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82. He's getting desperate, and its not pretty.
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  -Bill Clinton lets loose ANOTHER vicious attack on the DNC today. madfloridian  May-16-08 05:19 PM   #0 
  - Go Big Dog  OzarkDem   May-16-08 05:20 PM   #1 
  - You are WAY off on that analysis, Bucko.  tabasco   May-16-08 05:26 PM   #18 
  - Yup... Just a Matter of "Perspective"  fascisthunter   May-16-08 05:28 PM   #24 
  - Not all billionaires are bad...  Juniperx   May-16-08 05:42 PM   #57 
  - I think the poster's safe in painting "Big Dog" with that brush...nt  Tarheel_Dem   May-16-08 06:33 PM   #94 
  - No, a broad brush is never "safe"  Juniperx   May-16-08 06:57 PM   #109 
     - Don't know about "Bill's billionaire friends", but I think the brush fits "Bill"  Tarheel_Dem   May-16-08 10:56 PM   #133 
  - Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.  tabasco   May-16-08 06:42 PM   #96 
  - That's not what I'm talking about and you know it, dearie.  Juniperx   May-16-08 06:58 PM   #110 
     - How 'bout this one. Has he done a lot for humanity?  tabasco   May-16-08 07:22 PM   #113 
        - No but what he has done, is a lot for insanity  ooglymoogly   May-17-08 06:23 PM   #190 
  - If they have billions of dollars in wealth then that means many others have less...  MN Against Bush   May-17-08 08:58 AM   #159 
  - Sucker!  OzarkDem   May-16-08 08:36 PM   #127 
     - Bill and Hill are DLC dems.....  TLM   May-16-08 11:12 PM   #136 
     - WHO is ahead in each of the categories in this chart from opensecrets.org? (hint: HILLARY)  Triana   May-16-08 11:58 PM   #141 
        - The lobbyists chart is especially telling  DeeDeeNY   May-17-08 08:30 AM   #157 
           - YUP. When I hear about how "Obama takes more corp/lobbyist $ than Clinton", I produce this chart  Triana   May-17-08 10:46 AM   #168 
  - Like he did with NAFTA  fascisthunter   May-16-08 05:26 PM   #19 
  - Yeah - like when he spent his 2004 book tour defending Bush's decisions on Iraq that the nasty  blm   May-16-08 05:27 PM   #22 
  - Clinton's a real Democrat - Dean is still in full tilt scream mode.  MethuenProgressive   May-16-08 05:31 PM   #31 
  - Clinton's a neocon whore. However, I applaud his latest spate...  PoliticalAmazon   May-16-08 05:35 PM   #42 
  - I think Socks is dead.  ZinZen   May-16-08 11:30 PM   #137 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   May-16-08 05:37 PM   #50 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-17-08 03:25 AM   #146 
  - Stick up or stick it in 'em.  pocoloco   May-16-08 06:00 PM   #81 
  - Stand for democracy and don't back down  OzarkDem   May-16-08 08:34 PM   #126 
  - ironic, isn't it?  Two Americas   May-16-08 07:44 PM   #115 
  - only when it suits him  canucksawbones   May-17-08 07:50 AM   #155 
  - Call it Survival  Grinchie   May-17-08 04:43 PM   #183 
  - "less powerful" that about describes it.  mkultra   May-16-08 08:19 PM   #120 
  - Slick Willy only "sticks up" for himself and his own!  LibGranny   May-16-08 08:49 PM   #129 
  - Bill really "stuck up" for Monica.  bvar22   May-16-08 11:46 PM   #138 
  - yes, go away, big dog n/t  PaulaFarrell   May-17-08 05:25 AM   #149 
  - Right  LeFleur1   May-17-08 10:14 AM   #165 
     - Is there something in Hillary Clinton's personality that attracts this kind of supporter?  thecatburgler   May-17-08 01:52 PM   #175 
