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197. Ben, I found part of your post verbatim on BartCop
http://www.bartcop.com/2154.htm

"Even the biggest Obama fans will have to admit that he had NO CHANCE to be president
as long as the mutual love and respect between blacks and the Clintons continued.

The Clintons had to become racists.

Can anybody argue with that?"
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  -the biggest Obama fans will have to admit that he had NO CHANCE BenDavid  May-23-08 12:39 AM   #0 
  - Here's a clue...  mcctatas   May-23-08 12:40 AM   #1 
  - link to the quote, please. nt  jasmine621   May-23-08 12:42 AM   # 
  - ...  mcctatas   May-23-08 12:44 AM   #7 
     - Your quoting a post on the DU, which is not a source  WillyToad   May-23-08 07:22 AM   #53 
        - The poster was referring to the OP  FredScuttle   May-23-08 08:03 AM   #65 
        - ...  mcctatas   May-23-08 08:58 AM   #97 
        - That's because the whole subthread that started after it was said got deleted  JVS   May-25-08 01:15 PM   #198 
  - naive are we? - sorry but Ben David is spot on - Obama's playing the race card worked  papau   May-23-08 12:58 AM   #10 
  - Can you give me a quote FROM Obama saying any such thing?  mcctatas   May-23-08 01:07 AM   #11 
  - "vagina-loaded"...  libnnc   May-23-08 01:18 AM   #15 
  - please send me to a vagina loaded state please!  nomorewhopper   May-23-08 08:30 AM   #78 
     - For some reason....  mcctatas   May-23-08 09:34 AM   #116 
     - That's why Senator Clinton did so well in West Vajayjay?  MilesColtrane   May-23-08 02:21 PM   #150 
  - Ok, funniest thing I've read all week  jsmirman   May-23-08 01:36 AM   #22 
  - Barack, Michelle and Oprah!  indimuse   May-23-08 08:22 AM   #72 
     - Ummm....  mcctatas   May-23-08 09:12 AM   #100 
  - Do you think you'll hang around here after she steps down??  cliffordu   May-23-08 01:42 AM   #27 
  - Did it ever occur to you that Obama is just...  dchill   May-23-08 02:54 PM   #160 
  - lol... I can never get enough of that picture. nt  mckeown1128   May-23-08 08:32 AM   #82 
  - it's really sad when people can only show their ignorance  dwickham   May-23-08 12:41 AM   #2 
  - They didn't have to become racists  Gore1FL   May-23-08 12:42 AM   #3 
  - I don't argue with racists  FredScuttle   May-23-08 12:42 AM   #4 
  - Are you saying 91% of African Americans voting for Obama is racist? em  Mike L   May-23-08 01:45 PM   #146 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-23-08 12:43 AM   #5 
  - I disagree.  democrattotheend   May-23-08 12:44 AM   #6 
  - Feel free not to answer this if you find it offensive, but...  MercutioATC   May-23-08 12:49 AM   #8 
  - Horse Feathers!  ClayZ   May-23-08 01:36 AM   #23 
  - Excellent...  Doityourself   May-23-08 07:11 AM   #46 
  - I'm noticing a trend  TornadoTN   May-23-08 07:38 AM   #59 
  - I've thought about that, too...  Liberal_Stalwart71   May-23-08 08:46 AM   #89 
  - if you keep repeating it to yourself, you belive it...still FALSE  asSEENonTV   May-23-08 12:55 AM   #9 
  - ...  blogslut   May-23-08 01:09 AM   #12 
  - Homer Fail  SlipperySlope   May-23-08 01:14 AM   #13 
  - All aboard!! The Obama general election train is leaving the station  bluestateguy   May-23-08 01:15 AM   #14 
  - This is crap. Clintons thought they could get away with it and then blame it on Obama.  papapi   May-23-08 01:19 AM   #16 
  - Clinton: Racist loser or just loser?  billyoc   May-23-08 01:21 AM   #17 
  - ...  mcctatas   May-23-08 01:22 AM   #18 
  - ...  NanceGreggs   May-23-08 01:27 AM   #19 
  - Merlot, Cabernet, Pinot Noir, Zinfandel, or Chablis (Chardonnay)?  TahitiNut   May-23-08 01:30 AM   #20 
     - Merlot!  NanceGreggs   May-23-08 01:38 AM   #25 
