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Sugarbleus

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Tue Aug-10-04 11:41 PM
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99. IMO, we should have put Saddam on the back burner until

we dealt with THE IMMINENT terrorist threats in other areas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We had Saddam under surveillance, we were putting squeeze on him. He couldn't fly north or south..he had limits. He couldn't leave the country. We could have used threat of force for more inspections BUT we SHOULD NEVER EVER HAVE GONE INTO THAT DAMNED place until we had finished hunting down the culprits that ATTACKED US.

We would have had to deal with Saddam eventually as per UN resolutions but not when we did, like we did.

Voting for allowing a president to have sole authority to make war is an abomination. Pre emption is a tricky matter; I don't think it should be a built in mandate but used as last resort measure.

I think Kerry screwed up on this one but I can forgive that if he will MAKE HIMSELF PLAIN ON THE REASON AND QUIT LETTING OTHERS DEFINE WHAT HE MEANT.

We were suppose to be going after those that had attacked us...not after someone violating a UN resolution/some human rights thug. The WHOLE world knew we were wrong.......I knew it, many of you knew it. Why didn't Kerry know it?

There were only a handful of people up there in DC that knew Iraq was the wrong place to attack at the wrong time. It's mind boggling.

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-OK, dammit. Kerry, his comment today, and the IWR	WilliamPitt	Aug-09-04 11:41 PM	#0
- The authority that Congress gave to bush	still_one	Aug-09-04 11:43 PM	#1
- "allowed *HIM* to go to war"	WilliamPitt	Aug-09-04 11:45 PM	#4
- The IWR resolution is pretty clear.	God_bush_n_cheney	Aug-10-04 12:04 AM	#22
- and Kerry STILL would have supported it	Snivi Yllom	Aug-10-04 08:22 AM	#75
- The Commander in Chief could have ordered the invasion anyway	Sparkly	Aug-10-04 09:20 AM	#82
- The IWR resolution is pretty clear.	God_bush_n_cheney	Aug-10-04 12:04 AM	#23
- Not Only That...	WillyT	Aug-10-04 12:07 AM	#27
- Shhhhh....	seventhson	Aug-09-04 11:46 PM	#5
- I am shocked to see this coming from you!	God_bush_n_cheney	Aug-09-04 11:57 PM	#16
- Okay!!!	seventhson	Aug-09-04 11:44 PM	#2
- You're wasting your time--people will read into that whatever they want	jpgray	Aug-09-04 11:45 PM	#3
- that myth needs to be exposed (the need for additional force)....	mike_c	Aug-09-04 11:49 PM	#6
- Vote for Bush, then	seventhson	Aug-09-04 11:51 PM	#7
- No way...	still_one	Aug-09-04 11:56 PM	#14
- My thoughts exactly	seventhson	Aug-10-04 12:00 AM	#19
- it seems that it's never time to speak the truth...	mike_c	Aug-10-04 12:16 AM	#34
- Right now it is not ambitions it is beating Bush	seventhson	Aug-10-04 12:40 AM	#41
- In the hands of a decent president, that resolution would have done good	jpgray	Aug-09-04 11:52 PM	#9
- he had already complied....	mike_c	Aug-09-04 11:54 PM	#12
- Scott Ritter, Hans Blix and other experts disagree with you	jpgray	Aug-09-04 11:58 PM	#18
- and you seem to still think those WMD's are somewhere...	mike_c	Aug-10-04 12:05 AM	#25
- Now you misstate my own beliefs	jpgray	Aug-10-04 12:10 AM	#30
- i've argued that there was no need for ADDITIONAL threats...	mike_c	Aug-10-04 12:19 AM	#36