        - I think they all share a prescription of Xanax or other Antidepressant  Grinchie   May-17-08 04:49 PM   #184 
  - "You just have to know, that is the position of your national party."  blonndee   May-16-08 05:21 PM   #2 
  - Of course not...  Juniperx   May-16-08 05:24 PM   #12 
  - You are excusing his behavior? That it will "help" the party.  madfloridian   May-16-08 05:26 PM   #20 
  - Not my fault you can't separate your hate for Clinton  Juniperx   May-16-08 05:47 PM   #68 
     - Hillary helped write those rules, and the ramifications if they  dmr   May-17-08 12:52 AM   #145 
     - How do we fix it?  Grinchie   May-17-08 04:54 PM   #185 
  - By tearing down the party at a campaign event? Doesn't seem too productive to me.  blonndee   May-16-08 05:29 PM   #27 
  - This was in KENTUCKY? I don't even get the rationale for it. It is beyond bizarre. Look at the  K Gardner   May-16-08 05:35 PM   #44 
  - It seems to me that such a tactic could drive down turnout.  blonndee   May-16-08 06:02 PM   #83 
  - and Obama wants to "disembody" Florida??!!  soonerhoosier   May-17-08 09:17 AM   #161 
  - It's like Bush attacking Obama from overseas  catgirl   May-17-08 09:49 AM   #163 
  - The party fucked up  Juniperx   May-16-08 05:45 PM   #63 
     - I see that all candidates knew the situation and agreed to it going in.  blonndee   May-16-08 05:56 PM   #77 
        - They can't change the rules for THIS primary  Juniperx   May-16-08 06:19 PM   #90 
           - I agree with your last statement.  blonndee   May-16-08 06:50 PM   #105 
              - States should never be able to play against the rules  Juniperx   May-16-08 06:56 PM   #107 
  - the time for that is before an election, not during or after.  mkultra   May-16-08 08:20 PM   #121 
  - The DNC didn't make the mess.  rateyes   May-17-08 04:07 PM   #180 
  - Allowing everyone's vote to count is what Democrats stand for  OzarkDem   May-16-08 08:42 PM   #128 
  - I'm just impressed that you used the word "loose" correctly. nt  skooooo   May-16-08 05:21 PM   #3 
  - I need to think about that one.  madfloridian   May-16-08 05:40 PM   #55 
     - Because many people think "loose" = lose.  skooooo   May-16-08 05:43 PM   #59 
     - Gotcha...thanks.  madfloridian   May-16-08 05:47 PM   #66 
     - ****((((( PART 3 AND 4 )))))****  indimuse   May-16-08 06:03 PM   #84 
        - It's growing.  madfloridian   May-16-08 06:09 PM   #86 
  - Dean talked about the FL and MI deals on Jay Leno. He was fair and sensible. Video link here.  madfloridian   May-16-08 05:21 PM   #4 
  - Dean needs to keep his cool... he has a job in the DNC  Juniperx   May-16-08 05:25 PM   #17 
  - Bill has nothing to protect except his own sorry-ass legacy, which he manages to diminish daily...  dionysus   May-16-08 05:38 PM   #53 
  - That's his business  Juniperx   May-16-08 05:44 PM   #62 
  - bill clinton is looking out for bill clinton..  frylock   May-16-08 06:43 PM   #97 
     - Your?  RTBerry   May-17-08 03:51 PM   #179 
  - When he was on the Daily Show, he also said they'd find a way  sfexpat2000   May-16-08 05:39 PM   #54 
  - He'll be back to playing golf with Poppy soon enough.  Forkboy   May-16-08 05:22 PM   #5 
  - I'm telling you, it's "pump head"  mcctatas   May-16-08 05:23 PM   #6 
  - He is different, mighty different  goclark   May-16-08 05:43 PM   #58 
  - "The Party" will be fine  Juniperx   May-16-08 05:23 PM   #7 
  - "golden child"???  madfloridian   May-16-08 05:24 PM   #13 
  - Yes, golden child...  Juniperx   May-16-08 05:27 PM   #23 
