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70. The talk about a "Catastrophic Event"
sure gives me the willies...

Clinton campaign on ropes

Published: May 08. 2008 6:00AM
Murray, who has supported Bill and Hillary Clinton since 1991, said these are tough times for people like him who are in the Clinton camp but want to unify the party.

"The sense is, absent some catastrophic event that would take place in this campaign,
it's going to be very difficult to see a path to victory for Hillary given what happened" Tuesday, Murray said.

Sun May 11, 2008
Analysis: Could Clinton land the VP nomination?

Several Clinton associates say there is still a ray of hope among some in her campaign: that a "catastrophic" revelation about Obama might make it possible for her to win the presidential nomination.
But barring that, Hillary and Bill Clinton recognize that her candidacy is being abandoned and rejected by superdelegates whom she once expected to win over and that, even if she were to win the popular vote in combined primary states, she will almost certainly be denied the nomination. Reports: N.Y. Senator Now Faces Nearly Impossible Odds To Capturing Democratic Nomination
May 7, 2008

Clinton's Path To Victory Slipping Away
There is one scenario which does work for Clinton and thats a massive movement of superdelegates leaving Obama and supporting her. The party leaders could do that, but it would take some unforeseen development in the race between now and the convention for them to do so. Obama, in some way, would have to be rendered so unelectable that the party rejects him at the convention. Thats not much to hang a hat on but its starting to look like her best option.

And even that might not be a viable option, said Joe Trippi. Even if the catastrophic thing existed or happened, if she were perceived to have caused it, I think it would end her campaign too, Trippi said. I dont think theres any way now for her to gain the nomination. Shes at the point now where if she tries to make a case against Obama, it will actually speed up superdelegates joining his cause just to shut the campaign down.

