MNDemNY
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Thu May-22-08 11:14 AM
Response to Reply #13 |
| 14. If that's what it takes to get a nominee that can win, yes. |
| -Its not about a fight at the Convention, its about not having a Nominee until the Convention |
LSK |
May-22-08 11:04 AM |
#0 |
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Then both Obama and Clinton should drop out, so we can nominate a "generic Democrat" that could win |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:07 AM |
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We could nominate anyone |
spinbaby |
May-22-08 11:08 AM |
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Maybe a turnip, but probably not Obama or Clinton. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:10 AM |
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especially when there are 3 more months of hate spewed on both of them |
LSK |
May-22-08 11:10 AM |
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Gore/Edwards '08 |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:11 AM |
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ahhh, so piss off 90% of the dems instead of 50% of the dems? |
LSK |
May-22-08 11:12 AM |
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More like 25%. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:13 AM |
#12 |
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come on MNDemNY, think a little |
LSK |
May-22-08 11:16 AM |
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You'd rather ride the "High Horse" to defeat??? |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:19 AM |
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no, Id rather ride the candidate who won most of the primaries and delegates |
LSK |
May-22-08 11:22 AM |
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Running either Clinton or Obama, also has "ramifications":President McCain, or worse. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:23 AM |
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Good points. |
emilyg |
May-22-08 12:57 PM |
#75 |
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how about we finish the primaries and go with the winner??? |
LSK |
May-22-08 11:09 AM |
#3 |
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No winner 'till the delegates vote. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:10 AM |
#6 |
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why? |
LSK |
May-22-08 11:11 AM |
#9 |
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Delagates can and do change thier minds. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:12 AM |
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so because of the off chance that a few delegates change their minds |
LSK |
May-22-08 11:14 AM |
#13 |
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If that's what it takes to get a nominee that can win, yes. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:14 AM |
#14 |
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What if it takes until December? |
Bleachers7 |
May-22-08 11:17 AM |
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Convention over well before that. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:18 AM |
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how will 3 more months of infighting get us a candidate who can win? |
LSK |
May-22-08 11:17 AM |
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If we run either, and or both of these folks, IMHO we lose. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:20 AM |
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your logic? heres mine... |
LSK |
May-22-08 11:23 AM |
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Goody, we have a lock on Oregon. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:24 AM |
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go look at that again AND wheres your reasons? |
LSK |
May-22-08 11:24 AM |
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Well, gee, pack up the babies and grab the old ladies |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:29 AM |
#34 |
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you going to answer the question?????????? |
LSK |
May-22-08 11:30 AM |
#36 |
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Neither Clinton or Obama can get enough votes to win the GE. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:32 AM |
#38 |
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in case you havnt been paying attention, every Dem primary has had record turnout |
LSK |
May-22-08 11:35 AM |
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Democratic Primary voters are a pretty solid bloc for a Dem in the GE, |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:37 AM |
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Among whom Hillary has a 50% plus negative rating |
RainDog |
May-22-08 11:41 AM |
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I have never argued for a Clinton nomination, that as well, IMHO, is fatal. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:43 AM |
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and how does Gore attacked independents more than Obama or anyone else? |
LSK |
May-22-08 11:43 AM |
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It's a ballroom blitz!!!!!!!!!!! |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:44 AM |
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df jkawue tioawuwghqei otu890 |
LSK |
May-22-08 11:51 AM |
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Hype, excitement, little time to falter...it's marketing. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:52 AM |
#58 |
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wrong. Obama draws from Independents and highly-educated Republicans |
RainDog |
May-22-08 11:39 AM |
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You speak of "democratic" voters, on;ly about 25% of the GE voters. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:40 AM |
#45 |
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even less are primary voters - BUT NOT THIS YEAR |
LSK |
May-22-08 11:42 AM |
#47 |
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Go read the post. Obama draws highly-educated Republicans and Independents |