     - Psssssst! The time to "stir the shit" was BEFORE the primaries...  returnable   May-16-08 05:54 PM   #75 
     - Psssttt... the red flag wasn't raised until  Juniperx   May-16-08 05:58 PM   #79 
        - Psssst! Hillary knew what the consequences were when she AGREED to the DNC's plan...  returnable   May-16-08 10:55 PM   #132 
     - hillary was the golden girl!  mkultra   May-16-08 08:21 PM   #122 
  - "Obama will continue to be the golden child."  MethuenProgressive   May-16-08 05:37 PM   #51 
     - One would hope this is the hope of all Democrats  Juniperx   May-16-08 05:46 PM   #65 
        - Are you one of the Disenfranchised Juniperx?  Grinchie   May-17-08 05:13 PM   #188 
  - He really doesn't have the mojo anymore  bluestateguy   May-16-08 05:23 PM   #8 
  - I'm starting to think that Bill wanted the WH as much, if not more than Hillary.  monmouth   May-16-08 05:23 PM   #9 
  - Yes Bill wants it more than his wife  LiberalLovinLug   May-17-08 02:12 PM   #176 
  - You oppose votes being counted? You know this is a progressive Democratic site, don't you?  MethuenProgressive   May-16-08 05:24 PM   #10 
  - I emptied my list.  madfloridian   May-16-08 05:25 PM   #15 
  - You and me both. I thought for certain they'd be gone by now.  K Gardner   May-16-08 05:26 PM   #21 
  - Ouch  Juniperx   May-16-08 05:48 PM   #70 
     - you cant even see that you cant change rules in the middle.  mkultra   May-16-08 08:22 PM   #124 
  - Bill could've made an executive order to count all votes in Nov2000, but he didn't.  blm   May-16-08 05:29 PM   #26 
  - Revisionist fantasy.  MethuenProgressive   May-16-08 05:33 PM   #37 
     - Do you OWN a calendar? Terry McAuliffe led the DNC thru Feb2005. CLINTON PUT HIM THERE.  blm   May-17-08 09:41 AM   #162 
  - Unfortunately, Hillary couldn't be bothered to stand up for FL's votes in 2000....  PoliticalAmazon   May-16-08 05:36 PM   #49 
  - Yes. I oppose basketball games with only one team playing at a time also n/t  eridani   May-17-08 05:54 AM   #151 
  - sad that he is using this divisiveness  ErinBerin84   May-16-08 05:24 PM   #11 
  - Bill and Hill sure like the word "obliterate" lately  CakeGrrl   May-16-08 05:25 PM   #14 
  - Think the Clintons will do a full lieberman?  me b zola   May-16-08 05:34 PM   #38 
     - I wish they would! On the upside, I hope he keeps tanking Hill's VP odds  CakeGrrl   May-16-08 05:47 PM   #67 
  - Dear lord.. that's worse than what he said yesterday ! Obliterated?? Threats ?? WTF ??  K Gardner   May-16-08 05:25 PM   #16 
  - This is why Hillary has no chance in hell of being VP. Bill  ej510   May-16-08 05:32 PM   #32 
  - hehe, he's upset that he can't control the focus of the party like he thought he'd be able to  habitual   May-16-08 05:34 PM   #40 
  - Is "obliterate" the new password for the Clintons?  Tierra_y_Libertad   May-16-08 05:28 PM   #25 
  - "We are obliterating you from the face of the earth and pretending that your voters did not vote."  flpoljunkie   May-16-08 06:32 PM   #93 
  - Just a suggestion, Mad.. given that there's a post up about his attack on  K Gardner   May-16-08 05:29 PM   #28 
  - Good idea. Fixed it. I wrote more even earlier than this week.  madfloridian   May-16-08 05:33 PM   #36 
     - Yeah, I've been reading your journal.. you should write a book !  K Gardner   May-16-08 07:42 PM   #114 
  - And people wonder why some of Hillary's supporters say they would not support Obama. This is sad.  IsItJustMe   May-16-08 05:30 PM   #29 