But Trippi notes that the Obama campaign and Democratic leaders are still likely to give Clinton the room she needs to go forward on her own terms, provided that she does so in a positive manner. I think theres lots of tolerance for her going on, running the table into the convention and having a presence there, he said. But if she actually tries to compete in the trenches for the nomination in a way that looks like its damaging the nominee I dont think there will be any tolerance for that at all.
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  -Clinton Financiers Attempted To BRIBE Superdelegates! BlooInBloo  May-19-08 02:52 PM   #0 
  - Shame on you Senator Clinton  Jake3463   May-19-08 02:52 PM   #1 
  - Clintons are evil while Saint Obama walks on water and has no fans that do evil  papau   May-19-08 08:30 PM   #67 
  - Come on, horse! Wake up!  pabsungenis   May-19-08 09:55 PM   #73 
  - Shillbots can't defend their idol so they try to tear down Senator Obama.  Alexander   May-19-08 11:51 PM   #88 
  - It's fucking evil to vote for preemptive war!  pocoloco   May-20-08 12:05 AM   #90 
  - Your attitude is why your candidate is losing. nt  IronLionZion   May-20-08 08:34 AM   #109 
  - Obama is the Antichrist. We're mere mortal acolytes  Catherina   May-20-08 09:28 AM   #112 
  - How many times have we heard Bullshit like this, only to find out it is false?  WillyToad   May-19-08 11:15 PM   #84 
     - The story has been picked up by The Hill,  leveymg   May-20-08 06:50 AM   #103 
        - The Hill sucks  sallyseven   May-20-08 08:41 AM   #110 
        - Gotta admire your subtle eloquence, Sally. eom  leveymg   May-20-08 09:20 AM   #111 
        - Circular reference.....  WillyToad   May-20-08 11:23 AM   #123 
           - Issue is credibility.  leveymg   May-20-08 11:35 PM   #134 
  - That's just ugly  boobooday   May-19-08 02:54 PM   #2 
  - oh bullshit  Texas Hill Country   May-19-08 02:54 PM   #3 
  - Your proof? They have 4 independent sources to verify.  Kittycat   May-19-08 02:58 PM   #4 
  - don't waste your time  gabeana   May-19-08 02:59 PM   #6 
  - whatever... answer me this.  Texas Hill Country   May-19-08 03:00 PM   #9 
  - Well if this is true, you would still supporter her....  movonne   May-19-08 03:06 PM   #17 
  - Some Clinton supporters truly don't care what their side does - as long as she wins.  BlooInBloo   May-19-08 03:22 PM   #34 
     - The Value of a dollar will never drop, as low, as some people will stoop to pick it up!  Heather MC   May-20-08 07:27 AM   #104 
     - That reminds me of someone else...  ImForGore   May-20-08 01:23 PM   #131 
  - You're right, it's all part of the vast Obama conspiracy!  Ian_rd   May-19-08 03:13 PM   #26 
  - And they took the strawberries too!  martymar64   May-19-08 09:34 PM   #71 
  - Look who's the Kool-Aid drinker now  Blondbostonian   May-19-08 03:16 PM   #29 
  - "Having sources = conspiracy." Nice.  Occam Bandage   May-19-08 03:39 PM   #47 
  - For what it's worth Texas Hill Country  rock   May-19-08 04:56 PM   #52 
  - What, oh great sage, is the correct number of independent sources then?  Endangered Specie   May-19-08 05:05 PM   #56 
  - So if there are sources, then it MUST be bullshit!  IronLionZion   May-20-08 08:34 AM   #108 
  - If it is so heavily verified why is Huffington Post the source cited?  WillyToad   May-19-08 11:16 PM   #85 
  - Why, yes - thank you for finally admitting what her  Citizen_Penn   May-19-08 03:01 PM   #10 
  - Curious: How much did they pay you?  BlooInBloo   May-19-08 03:07 PM   #18 
  - Yeah, it is bullshit to try to bribe the YDA.  damntexdem   May-19-08 03:08 PM   #20 
  - Anothery "Hit and Run" post (or should I call it "Hill and Run")?  Endangered Specie   May-19-08 05:04 PM   #55 
  - predictable....  poli speak   May-19-08 02:59 PM   #5 
  - WTF? That's not cool at all. N/T  DangerousRhythm   May-19-08 02:59 PM   #7 
  - One MILLION dollars!  DefenseLawyer   May-19-08 02:59 PM   #8 
  - It would be funny if it weren't so fucking despicable.  BlooInBloo   May-19-08 03:01 PM   #11 
  - For only TWO delegates, and with the campaign in debt?  Cronus Protagonist   May-19-08 06:26 PM   #61 
  - Shame on you Hillary! Shame on you!  butterfly77   May-19-08 03:01 PM   #12 
  - The question is:  BushDespiser12   May-19-08 03:02 PM   #13 
  - Something tells me we're about to find out.  BlooInBloo   May-19-08 03:03 PM   #14 
