
  - This is a power struggle between the DNC and the states.  rucky   May-23-08 09:29 AM   #13 
  - Has anyone in the party who made this mess explained to  mac2   May-23-08 09:39 AM   #22 
  - If you seat them now as is then you violate the voters that did not vote .  gal   May-23-08 11:16 AM   #87 
  - Actually all 3 have to agree..  gal   May-23-08 09:55 AM   #45 
     - Seat them all low post number for Obama.  mac2   May-23-08 10:00 AM   #54 
     - Then "no way" it will be.  rucky   May-23-08 11:12 AM   #86 
  - Obama accepted the 69-59 solution out of Michigan, she rejected it  hnmnf   May-23-08 09:29 AM   #14 
  - Here's Why!  kennetha   May-23-08 09:31 AM   #15 
  - not imo...  AchtungToddler   May-23-08 09:42 AM   #26 
  - Interesting points  Fire_brand   May-23-08 09:50 AM   #35 
  - Low post number from party headquarters. Ignore.  mac2   May-23-08 09:59 AM   #50 
  - I think you nailed it. Add Obama's weakness on trade and the economy,  Romulox   May-23-08 10:10 AM   #66 
  - "you know, It's clear, this election they're having is not going to count for anything."  anigbrowl   May-23-08 11:45 AM   #90 
  - I agree.  mac2   May-23-08 09:31 AM   #16 
  - he played by the rules and withdrew his name from those states..  nebenaube   May-23-08 09:38 AM   #20 
  - You mean he agreed to those insane rules by the party?  mac2   May-23-08 09:42 AM   #25 
  - ummm...  mcctatas   May-23-08 09:52 AM   #38 
  - Repeat as necessary...  RUMMYisFROSTED   May-23-08 09:59 AM   #51 
  - It stinks yes BUT..  gal   May-23-08 10:00 AM   #53 
  - It was stupid.  mac2   May-23-08 09:46 AM   #32 
  - The rules DID NOT require any candidate to remove his/her name. Dodd didn't remove his either.  Skip Intro   May-23-08 09:49 AM   #34 
  - Right.  mac2   May-23-08 10:02 AM   #55 
  - Well a child could see that if we as a party tell FL and MI Dems their votes are worthless,  Skip Intro   May-23-08 10:23 AM   #75 
  - They pledged to not campaign or participate. .nt  anigbrowl   May-23-08 11:47 AM   #92 
  - I get that, but looking at where we are now  Fire_brand   May-23-08 09:51 AM   #37 
  - I am and I'm seeing a lot of low post numbers who support  mac2   May-23-08 10:04 AM   #58 
     - then shut up and stop replying to people with low post numbers  Fire_brand   May-23-08 10:16 AM   #72 
     - Hey, slick! I have a low post count. Got a problem with that?  DontBlameMe   May-23-08 10:31 AM   #76 
     - Did you have a problem with....  Hell Hath No Fury   May-23-08 10:49 AM   #84 
  - Which rule?  Romulox   May-23-08 10:11 AM   #68 
  - Well, there's that little thing of principles  AchtungToddler   May-23-08 09:38 AM   #21 
  - A principle of count all the votes?  mac2   May-23-08 09:43 AM   #27 
     - no, you're unprincipled  AchtungToddler   May-23-08 09:45 AM   #29 
        - Falsely concerned about it?  mac2   May-23-08 09:51 AM   #36 
           - The popular vote is a meaningless metric. It does NOT judge popular support. So there's nothing  Yotun   May-23-08 09:55 AM   #43 
           - Low post number you are lying.  mac2   May-23-08 10:00 AM   #52 
              - Of course it is high post count  Yotun   May-23-08 10:06 AM   #61 
                 - I see your post numbers changed.  mac2   May-23-08 10:12 AM   #69 
                    - Huh? Emm, I post? Explain your accusation now please!  Yotun   May-23-08 10:13 AM   #71 
           - It's only vote stealing if you pretend that there were actual, real, votes  AchtungToddler   May-23-08 10:09 AM   #63 