  - He is using my state as a tool to attack Dean and the rules committee  madfloridian   May-16-08 05:30 PM   #30 
  - MY STATE 2:: ( **((((PART 2)))))**  indimuse   May-16-08 05:58 PM   #78 
  - It almost seems like you don't care for Donna Brazile...  dchill   May-16-08 06:57 PM   #108 
  - Donna Brazile is right.  President Kerry   May-17-08 11:16 AM   #170 
  - You know whats Weird Madfloridian, I am starting to believe all that 1988-1994 stuff myself.  Grinchie   May-17-08 05:20 PM   #189 
  - ## DON'T DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ##  DU GrovelBot   May-16-08 05:32 PM   #33 
  - You can run, but you cannot hide Evil GrovelBot!  Swamp Rat   May-16-08 11:50 PM   #140 
  - I like the big dog but he's starting to look helpless.  C_U_L8R   May-16-08 05:32 PM   #34 
  - Good for Bill!  LisaM   May-16-08 05:32 PM   #35 
  - List....updating....again.  madfloridian   May-16-08 05:34 PM   #39 
  - Right behind you... LOL  K Gardner   May-16-08 05:36 PM   #47 
  - Oh, no, Dean supports Obama!  jonestonesusa   May-17-08 12:10 AM   #143 
  - asinine  ima_sinnic   May-17-08 03:28 AM   #147 
  - You go Bill!  DemGa   May-16-08 05:34 PM   #41 
  - Updating.....  madfloridian   May-16-08 05:35 PM   #43 
  - I've never used the ignore function once - you are the exception  DemGa   May-16-08 05:36 PM   #48 
     - Yes, because Mad posts such inflammatory things.. like facts. Damn those pesky facts !  K Gardner   May-16-08 05:38 PM   # 
  - exactly.... Bill, Go.  habitual   May-16-08 05:36 PM   #45 
  - Cheering on the person destroying the political future of Clinton.. Good Going!  Zachstar   May-16-08 06:10 PM   #88 
  - Sounds like the Big Dog didn't get his shots  Ichingcarpenter   May-16-08 05:36 PM   #46 
  - Fire Bad!  NeedleCast   May-16-08 05:43 PM   #60 
  - Not photoshopped or changed  Ichingcarpenter   May-16-08 05:53 PM   #73 
     - Sad to believe it is not photoshopped.  madfloridian   May-16-08 06:22 PM   #91 
     - Look of pure terror. He knows he is facing indictment.  votesomemore   May-16-08 08:00 PM   #118 
  - holy damn!  frylock   May-16-08 06:47 PM   #100 
  - paging Dan Abrams, paging Dan Abrams  ErinBerin84   May-16-08 05:38 PM   #52 
  - Obama is fighting in the GE with McSame and Bush and  Life Long Dem   May-16-08 05:41 PM   #56 
  - Yes, it does make them look like little people.  madfloridian   May-16-08 05:49 PM   #71 
     - Do you know the Private Detective they used was sentenced today?  Ichingcarpenter   May-16-08 05:59 PM   #80 
  - Howard Dean is the new Antonin Scalia...  avenger64   May-16-08 05:43 PM   #61 
  - List growing...quickly.  madfloridian   May-16-08 05:48 PM   #69 
     - Oh, we don't get 'parallels', do we?  avenger64   May-16-08 05:54 PM   #76 
     - they make it so easy..  frylock   May-16-08 06:48 PM   #103 
  - Bill who?  GodlessBiker   May-16-08 05:45 PM   #64 
  - ***(((((Part 1)))))***  indimuse   May-16-08 05:52 PM   #72 
  - The Florida Democratic Party had a year after the  suzie   May-17-08 07:26 AM   #153 
  - Apparently he wants to flame out  livetohike   May-16-08 05:53 PM   #74 
  - He's getting desperate, and its not pretty.  undeterred   May-16-08 06:01 PM   #82 
  - Would Bill be making these attacks if his wife was not running?  RiverStone   May-16-08 06:05 PM   #85 
  - The Clintons (Carville et al) are really afraid of losing their perceived power in the Party  MaineDem   May-16-08 06:09 PM   #87 