  - I hope so because  dmr   May-20-08 12:20 AM   #91 
  - another question is - who else was offered a $million?  WillYourVoteBCounted   May-20-08 08:00 PM   #132 
  - I am neither shocked nor offended. I pretty much assume that old-Washington types do this.  Occam Bandage   May-19-08 03:04 PM   #15 
  - Why is an Israeli billionaire involved in our political system like this? nt  ProgressiveMuslim   May-19-08 03:06 PM   #16 
  - Maybe that should be one of the questions they ask him...people  movonne   May-19-08 03:10 PM   #22 
  - Excellent question. n/t  rucky   May-19-08 03:10 PM   #23 
  - For the same reason all sorts of foreign billionaires are, and for the same reason  Occam Bandage   May-19-08 03:11 PM   #24 
  - Is there ANY doubt a Clinton White House would be owned by these people?  redstate_democrat   May-19-08 03:28 PM   #41 
  - Wouldn't be the first from that general area...  Endangered Specie   May-19-08 05:10 PM   #58 
  - Looks like she's the Senator from Likud as well as Punjab n/t  eridani   May-19-08 09:54 PM   #72 
     - Saban discusses Hilllary when interviewed by Haaretz in 2006...  ProgressiveMuslim   May-20-08 05:31 AM   #100 
        - WTF  Catherina   May-20-08 09:34 AM   #114 
  - Here's the real question: is ANYONE surprised? nt  Eric Condon   May-19-08 03:07 PM   #19 
  - And this, my friends, is why we need a change in Washington.  Tatiana   May-19-08 03:09 PM   #21 
  - This is revolting news and will msm have it on the new...I doubt it..  movonne   May-19-08 03:12 PM   #25 
  - Let's hear again how Obama is the corporate donor's choice...but truly...  sfam   May-19-08 03:14 PM   #27 
  - These people got caught, what about the ones who didn't get caught, we'res Clintons money goin?  uponit7771   May-19-08 03:15 PM   #28 
  - this better be on the news  BklynChick   May-19-08 03:18 PM   #30 
  - Yup.  BlooInBloo   May-19-08 03:18 PM   #31 
  - Sure it will, on page E-36  dailykoff   May-19-08 03:21 PM   #32 
     - Heh. I was thinking teevee.  BlooInBloo   May-19-08 03:24 PM   #36 
        - Don't count on it.  dailykoff   May-19-08 03:37 PM   #44 
           - If they don't have it on tomorrow, I'll be pissed. But you could be right, unfortunately.  BlooInBloo   May-19-08 03:53 PM   #49 
  - But that would be mean to Hillary.  Dr_eldritch   May-19-08 03:23 PM   #35 
  - I find this news highly disturbing  nomad1776   May-19-08 03:21 PM   #33 
  - ok  soaplover20012001   May-19-08 03:24 PM   #38 
  - Deep background  eridani   May-19-08 09:58 PM   #74 
     - See Peter Paul vs Hilary Clinton  Grinchie   May-19-08 11:50 PM   #87 
        - I didn't mean just the Clintons  eridani   May-20-08 05:47 AM   #101 
  - HE IS FUCKING SCUM!  redstate_democrat   May-19-08 03:24 PM   #37 
  - Agreed - MAD props to the kids.  BlooInBloo   May-19-08 03:25 PM   #39 
     - go  soaplover20012001   May-19-08 03:27 PM   #40 
        - ?  BlooInBloo   May-19-08 03:32 PM   #42 
        - Haim Saban introduced/distributed the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers  blogslut   May-19-08 05:19 PM   #60 
           - Now...knowing this, I'm more convinced than ever that Haim is the Devil.  NoodleyAppendage   May-19-08 10:41 PM   #82 
           - Poor Sabin....  PatGund   May-19-08 11:55 PM   #89 
           - I'm so confused.  BlooInBloo   May-20-08 10:09 AM   #121 
        - bye  last1standing   May-19-08 03:36 PM   #43 
           - lol! I didn't even *get* it!  BlooInBloo   May-19-08 03:39 PM   #46 
  - Remember the letter from Saban and others to Pelosi  bonito   May-19-08 03:38 PM   #45 
  - OOOH! Good memory! From threats to bribery. What an admirable campaign they've run.  BlooInBloo   May-19-08 03:45 PM   #48 
  - If memory serves it was Harvey Weinstein who got that letter together  walldude   May-19-08 07:25 PM   #63 
     - Yeah, Weinstein was just part of the "second wave" of attacks on her. n/t  Poll_Blind   May-19-08 10:25 PM   #78 
  - Interesting...  AntiFascist   May-19-08 04:52 PM   #51 
  - He's an interesting man imo  bonito   May-19-08 07:37 PM   #65 
     - Religion aside...  AntiFascist   May-20-08 01:11 PM   #129 
  - Saban is working with Freedoms Watch to push the US into war with Iran  leveymg   May-20-08 09:32 AM   #113 
  - ! Why is it a mistake to involve the Quartet. They've been more humane than we have  Catherina   May-20-08 09:41 AM   #117 