        - Well... sake goes with sushi. A good Merlot is OK for sipping.  TahitiNut   May-23-08 01:45 AM   #29 
           - Thanks for the tip ...  NanceGreggs   May-23-08 01:47 AM   #31 
              - Wine? Sake? ELITISTS!!!  FatDave   May-23-08 08:58 AM   #96 
  - Seems to me Clinton has won many things, both of them in their life times...  AuntPatsy   May-23-08 01:45 AM   #28 
  - just when exactly did the star of david become the star of stupid?  jsmirman   May-23-08 01:34 AM   #21 
  - I'd like to hear more of your thoughts on this...  Liberal_Stalwart71   May-23-08 08:50 AM   #92 
     - The Jesus Freaks are useful idiots to the hardcore Orthodox types  Oregonian   May-23-08 10:08 AM   #126 
     - I'm going to try to answer more later- but let's start with an oppressive closed circuit of ideas  jsmirman   May-23-08 10:13 AM   #128 
  - It was the other way around. Clinton surrogates started making black references  Quixote1818   May-23-08 01:37 AM   #24 
  - Bicycle Fail  SlipperySlope   May-23-08 01:41 AM   #26 
  - That's the thing about white people who claim to be so non-racists.  Withywindle   May-23-08 01:46 AM   #30 
  - Your perceptions have been manipulated  bhikkhu   May-23-08 01:52 AM   #32 
  - McCamy has done the usual self referenced rubbish n/t  intaglio   May-23-08 03:12 AM   #33 
     - Well, there are good ones as well.  bhikkhu   May-23-08 09:23 AM   #109 
  - AA's refusal to vote for a white candidate when there is a viable black candidate will change the dy  VotesForWomen   May-23-08 03:13 AM   #34 
  - So let me get this straight  gmudem   May-23-08 03:15 AM   #35 
  - That's exactly what he/she said!  ej510   May-23-08 03:28 AM   #37 
  - Disturbing that someone who calls themself  gmudem   May-23-08 03:32 AM   #38 
     - So "votesforwomen" thinks it is bad for AAs to support a black candidate  ecdab   May-23-08 04:05 AM   #40 
     - As usual, we won't get an answer to that  TornadoTN   May-23-08 07:40 AM   #60 
     - you just got one, and you see what you want to see. that's what happenes when you're in a cult.  VotesForWomen   May-23-08 03:54 PM   #170 
     - Well, at least we won't get an intelligible answer, nor an answer to  ecdab   May-23-08 04:06 PM   #175 
     - open a history book, you ignorant O-ist. "Votes" is a noun. jeezus christ.  VotesForWomen   May-23-08 03:53 PM   #169 
     - right; anybody that doesn't support Obama is a racist. that's really good for the dem party.  VotesForWomen   May-23-08 04:05 PM   #174 
     - Twist words much?  CaptJasHook   May-23-08 08:15 PM   #190 
     - V4W is a woman first and a Democrat second. Just like her candidate.  CaptJasHook   May-23-08 08:14 PM   #189 
  - Hillary is 'perfectly viable,' and yet women aren't voting 90% for her, neither are whites.  VotesForWomen   May-23-08 04:03 PM   #172 
     - So what is an acceptable percentage for you?  gmudem   May-23-08 04:09 PM   #177 
        - the numbers don't lie, and race-based voting is not good for the dem party.  VotesForWomen   May-23-08 04:13 PM   #181 
           - I asked you a question  gmudem   May-23-08 06:56 PM   #187 
  - This should be framed  charlie   May-23-08 03:44 AM   #39 
  - Of course not because we black people suck and don't know jack shit  Doityourself   May-23-08 07:13 AM   #49 
  - Oh, and according to Gore Vidal, "you people" will be rioting and killing in the streets  TornadoTN   May-23-08 07:42 AM   #62 
  - Yeah...never say protest, but instead they say blacks will RIOT! Big difference...  Doityourself   May-23-08 10:14 AM   #129 
  - Man, why we gotta be so ign'ant and prejudical?  ContraBass Black   May-23-08 09:27 AM   #112 
  - 90% voting based on race.  VotesForWomen   May-23-08 04:12 PM   #179 
  - are you saying that only black people can accurately discern that O is the best candidate, that's wh  VotesForWomen   May-23-08 04:11 PM   #178 
