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Fri May-23-08 10:12 AM
Response to Reply #61 |
| 69. I see your post numbers changed. |
| -Can someone explain to me why Obama doesn't just agree to seat FL & MI??? |
Fire_brand |
May-23-08 09:15 AM |
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i dont think obama is holding up this process |
nomorewhopper |
May-23-08 09:17 AM |
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he and his Harvard Atty's have been FOR MONTHS!!! |
indimuse |
May-23-08 09:35 AM |
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Harvard isn't a dirty word on this board... |
mcctatas |
May-23-08 09:48 AM |
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It is to the Yale attorneys - |
Debi |
May-23-08 12:12 PM |
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The last one to say no was Hillary.... |
gal |
May-23-08 09:53 AM |
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Neither have a right to stop/not count the voters of any state. |
mac2 |
May-23-08 10:10 AM |
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The Democratic Party |
Changenow |
May-23-08 10:46 AM |
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If you give the spoiled child what she wants |
nomad1776 |
May-23-08 09:17 AM |
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This post is not worthy of you. |
mac2 |
May-23-08 09:31 AM |
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Thank you, I will take that into consideration |
nomad1776 |
May-23-08 09:40 AM |
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It sets a precedent. |
Nite Owl |
May-23-08 09:17 AM |
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It isn't up to Obama. |
demmiblue |
May-23-08 09:17 AM |
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He will... |
lisa58 |
May-23-08 09:18 AM |
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It's not his decison - never has been. |
Dawgs |
May-23-08 09:20 AM |
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That's a right wing (Hillary) talking point.. |
Webster Green |
May-23-08 09:25 AM |
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What do you think? |
gristy |
May-23-08 09:27 AM |
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I think the fair thing to do is to not seat them, |
Fire_brand |
May-23-08 09:36 AM |
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Yes...and then change the rules to a primary all on the same |
mac2 |
May-23-08 09:55 AM |
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South Carolina is small? New Hampshire is conservative? |
hfojvt |
May-23-08 11:55 AM |
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He has agreed to seat them many times. |
madfloridian |
May-23-08 09:27 AM |
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Seat only his delegates or his approved number is not |
mac2 |
May-23-08 09:58 AM |
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He has agreed to whatever the committee decides... |
mcctatas |
May-23-08 09:27 AM |
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It's not Obama's call but it would make Hillary's big lie about having the |
rainy |
May-23-08 09:27 AM |
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He did agree on the proposal of 69/59 in MI |
shraby |
May-23-08 09:28 AM |
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This is a power struggle between the DNC and the states. |
rucky |
May-23-08 09:29 AM |
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Has anyone in the party who made this mess explained to |
mac2 |
May-23-08 09:39 AM |
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If you seat them now as is then you violate the voters that did not vote . |
gal |
May-23-08 11:16 AM |
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Actually all 3 have to agree.. |
gal |
May-23-08 09:55 AM |
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Seat them all low post number for Obama. |
mac2 |
May-23-08 10:00 AM |
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Then "no way" it will be. |
rucky |
May-23-08 11:12 AM |
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Obama accepted the 69-59 solution out of Michigan, she rejected it |
hnmnf |
May-23-08 09:29 AM |
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Here's Why! |
kennetha |
May-23-08 09:31 AM |
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not imo... |
AchtungToddler |
May-23-08 09:42 AM |
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Interesting points |
Fire_brand |
May-23-08 09:50 AM |
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Low post number from party headquarters. Ignore. |
mac2 |
May-23-08 09:59 AM |
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I think you nailed it. Add Obama's weakness on trade and the economy, |
Romulox |
May-23-08 10:10 AM |
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"you know, It's clear, this election they're having is not going to count for anything." |
anigbrowl |
May-23-08 11:45 AM |
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I agree. |
mac2 |
May-23-08 09:31 AM |
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he played by the rules and withdrew his name from those states.. |
nebenaube |
May-23-08 09:38 AM |
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You mean he agreed to those insane rules by the party? |
mac2 |
May-23-08 09:42 AM |
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ummm... |
mcctatas |
May-23-08 09:52 AM |
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Repeat as necessary... |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
May-23-08 09:59 AM |
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It stinks yes BUT.. |
gal |
May-23-08 10:00 AM |
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It was stupid. |
mac2 |
May-23-08 09:46 AM |
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The rules DID NOT require any candidate to remove his/her name. Dodd didn't remove his either. |
Skip Intro |
May-23-08 09:49 AM |
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Right. |
mac2 |
May-23-08 10:02 AM |
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Well a child could see that if we as a party tell FL and MI Dems their votes are worthless, |
Skip Intro |
May-23-08 10:23 AM |
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They pledged to not campaign or participate. .nt |
anigbrowl |
May-23-08 11:47 AM |
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I get that, but looking at where we are now |
Fire_brand |
May-23-08 09:51 AM |
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I am and I'm seeing a lot of low post numbers who support |
mac2 |
May-23-08 10:04 AM |
