Reply #136: Shame on this OP. It is a "circus" in the "Bread and Circus" tradition of Rome.

[McCamy Taylor]

"Lately, I've tried to be nice to her and not disparage her reputation."

By writing Hillary-Bashing material like this? In the first paragraph alone she is "divorced from reality", "disingenuous" , "bizarre and legalistic", "divisive and corrosive", guilty of "duplicity" and "stupid". Note that I have done what Bread and Circus failed to do. I showed rather than told that Bread and Circus attempted to disparage Clinton in the first paragraph, in direct contradiction to his own words. Show don't tell is a problem for novice fiction writers and for political writers who have no facts to back up their assertions.

"Nearly any respectable liberal or Democratic blog is or has been supporting Obama for a long time."

Only if your dictionary defines "respectable- adj. supportive of Obama" and "long time" is the English system unit of measure that equals four months or less.

"Millions of people don't like her and it has nothing to do with her gender."

Millions of people at sites like C.U.N.T. do not like the human being called Hillary. Millions of right wingers and Republicans call the human being Hillary "bitch", "witch" , "shrew", "ice queen" , "Lesbian", "castrating"....but it has nothing to do with gender.

"If she thinks it's fair to count 2 illegitimate elections (MI and Florida) - made illegitimate by the pledge she signed - but not count legitimate caucus elections, then she has a really bad sense of fairness. This alone disqualifies her from being President or Vice President."

I call this one the Hillary is not in charge because she is in charge argument. She personally and solely with no one else decided to tell voters in Mi and Florida to piss off, because she rules the world. That means that she does not rule the world.

"The blogosphere is not as stupid and ignorant as her "Obama is a muslim" base."

Wow! Just wow! I believe that 10% of people everywhere--not just in West Virginia---think that Obama is a Muslim. But West Virginia voters are "stupid and ignorant". Way to court the blue collar vote for this fall. With bloggers like these working for the Democrats, I guess our troops in Iraq can look forward to four more years of war.

"She is unfit for office, any office, at this point."

In other words, "burn the witch". Dualistic thinking is never pretty.

"Sorry."

No you aren't. People who engage in hate mongering are not sorry. If they were, they would not say what they say.

"Turn out the lights, the party is over."

"In light of knowledge attained, the happy achievement seems almost a matter of course, and any intelligent student can grasp it without too much trouble. But the years of anxious searching in the dark, with their intense longing, their alterations of confidence and exhaustion and the final emergence into the light -- only those who have experienced it can understand it." Albert Einstein

"To diminish Bill, Hillary, Penn, McAuliffe, Wolfson, Ickes, and the rest of the assholes is a gift."

"On the last day, Jesus will say to those on His right hand, "Come, enter the Kingdom. For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was sick and you visited me." Then Jesus will turn to those on His left hand and say, "Depart from me because I was hungry and you did not feed me, I was thirsty and you did not give me to drink, I was sick and you did not visit me." These will ask Him, "When did we see You hungry, or thirsty or sick and did not come to Your help?" And Jesus will answer them, "Whatever you neglected to do unto one of these least of these, you neglected to do unto Me!" Mother Theresa

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/teresa94.html

"P.S. It's lame for her to be going down the tubes and taking money from children. How is that even legal? And if it's funneled through the parents, then the parents are guilty of child abuse."

Remember the glass houses rule?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/23/AR2007102301882.html

Elrick Williams's toddler niece Carlyn may be one of the youngest contributors to this year's presidential campaign. The 2-year-old gave $2,300 to Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.).

So did her sister and brother, Imara, 13, and Ishmael, 9, and her cousins Chan and Alexis, both 13. Altogether, according to newly released campaign finance reports, the extended family of Williams, a wealthy Chicago financier, handed over nearly a dozen checks in March for the maximum allowed under federal law to Obama.

Such campaign donations from young children would almost certainly run afoul of campaign finance regulations, several campaign lawyers said. But as bundlers seek to raise higher and higher sums for presidential contenders this year, the number who are turning to checks from underage givers appears to be on the rise.

"Shame on you Hillary."

Shame on you, Bread and Circus for the divide and conquer post designed to create internal division within the Democratic Party at a time when the candidates are trying to unite us. I listened to the whole 26 minute pep talk. Clinton's only criticism of Obama was that he would not debate. When the last caller ask for oppo, she hung up. Most of her criticism was reserved for the press. She said "If you have voted for Barack or me you have more in common than you have with McCain" and she made a good point about how the press does not usually get up in arms with minority status candidates (of either party) who decide to go to the convention to have some effect on the platform or the convention. Look at Ron Paul. He is still out there criticizing the Republicans and no one is giving him any grief.

This OP is a circus designed to distract people with flashy, visceral rhetoric that does not stand up to a second, close reading. Like so much that I read these days at DU, its effect is to drive a great big wedge into the party so that we are incapable of effective action on the issues that matter, because we are too busy fighting each other.