  - Charming. Please take your racist shit to FreeRepublic where you'll be welcomed with open swastikas.  Forkboy   May-23-08 08:03 AM   #64 
  - 90% voting based on race.  VotesForWomen   May-23-08 04:19 PM   #184 
  - I don't follow. Afro American voters vote as any voter votes -- and for  Old Crusoe   May-23-08 08:34 AM   #83 
  - 90% voting based on race. no other group is voting like that. seriously, what would you recommend  VotesForWomen   May-23-08 04:18 PM   #183 
     - She had a significant majority of AA support prior to Iowa.  Old Crusoe   May-23-08 08:05 PM   #188 
     - Good point  JoFerret   May-23-08 09:17 PM   #193 
  - It certainly won't if the Democratic leadership are of your ilk  Raineyb   May-23-08 08:57 AM   #95 
  - Their refusal along with the majority of democrats not to support a war enabler is a good sign.  LeviathanCrumbling   May-23-08 02:30 PM   #155 
  - At this point in time I think Obama has just as much chance as Clinton  AuntPatsy   May-23-08 03:21 AM   #36 
  - A large turd sandwhich of an OP.  Warren Stupidity   May-23-08 07:02 AM   #41 
  - I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you.  sparosnare   May-23-08 07:05 AM   #42 
  - Exactly. Everyone knows this but there are many who stubbornly refuse to acknowledge it.  Seabiscuit   May-23-08 07:07 AM   #43 
  - Dude, get over it..Hillary lost because her campaign sucked ass!  Doityourself   May-23-08 07:09 AM   #44 
  - The moon is made of Gouda cheese.  mmonk   May-23-08 07:09 AM   #45 
  - I'll have to agree.  rucky   May-23-08 08:28 AM   #77 
  - LET IT SINK! shalom n/t  greguganus   May-23-08 07:12 AM   #47 
  - !!  indimuse   May-23-08 08:20 AM   #70 
  - re-*PLONK*  Jersey Devil   May-23-08 07:12 AM   #48 
  - still trying?  jakem   May-23-08 07:14 AM   #50 
  - AND he would have NO CHANCE if he could be stereotyped as the BLACK  pampango   May-23-08 07:14 AM   #51 
  - The post promotes the most offensive, worn out, talking point. nt  Vinca   May-23-08 07:22 AM   #52 
  - Dont say another goddamn word. >:3  sudopod   May-23-08 07:28 AM   #54 
  - wow do you write short stories or novels?  psychmommy   May-23-08 08:35 AM   #85 
     - Penny Arcade  sudopod   May-23-08 10:53 AM   #134 
        - thanks i went there and added to my fav's  psychmommy   May-23-08 11:14 AM   #135 
  - the biggest Clinton fans will have to admit that she had NO CHANCE  rosebud57   May-23-08 07:34 AM   #55 
  - You've offered no argument to argue with.  Orsino   May-23-08 07:35 AM   #56 
  - Heh  kitfalbo   May-23-08 07:35 AM   #57 
  - You are correct, BenDavid  susankh4   May-23-08 07:37 AM   #58 
  - true.  indimuse   May-23-08 08:27 AM   #76 
  - You've got it backwards, as usual.  Bread and Circus   May-23-08 07:42 AM   #61 
  - I love how you ask "Can anybody argue with that" and then  Mooney   May-23-08 07:48 AM   #63 
  - I won't admit that  graycem   May-23-08 08:07 AM   #66 
  - BS!  ProSense   May-23-08 08:15 AM   #67 
  - NOT!  indimuse   May-23-08 08:25 AM   #74 
     - "if I'm not mistaken, that relationship with Mr. Ayers on this board continued after 9/11"  ProSense   May-23-08 08:31 AM   #80 
     - you NEVER stay on subject! YOU never answer with anything  indimuse   May-23-08 08:40 AM   #86 
        - Obama forced Hillary to spin a claim he was linked to terrorists? n/t  ProSense   May-23-08 08:42 AM   #87 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   May-23-08 09:09 AM   #98 
              - Dumb response! n/t  ProSense   May-23-08 10:15 AM   #130 
     - how old are you might i ask?  dionysus   May-23-08 09:25 AM   #111 
        - i don't believe in the "chronological." so, my answer to you..  indimuse   May-23-08 09:31 AM   #114 