     - The Quartet's plan died in 2002.  leveymg   May-20-08 10:04 AM   #119 
  - ! "warned Nancy Pelosi to "keep out of the Democratic presidential primaries"  Catherina   May-20-08 09:38 AM   #116 
  - No wonder why she's broke...  stillcool47   May-19-08 04:00 PM   #50 
  - Not only money  BecauseBushSaysSo   May-19-08 08:33 PM   #68 
  - The talk about a "Catastrophic Event"  stillcool47   May-19-08 09:24 PM   #70 
  - How many IUOs do the Clintons have, and to which foreign agents?  IndianaGreen   May-19-08 10:04 PM   #76 
  - Geeeeeez..... all she offered me was a lousey.....  whistler162   May-19-08 04:57 PM   #53 
  - Indeed - shows what suckers WV people are - lol!  BlooInBloo   May-19-08 05:01 PM   #54 
  - How many other SDs/groups do you suppose took his money instead of reporting it?  kenny blankenship   May-19-08 05:07 PM   #57 
  - That might be something the remaining voters, and convention-goers would like to know.  BlooInBloo   May-19-08 05:12 PM   #59 
  - That's a very good question and one that I think might be answerable but not before the convention.  Poll_Blind   May-19-08 10:26 PM   #79 
  - Hey - she's quoting Karl Rove now as to who's got the right numbers, so bribery is no surprise.  cyberpj   May-19-08 07:23 PM   #62 
  - Hasn't Obama  MonkeyFunk   May-19-08 07:30 PM   #64 
  - Haven't you read this  bonito   May-19-08 08:07 PM   #66 
  - What's that got to do with what I said?  MonkeyFunk   May-19-08 11:45 PM   #86 
  - That's different  bigtree   May-19-08 10:08 PM   #77 
  - There's a difference between campaign contributions  Heathen57   May-20-08 05:03 AM   #99 
     - Not to mention foreign influence....  AntiFascist   May-20-08 01:18 PM   #130 
  - Logan's Law: if an Obamite uses ALL CAPS, it's complete bullshit.  Perry Logan   May-19-08 08:38 PM   #69 
  - I thought "Logan's Law" made it illegal to glue your lips to a defeated candidate's rectum.  dicksteele   May-19-08 10:30 PM   #80 
  - We don't use the term "Obamite" any more  Steerpike_Denver   May-19-08 11:01 PM   #83 
  - When a Clinton supporter uses the word "Obamite," that means they don't have a rational response.  racaulk   May-20-08 11:58 AM   #125 
  - ** Saban to NY Times, 2004: "I'm a one-issue guy and my issue is Israel." **  Poll_Blind   May-19-08 10:01 PM   #75 
  - Haim Saban = member of the AIPAC "Israel First, America Second" crowd.  NoodleyAppendage   May-19-08 10:38 PM   #81 
  - how is this not illegal?  crimsonblue   May-20-08 01:22 AM   #92 
  - That was a question I raised with another OP, but it got poo-pooed  Impeachment_Monkey   May-20-08 04:00 AM   #96 
  - So, what happened? Did they take the bribe and endorse her? nt  indie_ana_500   May-20-08 01:57 AM   #93 
  - This thread makes it abundantly clear  Kaleko   May-20-08 02:30 AM   #94 
  - Geez Louise. Trying to corrupt our young this what we want them to learn?  dkf   May-20-08 02:34 AM   #95 
  - Damn. I posted this earlier with hardly any responses .. oh well.  Impeachment_Monkey   May-20-08 04:02 AM   #97 
  - Reminds me of that one commercial a couple years ago  hokies4ever   May-20-08 04:10 AM   #98 
  - Oh - didn't see yours. There was another a *little* earlier than mine too...  BlooInBloo   May-20-08 10:08 AM   #120 
     - No worries here. I'm glad it got some wider exposure actually, so I'm happy. ~nt~  Impeachment_Monkey   May-20-08 01:05 PM   #128 
  - HOW STUPID....... THEY SHOULD HAVE DEMANDED $2MILLION...AFTER ALL IT'S FOR THE KIDS!!!  happygoluckytoyou   May-20-08 06:20 AM   #102 
  - The solution  The Wizard   May-20-08 07:52 AM   #105 
  - Right, I'd take the money and still support Obama then ask Obama to support donations to the group..  uponit7771   May-20-08 09:38 AM   #115 
  - these kids give me hope.  wellstone dem   May-20-08 08:10 AM   #106 
  - Way too Much Sleeze around Her  fascisthunter   May-20-08 08:20 AM   #107 
  - Oh boy. She really will stop at nothing.  debbierlus   May-20-08 09:42 AM   #118 
  - First wienstein now saban. quite a bunch. nt  Javaman   May-20-08 10:14 AM   #122 
  - FYI, not "kids." Young Ds. means either under 30 or 35, I forgot which.  Deep13   May-20-08 11:46 AM   #124 
  - K & R  Scurrilous   May-20-08 12:07 PM   #126 
  - Whereas the Obama campaign only makes "contributions."  uberblonde   May-20-08 12:54 PM   #127 
  - Clinton style democracy in action.  WA98296   May-20-08 08:10 PM   #133 

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