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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 12:43 PM
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33. In GD: P

Look at Waterman's posts for that as well. He leaves me in the dust

But also this is the historian in me speaking
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  -All of these parallels drawn between Obama and JFK are ludicrous. Writer  May-19-08 11:48 AM   #0 
  - Blame JFK's daughter if you must: "A President Like My Father"  Pirate Smile   May-19-08 11:53 AM   #1 
  - Okay, then, I will.  Writer   May-19-08 11:56 AM   #2 
     - Im glad you knew her father better than her or his own brother Teddy  DJ13   May-19-08 11:57 AM   #6 
        - Seriously, now, do we HAVE to know her father?  Writer   May-19-08 12:00 PM   #10 
        - ZING!  hokies4ever   May-19-08 12:00 PM   #11 
  - I wouldn't say we need to go back to the 60's.  newmajority   May-19-08 11:56 AM   #3 
  - Yes, this is the liberal political swing following the conservative political era started in 1980.  Writer   May-19-08 11:57 AM   #5 
  - Lesser men are compared to Great Men  Jake3463   May-19-08 11:56 AM   #4 
  - $100 says that the dreaming part is marketing.  Writer   May-19-08 11:58 AM   #7 
     - Kennedy  Jake3463   May-19-08 12:02 PM   #15 
  - Obama qualifies on his own, but there is no ignoring that he evokes....  PoliticalAmazon   May-19-08 11:59 AM   #8 
  - Many blacks might say (especially older ones)  hokies4ever   May-19-08 11:59 AM   #9 
  - A very sad but true statement  muryan   May-19-08 12:05 PM   #17 
  - Not if you count Jesse Jackson  hokies4ever   May-19-08 12:09 PM   #19 
  - Oh for crying out loud!  dbaker41   May-19-08 04:41 PM   #51 
  - if people want to make the comparison, so what?? what difference does it make?  LSK   May-19-08 12:01 PM   #12 
  - Because it seems incongruent to both herald Obama as a figure of change...  Writer   May-19-08 12:04 PM   #16 
     - the 60s were a period of change  LSK   May-19-08 12:12 PM   #20 
        - Because the same people adopting change, for the most part, abandoned it for Volvos in the 1980's.  Writer   May-19-08 12:14 PM   #21 
           - because they accomplished what they wanted by the 80s???  LSK   May-19-08 12:18 PM   #22 
           - No. Because they suddenly decided that the rabid pursuit of capital transcended the needs of the...  Writer   May-19-08 12:19 PM   #23 
              - so the Vietnam war did not end?????  LSK   May-19-08 12:23 PM   #24 
              - Say wha'? They were only there because of the war?  Writer   May-19-08 12:30 PM   #26 
              - "the rabid pursuit of capital"... Methinks someone read the Cliff Notes of Marx, and likes to pose.  apocalypsehow   May-19-08 01:23 PM   #36 
           - No we didn't. We are the same people we were then.  jaxx   May-19-08 01:17 PM   #35 
           - I've got to ask: Do you think you all invented anti-war protests?  Writer   May-19-08 03:32 PM   #47 
              - Nope. But we were good at it.  jaxx   May-19-08 04:58 PM   #53 
                 - Well... at least you all WENT INTO THE F'ING STREETS.  Writer   May-19-08 05:03 PM   #55 
                    - People have taken to the streets  nadinbrzezinski   May-19-08 05:18 PM   #58 
           - You lost me at this post Writer. Many of us are still working towards what we were then.  uppityperson   May-19-08 02:04 PM   #39 
              - And there lies the problem, the corporate media has corrupted many things  nadinbrzezinski   May-19-08 05:21 PM   #61 
  - "All of these parallels?" Are you writing from January?  Occam Bandage   May-19-08 12:02 PM   #13 
  - Youre right. He reminds me more of RFK than JFK.  The Ghost   May-19-08 12:02 PM   #14 
  - We certainly didn't get to know what kind of president he would be.  Writer   May-19-08 12:08 PM   #18 
     - That is very true. He encouraged positiveness, and hope, but we will never know  uppityperson   May-19-08 02:06 PM   #41 
        - Completely.  Writer   May-19-08 03:30 PM   #46 
           - As someone in the over 50 set, I resent to worshipping of JFK.  uppityperson   May-19-08 04:10 PM   #50 
  - As an Obama supporter I fully agree  GoPsUx   May-19-08 12:27 PM   #25 
  - Little do a few of the folks in this thread understand that I'm actually DEFENDING Obama.  Writer   May-19-08 12:31 PM   #27 
     - I like that you are posing an actual well reasoned point  GoPsUx   May-19-08 12:34 PM   #28 
        - Thanks, dude.  Writer   May-19-08 12:36 PM   #29 
  - He is his own person, but.... you knew that was coming  nadinbrzezinski   May-19-08 12:36 PM   #30 
  - I salivate at your well-reasoned analysis.  Writer   May-19-08 12:38 PM   #32 
     - In GD: P  nadinbrzezinski   May-19-08 12:43 PM   #33 
        - Well your point is salient: Every politician has characteristics that ...  Writer   May-19-08 12:54 PM   #34 
           - Every analogy falls apart at some point...  sakura   May-19-08 01:56 PM   #38 
           - My dad was from the silent generation.  Writer   May-19-08 03:28 PM   #44 
              - My parents are of that generation, too...  sakura   May-19-08 09:09 PM   #63 
           - History never repeats itself 100% EVAH  nadinbrzezinski   May-19-08 02:05 PM   #40 
              - I'm not a historian, but I've had similar thoughts.  Writer   May-19-08 03:21 PM   #43 
                 - Where they are similar is that both Jack and Obama  nadinbrzezinski   May-19-08 04:50 PM   #52 
                    - That's what i've thought, too. That JFK was a martyr because of his ephemeral presidency.  Writer   May-19-08 04:59 PM   #54 
                       - All cynicism aside it IS a movement  nadinbrzezinski   May-19-08 05:12 PM   #56 
  - "no more than two and a half years"  hfojvt   May-19-08 12:36 PM   #31 
  - Actually, presidential historians disagree with you, namely  sfexpat2000   May-19-08 01:32 PM   #37 
  - JFK was our first and so far our only President from a minority group.  hedgehog   May-19-08 02:09 PM   #42 
  - rev  soaplover20012001   May-19-08 03:28 PM   #45 
     - see below  hedgehog   May-19-08 03:35 PM   #48 
        - Let me translate.  ieoeja   May-19-08 03:41 PM   #49 
  - Ludicrous to you ... Others are entitled to their opinion of that comparison.  AtomicKitten   May-19-08 05:17 PM   #57 
  - Yeah... but I don't think the comparison holds a lot of water.  Writer   May-19-08 05:19 PM   #59 
     - there you go  AtomicKitten   May-19-08 05:25 PM   #62 
  - I agree. JFK had advantages that Obama never enjoyed.  Yanez Houston Jordan   May-19-08 05:20 PM   #60 

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