  - KICK and REC 1000 TIMES BD!!!  indimuse   May-23-08 08:17 AM   #68 
  - LOL! One Big Problem! Bill ain't running for President!  atufal1c   May-23-08 08:46 AM   #88 
     - Oh, brother.  Seabiscuit   May-23-08 08:52 AM   #93 
        - Here ya go, Sparky.  atufal1c   May-23-08 09:25 AM   #110 
        - listen (((( 105))) I am none of those!  indimuse   May-23-08 09:33 AM   #115 
        - Well played, my friend. Well played.  atufal1c   May-23-08 10:03 AM   #123 
        - I will stand with atufal1c.....  bvar22   May-23-08 11:46 AM   #139 
        - Oh yes you are. Jimmy just hasn't dog-whistled your sorry ass home yet. n/t.  apocalypsehow   May-23-08 02:21 PM   #149 
        - Look, wiseass...  Seabiscuit   May-23-08 09:36 AM   #117 
           - Why? So you put me on ignore like you did ProSense?  atufal1c   May-23-08 10:02 AM   #122 
              - If there were any real links to credible sources you would have posted them by now.  Seabiscuit   May-23-08 10:08 AM   #125 
        - "Oh, brother" is right: you're either willfully ignorant, or playing a silly game.  apocalypsehow   May-23-08 02:26 PM   #152 
  - Ahhh, my favorite race-baiting Jew chimes in. You HRC supporters are predictable as the rising sun.  Independent-Voter   May-23-08 08:17 AM   #69 
  - bordering on ironic, there.  rucky   May-23-08 08:31 AM   #79 
     - But waving that flag all the time isn't helping his case any.  Independent-Voter   May-23-08 10:05 AM   #124 
  - Oh, those poor victims Bill and Hillary...  dkf   May-23-08 08:20 AM   #71 
  - That's politics for you  Onlooker   May-23-08 08:23 AM   #73 
  - Turns out, though, people who do not consider themselves political  Old Crusoe   May-23-08 08:26 AM   #75 
  - Hogwash  papapi   May-23-08 08:32 AM   #81 
  - this has`t been locked yet?  madrchsod   May-23-08 08:34 AM   #84 
  - Have you been right about a single thing during this primary season?  VolcanoJen   May-23-08 08:48 AM   #90 
  - K&R  cricket08   May-23-08 08:50 AM   #91 
  - What, the truth that south carolina is "black-loaded"...  mcctatas   May-23-08 09:15 AM   #103 
  - No surprise you're giving it a kick and rec'd... Your crayons are questionable anyway  Doityourself   May-23-08 10:17 AM   #131 
  - Another race driven post...  yourguide   May-23-08 08:55 AM   #94 
  - quit "shucking and jiving"  Scriptor Ignotus   May-23-08 09:10 AM   #99 
  - yes, i can.... what a crock...  dionysus   May-23-08 09:13 AM   #101 
  - You're wrong  Citizen_Penn   May-23-08 09:14 AM   #102 
  - Not really.  H2O Man   May-23-08 09:17 AM   #104 
  - The Devil made them do it, eh Ben?  ResetButton   May-23-08 09:17 AM   #105 
  - that was not a major factor  Enrique   May-23-08 09:20 AM   #106 
  - Clintons and Racism  Renaissance Man   May-23-08 09:50 AM   #120 
  - WJC: "What's he gonna brag about next? That he doesn't steal cars?"  dmsRoar   May-23-08 09:21 AM   #107 
  - This is the most convoluted logic I've ever read at DU.  Major Hogwash   May-23-08 09:22 AM   #108 
  - I don't know who is more painfully pathetic  Voltaire   May-23-08 09:29 AM   #113 
  - ROFL  dionysus   May-23-08 09:45 AM   #119 
  - Yes, "A review of what happened..." Link please; otherwise it is an unsupported assertion.  yellowcanine   May-23-08 09:38 AM   #118 
  - My reaction to the Clintons' whining about this: Grow up.  yardwork   May-23-08 09:51 AM   #121 
  - if obama can make being black an political ADVANTAGE, more power to him!  unblock   May-23-08 10:12 AM   #127 
  - I think BenDavid is in his last throes. NT  NYCGirl   May-23-08 10:23 AM   #132 
  - It doesn't matter, you never stick around to listen  habitual   May-23-08 10:40 AM   #133 
  - more overt racism  iconicgnom   May-23-08 11:18 AM   #136 
  - SPOT ON BEN!  ElsewheresDaughter   May-23-08 11:44 AM   #137 