- It signified the US was ready and willing to go to war	jpgray	Aug-10-04 12:23 AM	#38
- and he says that he would do it again today...	mike_c	Aug-10-04 12:34 AM	#39
- Does he say that?	jpgray	Aug-10-04 12:38 AM	#40
- See post #52 for my comment on that, too.	Zhade	Aug-10-04 01:54 AM	#54
- Those missiles were NEVER a threat to the United States, though.	Zhade	Aug-10-04 01:52 AM	#53
- That's true--they were on the edge of the imposed range limit	jpgray	Aug-10-04 01:56 AM	#55
- Just because he let them in	WilliamPitt	Aug-09-04 11:52 PM	#10
- so what if he fucked with them (and he didn't, so it's a moot...	mike_c	Aug-09-04 11:56 PM	#15
- Saddam didn't 'fuck with' the inspectors?	jpgray	Aug-10-04 12:01 AM	#20
- not after letting them back in under Blix....	mike_c	Aug-10-04 12:07 AM	#28
- Sure, but your argument is that the threat of force is unnecessary	jpgray	Aug-10-04 12:13 AM	#33
- how many times do I have to say this...?	mike_c	Aug-10-04 12:22 AM	#37
- Even if he'd HAD those weapons, we weren't right to invade!	Zhade	Aug-10-04 01:59 AM	#56
- I never supported any invasion	jpgray	Aug-10-04 02:07 AM	#58
- Thank god there are still people out there !	Egnever	Aug-09-04 11:57 PM	#17
- Didn't you read Will's post?	Oaf Of Office	Aug-10-04 12:04 AM	#24
- "WHY a threat of force was needed to get Saddam to comply..."	mike_c	Aug-10-04 12:11 AM	#31
- Hypothetically, if we all knew then what we know now	Tom Rinaldo	Aug-10-04 09:12 AM	#81
- Exactly Right - Sadam History With Inspections	DrFunkenstein	Aug-10-04 09:23 AM	#83
- But you forget that Jordan and other nations in the region	merh	Aug-10-04 12:11 AM	#32
- HUSSEIN DID NOT THROW THEM OUT.	Zhade	Aug-10-04 02:04 AM	#57
- General Tommy Franks details in his book	merh	Aug-10-04 09:03 AM	#80
- Uh, Franks is hardly an unbiased source, you know.	Zhade	Aug-10-04 05:13 PM	#91
- See, that's the point - when you are in congress you trust	merh	Aug-10-04 06:28 PM	#96
- sadaam did not throw them out	GreenArrow	Aug-10-04 08:28 AM	#76
- right on!	goodhue	Aug-10-04 05:49 PM	#93
- It's a strange comment.	UdoKier	Aug-09-04 11:51 PM	#8
- Exactly. This is what makes Kerry's remarks so disgusting.	amBushed	Aug-10-04 12:02 AM	#21
- indeed	goodhue	Aug-10-04 05:51 PM	#94
- um why would he vote to use force if there were no wmd?	Egnever	Aug-09-04 11:53 PM	#11
- it doesn't really matter	JI7	Aug-09-04 11:55 PM	#13
- Then why did 23 senators vote against it?	bandera	Aug-10-04 12:07 AM	#26
- Here's the deal	jpgray	Aug-10-04 12:19 AM	#35
- Here's the real deal.	Zhade	Aug-10-04 02:11 AM	#60
- Well, our weird fixation on Iraq is a whole other ball of wax	jpgray	Aug-10-04 02:17 AM	#62
- No, I agree - but why didn't Kerry know it was BS?	Zhade	Aug-10-04 02:24 AM	#64
- I can only assume he knew, but his motivation is a mystery	jpgray	Aug-10-04 02:26 AM	#65
- I hope it's just a mistake, but even if it is, it's a bad fumble.	Zhade	Aug-10-04 02:29 AM	#67
- I have my theory too.	Old and In the Way	Aug-10-04 03:22 AM	#68
- Well, to be fair, LIHOP has far more evidence than your theory.	Zhade	Aug-10-04 05:17 PM	#92
- First political misstep in quite a while	George_Bonanza	Aug-10-04 12:08 AM	#29
- Why didn't Kerry support Biden-Lugar?	wtmusic	Aug-10-04 12:46 AM	#42
- Kerry did support Biden Lugar	jpgray	Aug-10-04 12:57 AM	#44