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then shut up and stop replying to people with low post numbers |
Fire_brand |
May-23-08 10:16 AM |
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Hey, slick! I have a low post count. Got a problem with that? |
DontBlameMe |
May-23-08 10:31 AM |
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Did you have a problem with.... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
May-23-08 10:49 AM |
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Which rule? |
Romulox |
May-23-08 10:11 AM |
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Well, there's that little thing of principles |
AchtungToddler |
May-23-08 09:38 AM |
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A principle of count all the votes? |
mac2 |
May-23-08 09:43 AM |
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no, you're unprincipled |
AchtungToddler |
May-23-08 09:45 AM |
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Falsely concerned about it? |
mac2 |
May-23-08 09:51 AM |
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The popular vote is a meaningless metric. It does NOT judge popular support. So there's nothing |
Yotun |
May-23-08 09:55 AM |
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Low post number you are lying. |
mac2 |
May-23-08 10:00 AM |
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Of course it is high post count |
Yotun |
May-23-08 10:06 AM |
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I see your post numbers changed. |
mac2 |
May-23-08 10:12 AM |
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Huh? Emm, I post? Explain your accusation now please! |
Yotun |
May-23-08 10:13 AM |
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It's only vote stealing if you pretend that there were actual, real, votes |
AchtungToddler |
May-23-08 10:09 AM |
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Even if they were, the popular vote is MEANINGLESS. See above. It doesn't matter! |
Yotun |
May-23-08 10:10 AM |
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Then it was voting steal and illegal. |
mac2 |
May-23-08 10:12 AM |
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Because Hillary will make it about the flawed popular vote metric if seated as is. And because it is |
Yotun |
May-23-08 09:41 AM |
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Negotiator 19 posts? |
mac2 |
May-23-08 09:46 AM |
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I'm sorry- I don't understand what you're trying to say... |
Yotun |
May-23-08 09:54 AM |
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96 posts only. |
mac2 |
May-23-08 10:06 AM |
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Oooh, excuse me mister I- have- more- posts- elitist- poster. Internet post-count bragging rights |
Yotun |
May-23-08 10:09 AM |
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i don't think he makes the call on that... |
dionysus |
May-23-08 09:45 AM |
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surely his will has a ton of influence right now |
Fire_brand |
May-23-08 09:55 AM |
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That's quite an assumption. |
BklnDem75 |
May-23-08 11:42 AM |
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How does a Democratic Candidate.. |
stillcool47 |
May-23-08 09:46 AM |
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How does a party member have a right to determine who |
mac2 |
May-23-08 09:56 AM |
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As a Democrat, I voted.. |
stillcool47 |
May-23-08 11:09 AM |
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Because little ones shouldnt always get their way by whining.. |
Bensthename |
May-23-08 09:53 AM |
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He's always said he'd seat the delegations--the issue is the vote they hold |
slinkerwink |
May-23-08 09:54 AM |
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Because those states democratic leaders BROKE THE DNC RULES and the committee will |
ShortnFiery |
May-23-08 09:56 AM |
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I have no idea what's between Obama's ears... I'm just glad their HIS ears and not MINE |
crankychatter |
May-23-08 10:03 AM |
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I want him to be able to put this behind him |
Fire_brand |
May-23-08 10:09 AM |
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I would be concerned about giving an inch to someone who want to take a mile |
JVS |
May-23-08 10:03 AM |
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It's not his decision, and why should Obama agree to ignoring the rules? |
yardwork |
May-23-08 10:06 AM |
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They made a mess and should live with it. |
mac2 |
May-23-08 10:09 AM |
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Who is "they?" Who made a mess? Certainly not Obama. |
yardwork |
May-23-08 10:34 AM |
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They also need to stick up for the other 48 states not just 2. |
gal |
May-23-08 11:27 AM |
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Because he wants to be the President of the USA? |
Romulox |
May-23-08 10:17 AM |
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The decision is not up to Obama. |
yardwork |
May-23-08 10:35 AM |
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Not entirely. But he has the power to support a common sense solution; playing out the clock |
Romulox |
May-23-08 10:42 AM |
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By seating FL & MI, Hillary will claim Obama is not legitimate because she has the popular vote lead |
mystieus |
May-23-08 10:18 AM |
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right, but who's going to buy that? |
Fire_brand |
May-23-08 12:03 PM |
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Should we reward cheaters and those who break the rules? |
zulchzulu |
May-23-08 10:32 AM |
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I agree and I think that is what will happen. The other possibility is that the rules committee wont |
stevenleser |
May-23-08 10:34 AM |
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FL and MI will be seated |
hokies4ever |
May-23-08 10:43 AM |
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hmmm |
Fire_brand |
May-23-08 12:01 PM |
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Think about it |
hokies4ever |
May-23-08 12:09 PM |
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Because it's not Obama's decision. |
Bleachers7 |
May-23-08 11:46 AM |
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