RainDog |
May-22-08 11:42 AM |
#48 |
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Numbers there do not over-ride the, I hate the term, joe six-pack. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:46 AM |
#53 |
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Gas prices do. |
SoonerPride |
May-22-08 12:53 PM |
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how do you know? what actual figures support your claim? you have none. |
RainDog |
May-22-08 12:57 PM |
#74 |
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count them, take your shoes off if you have to. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 01:06 PM |
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in other words, you have NOTHING to support your claim. |
RainDog |
May-22-08 02:17 PM |
#77 |
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Nothing that can contradict the kool-aid. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 02:41 PM |
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the only argument you have is insults. I have data from well-respected orgs. |
RainDog |
May-22-08 02:53 PM |
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Your well respected orgs just don't add up..even using hillary-math. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 02:57 PM |
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Neil? Is that you? |
newmajority |
May-22-08 12:56 PM |
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we will have an official presumptive nominee within 2 weeks. |
cali |
May-22-08 11:10 AM |
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Key word ...presumptive. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:17 AM |
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And I give Obama a 100% of being our nominee. |
SoonerPride |
May-22-08 11:19 AM |
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Hello President McCain.(or maybe bush) |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:21 AM |
#23 |
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why? |
LSK |
May-22-08 11:22 AM |
#25 |
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Spoiled child syndrome |
SoonerPride |
May-22-08 11:23 AM |
#28 |
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Obama can't win, Clinton can't win, Obama/Clinton only 50-50 |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:25 AM |
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AGAIN why cant Obama win? |
LSK |
May-22-08 11:27 AM |
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Because he will not get enough votes, basically. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:30 AM |
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for WHAT REASON? |
LSK |
May-22-08 11:31 AM |
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see post 38. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:33 AM |
#39 |
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So sad to be delusional. There are meds that can help you. |
SoonerPride |
May-22-08 11:23 AM |
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Typical response from your ilk. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:27 AM |
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Back up your nonsense with facts, then. |
SoonerPride |
May-22-08 11:38 AM |
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Can't win the largest voting block out there: Middle-low income whites. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:48 AM |
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When gas is $4.50 in November ANY Dem will win 42 states. |
SoonerPride |
May-22-08 12:21 PM |
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We wish. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 12:23 PM |
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I have faith that when the voters see their standard of living decrease |
SoonerPride |
May-22-08 12:26 PM |
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Blind faith........the edge of doom. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 12:28 PM |
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Not blind faith, just political reality. You should stop living in fear. It's unhealthy. |
SoonerPride |
May-22-08 12:37 PM |
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No one will win "big" |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 12:39 PM |
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Obama will. 42 states. Blowout of Reagan sized proportions. |
SoonerPride |
May-22-08 12:44 PM |
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It would be nice if only DUers voted, wouldn't it? |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 12:48 PM |
#69 |
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Millions of Americans vote and mostly they vote with their wallet |
SoonerPride |
May-22-08 12:52 PM |
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You mean like they did in 2004????Or 2000?...or 1980? |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 12:55 PM |
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IN APPALACHIA, elsewhere not a problem. nt |
Obama_for_our_future |
May-22-08 02:46 PM |
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You could give him a year's head start spouting the same old failed Bush policies |
Cronus Protagonist |
May-22-08 11:36 AM |
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yes but we have a large block of Dems who will not vote for our nominee |
LSK |
May-22-08 11:44 AM |
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Come the election, this will change |
Cronus Protagonist |
May-22-08 11:50 AM |
#55 |
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Those poll numbers are largely suspect, IMHO. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 11:51 AM |
#56 |
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They'll calm down. |
SoonerPride |
May-22-08 12:21 PM |
#60 |
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Yes, the VAST majority of Dem. Primary voters will support the Nominee. |
MNDemNY |
May-22-08 12:24 PM |
#62 |
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Those defectors will be overwhelmed by newly registered voters. |
SoonerPride |
May-22-08 12:27 PM |
#64 |
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