              - Even if they were, the popular vote is MEANINGLESS. See above. It doesn't matter!  Yotun   May-23-08 10:10 AM   #67 
              - Then it was voting steal and illegal.  mac2   May-23-08 10:12 AM   #70 
  - Because Hillary will make it about the flawed popular vote metric if seated as is. And because it is  Yotun   May-23-08 09:41 AM   #24 
  - Negotiator 19 posts?  mac2   May-23-08 09:46 AM   #30 
     - I'm sorry- I don't understand what you're trying to say...  Yotun   May-23-08 09:54 AM   #41 
        - 96 posts only.  mac2   May-23-08 10:06 AM   #60 
           - Oooh, excuse me mister I- have- more- posts- elitist- poster. Internet post-count bragging rights  Yotun   May-23-08 10:09 AM   #65 
  - i don't think he makes the call on that...  dionysus   May-23-08 09:45 AM   #28 
  - surely his will has a ton of influence right now  Fire_brand   May-23-08 09:55 AM   #46 
     - That's quite an assumption.  BklnDem75   May-23-08 11:42 AM   #89 
  - How does a Democratic Candidate..  stillcool47   May-23-08 09:46 AM   #31 
  - How does a party member have a right to determine who  mac2   May-23-08 09:56 AM   #47 
     - As a Democrat, I voted..  stillcool47   May-23-08 11:09 AM   #85 
  - Because little ones shouldnt always get their way by whining..  Bensthename   May-23-08 09:53 AM   #40 
  - He's always said he'd seat the delegations--the issue is the vote they hold  slinkerwink   May-23-08 09:54 AM   #42 
  - Because those states democratic leaders BROKE THE DNC RULES and the committee will  ShortnFiery   May-23-08 09:56 AM   #48 
  - I have no idea what's between Obama's ears... I'm just glad their HIS ears and not MINE  crankychatter   May-23-08 10:03 AM   #56 
  - I want him to be able to put this behind him  Fire_brand   May-23-08 10:09 AM   #64 
  - I would be concerned about giving an inch to someone who want to take a mile  JVS   May-23-08 10:03 AM   #57 
  - It's not his decision, and why should Obama agree to ignoring the rules?  yardwork   May-23-08 10:06 AM   #59 
  - They made a mess and should live with it.  mac2   May-23-08 10:09 AM   #62 
  - Who is "they?" Who made a mess? Certainly not Obama.  yardwork   May-23-08 10:34 AM   #79 
  - They also need to stick up for the other 48 states not just 2.  gal   May-23-08 11:27 AM   #88 
  - Because he wants to be the President of the USA?  Romulox   May-23-08 10:17 AM   #73 
     - The decision is not up to Obama.  yardwork   May-23-08 10:35 AM   #80 
        - Not entirely. But he has the power to support a common sense solution; playing out the clock  Romulox   May-23-08 10:42 AM   #81 
  - By seating FL & MI, Hillary will claim Obama is not legitimate because she has the popular vote lead  mystieus   May-23-08 10:18 AM   #74 
  - right, but who's going to buy that?  Fire_brand   May-23-08 12:03 PM   #95 
  - Should we reward cheaters and those who break the rules?  zulchzulu   May-23-08 10:32 AM   #77 
  - I agree and I think that is what will happen. The other possibility is that the rules committee wont  stevenleser   May-23-08 10:34 AM   #78 
  - FL and MI will be seated  hokies4ever   May-23-08 10:43 AM   #82 
  - hmmm  Fire_brand   May-23-08 12:01 PM   #94 
     - Think about it  hokies4ever   May-23-08 12:09 PM   #96 
  - Because it's not Obama's decision.  Bleachers7   May-23-08 11:46 AM   #91 
 

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