  - White out will help with that!  Warren Stupidity   May-23-08 12:59 PM   #142 
  - What I can't believe is that you're not on my ignore list yet!  4_Legs_Good   May-23-08 11:46 AM   #138 
  - .  bvar22   May-23-08 12:01 PM   #140 
  - Kick  Dinger   May-23-08 12:03 PM   #141 
  - So, the Black people who now support Obama are simpletons who were bamaboozled?  Tierra_y_Libertad   May-23-08 01:09 PM   #143 
  - are you serious?  cbc5g   May-23-08 01:25 PM   #144 
  - Good analysis. 91% of blacks voting for Obama can't be justified otherwise.  Mike L   May-23-08 01:44 PM   #145 
  - It was Obama who brought up Jesse Jackson.  thewiseguy   May-23-08 02:27 PM   #154 
  - The curse of belonging  PATRICK   May-23-08 02:17 PM   #147 
  - More weeping, wailing, & gnashing of teeth. She lost: get over it.  apocalypsehow   May-23-08 02:19 PM   #148 
  - you scare me.  horseface   May-23-08 02:24 PM   #151 
  - Ben David I'd say you're accusing 9 out of 10 black voters of falling for Obama's tricks  Hippo_Tron   May-23-08 02:27 PM   #153 
  - It's better than race(ism) being the reason, IMO. em  Mike L   May-23-08 02:44 PM   #156 
     - Please... go back to trashing Ted Kennedy, let your true colors show a bit more  Hippo_Tron   May-23-08 02:48 PM   #158 
        - I didn't bash Kennedy. You lie. em  Mike L   May-23-08 03:36 PM   #163 
           - You referred to Obama as a "Vulture standing over a meal"...  Hippo_Tron   May-23-08 03:42 PM   #165 
              - Yes, my comment was directed toward Obama, not Kennedy. I feel sorry for your intellectual  Mike L   May-23-08 03:46 PM   #166 
                 - I feel sorry for your intellectual incapabilities  Hippo_Tron   May-23-08 03:51 PM   #168 
                    - Kennedy has his opinion, I have mine. Mine is based on who can win in November. I doubt  Mike L   May-23-08 04:00 PM   #171 
                       - Ted Kennedy has been in politics for nearly 50 years  Hippo_Tron   May-23-08 04:06 PM   #176 
                          - You will get your break in November--- a broken heart when Obama loses. Kennedy endorsed Dukakis and  Mike L   May-23-08 04:12 PM   #180 
                             - No, he never endorsed Mondale  Hippo_Tron   May-23-08 04:17 PM   #182 
                                - Dukakis, Tsongas, and Kerry, not a very good record. em  Mike L   May-23-08 04:34 PM   #185 
  - I find it totally ironic that you post this crap  XemaSab   May-23-08 02:46 PM   #157 
  - Look at that. RR is back, posting his racially divisive spin.  Kittycat   May-23-08 02:52 PM   #159 
  - look at the bigdog in SC  mdmc   May-23-08 02:57 PM   #161 
  - A far left Dem will never win the Presidency. Only centrist Dems-- Clinton, Carter --can win.  Mike L   May-23-08 03:39 PM   #164 
     - perhaps a veep can tighten the race  mdmc   May-24-08 11:16 PM   #194 
  - You are truly a scream, BenDavid.  dchill   May-23-08 03:04 PM   #162 
  - Don't know where you are, but here on the planet Earth...  tledford   May-23-08 03:49 PM   #167 
  - I agree.  meniscus420   May-23-08 04:04 PM   #173 
  - The OP is a serial post and runner  CreekDog   May-23-08 04:40 PM   #186 
  - Exactly what are you trying to say? That Blacks can't tell  Hansel   May-23-08 08:43 PM   #191 
  - why do you feed this knucklehead, he never responds?  CreekDog   May-23-08 08:47 PM   #192 
  - The move started  quaker bill   May-24-08 11:22 PM   #195 
  - Can anybody argue with that? yeah, anyone with a brain.  goletian   May-24-08 11:24 PM   #196 
  - Ben, I found part of your post verbatim on BartCop  CreekDog   May-24-08 11:27 PM   #197 
  - yes, and in so doing Obama and Co have lost the GE to the repubs  GoldieAZ49   May-25-08 01:56 PM   #199 
 

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