- And I'm not sure about this claim you make:	jpgray	Aug-10-04 01:00 AM	#46
- Possible that Bush would have invaded anyway	wtmusic	Aug-10-04 01:10 AM	#47
- Right--it's very difficult to guess	jpgray	Aug-10-04 01:12 AM	#48
- "Should have been a red flag." DING DING DING!	Zhade	Aug-10-04 02:22 AM	#63
- Oh, there was no difference between IWR and B-L!	Zhade	Aug-10-04 02:16 AM	#61
- There was NO significant difference that would have stopped Bush from war.	blm	Aug-10-04 09:26 AM	#84
- So basically the difference between Kerry and Bush...	Hippo_Tron	Aug-10-04 12:54 AM	#43
- Please help me.....I must be slow or something....	Leilani	Aug-10-04 12:57 AM	#45
- Dumb political mistake, goes against everything Kerry has said previously	George_Bonanza	Aug-10-04 01:18 AM	#49
- Thank you, I agree.	Leilani	Aug-10-04 01:26 AM	#50
- 23 members of the Senate, including Kerry's collegue...	mike_c	Aug-10-04 01:35 AM	#51
- That's twenty-three	jpgray	Aug-10-04 02:08 AM	#59
- wrong	darboy	Aug-10-04 08:18 AM	#74
- I'm sick of doing the research for others--read his speech	jpgray	Aug-10-04 02:25 PM	#89
- is the statement I cited invalid in some way?	darboy	Aug-11-04 08:56 AM	#103
- Well, perhaps you can explain it to me	jpgray	Aug-12-04 02:32 AM	#109
- I can understand an honest disagreement before the war	Leilani	Aug-10-04 02:29 AM	#66
- all of the above are correct	GreenArrow	Aug-10-04 08:39 AM	#77
- It's not only an infuriating statement (spin aside), it's weird.	Zhade	Aug-10-04 01:39 AM	#52
- Right On,Will! Seems We have Our Very Own Shiite Wing at DU!	GalleryGod	Aug-10-04 03:38 AM	#69
- That is for sure...	wyldwolf	Aug-10-04 04:51 AM	#70
- Every time you have to explain what your candidate meant to say...	IndianaGreen	Aug-10-04 06:39 AM	#71
- Too bad	Snoggera	Aug-10-04 07:46 AM	#73
- Some Are Incapable, Others Unwilling To Understand Kerry's Position	DrFunkenstein	Aug-10-04 08:49 AM	#79
- 'explaining what he meant to say'	Myrina	Aug-10-04 02:35 PM	#90
- If you don't want spinmeisters,	56kid	Aug-10-04 09:32 AM	#86
- Thanks Will, Exactly Right	Justice	Aug-10-04 07:18 AM	#72
- "Mission Accomplished!" Bush did this to rile up anti-war vote vs. Kerry!	flpoljunkie	Aug-10-04 08:42 AM	#78
- Kerry needs to master the Bush art	qcsoapbox	Aug-10-04 09:31 AM	#85
- I think knowing what we know now	WI_DEM	Aug-10-04 09:45 AM	#87
- "worse than watergate" clarifies Pitt's point greatly, in chapter 8	gasperc	Aug-10-04 10:01 AM	#88
- It was Congress's responsibility, but Bush knew no one would call him	KoKo01	Aug-11-04 10:18 AM	#108
- RIGHT! The media and Bush will spin this if we let them. I swear	mzmolly	Aug-10-04 05:53 PM	#95
- Since when was the resolution necessary to threaten force?	eridani	Aug-10-04 11:13 PM	#97
- A good analogy of this that most Americans who	spenbax	Aug-10-04 11:21 PM	#98
- Dennis Kucinich voted against the war resolution	IndianaGreen	Aug-11-04 06:32 AM	#101
- IMO, we should have put Saddam on the back burner until	Sugarbleus	Aug-10-04 11:41 PM	#99
- sigh	RFK2	Aug-11-04 01:39 AM	#100
- Kerry in his own words	allemand	Aug-11-04 08:35 AM	#102
- kick!	wicket	Aug-11-04 08:57 AM	#104
- Good points Will	DaveSZ	Aug-11-04 09:05 AM	#105
- thanks, Will!	meti57b	Aug-11-04 09:16 AM	#106
- You're absolutely right, Will	Jack Rabbit	Aug-11-04 09:25 AM	#107

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