  - You are right. Also FL Dem leaders have been vocal about not liking the 50 state plan  madfloridian   May-16-08 06:11 PM   #89 
  - Bitter Ole' neutered Dawg!  ShortnFiery   May-16-08 06:24 PM   #92 
  - bill who?  frylock   May-16-08 06:40 PM   #95 
  - More evidence that the old Clinton-led DLC is a party unto itself...  AntiFascist   May-16-08 06:45 PM   #98 
  - "Nobody quarrels with the right to discipline them"? Other than Hillary you mean?  sfam   May-16-08 06:46 PM   #99 
  - Goddang, that boy can spin! I can't wait until he's working to elect Obama.  Bucky   May-16-08 06:48 PM   #101 
  - gee bill, you didn't have any problem when terry told MI the same thing Dean did  still_one   May-16-08 06:48 PM   #102 
  - "...maybe she is not aware of what he is doing."  dchill   May-16-08 06:49 PM   #104 
  - Sounds like you actually believe your own spin. Pathetic!  Auntie Bush   May-16-08 06:53 PM   #106 
  - You are also accusing Dean of favoritism? Now that is just pathetic.  madfloridian   May-16-08 07:12 PM   #112 
  - The new Clinton spin: "Favoritism" = "Rules that don't work in our favor" n/t  CakeGrrl   May-17-08 07:35 AM   #154 
  - listen up  johnnydrama   May-16-08 08:05 PM   #119 
     - thank you! Amazing how people forget that.  President Kerry   May-17-08 11:25 AM   #171 
  - I'm sorry.  ErinBerin84   May-16-08 07:00 PM   #111 
  - Go Bill. Count the Florida and Michigan votes.  Freida5   May-16-08 07:49 PM   #116 
  - Not only will she not be Pres, she won't be VP either  Obama_for_our_future   May-16-08 07:54 PM   #117 
  - And Your Objection Is ... ?  Crisco   May-16-08 08:22 PM   #123 
  - That really doesn't deserve an answer, but I will try.  madfloridian   May-16-08 08:26 PM   #125 
  - i sure wish they would get him an "undisclosed location"  CreekDog   May-16-08 08:50 PM   #130 
  - I was wrong when I said she might not know what he is doing.  madfloridian   May-16-08 09:56 PM   #131 
  - Bill Clinton has gone from being the Big Dog to the Mad Dog  Samantha   May-16-08 11:04 PM   #134 
  - Yes, Obama got specific permission for that ad....  madfloridian   May-16-08 11:07 PM   #135 
     - Which means Clinton could have done the same.  frog92969   May-16-08 11:49 PM   #139 
        - No, but now that she is in Kentucky, the neighboring states are being...  rebel with a cause   May-17-08 12:43 AM   #144 
  - Those two love the word "obliterate", don't they?  charlie   May-17-08 12:10 AM   #142 
  - Clinton defintion of obliteration:  PaulaFarrell   May-17-08 05:24 AM   #148 
  - Much ado about nothing  JNelson6563   May-17-08 05:32 AM   #150 
  - But Jack Stevens said Hillary could be presidents after poppy's son had a go of it.  LiberalArkie   May-17-08 06:35 AM   #152 
  - Interesting. I just heard an MSNBC reporter this morning say something about the DLCers  Skidmore   May-17-08 08:05 AM   #156 
  - To use Bill's own words, he needs to chill! I guess with Hillary toning down her rhetoric,  TBF   May-17-08 08:37 AM   #158 
  - Bill knows and everybody knows that FL and MI will be seated but it won't make a bit of difference  book_worm   May-17-08 09:00 AM   #160 
  - They need their excuse for losing  catgirl   May-17-08 10:02 AM   #164 
  - madfloridian lets loose ANOTHER vicious attack on the Clintons today....  1monster   May-17-08 10:14 AM   #166 
  - Madfloridian tells the truth about what Bill Clinton said.  madfloridian   May-17-08 10:57 AM   #169 
  - Mad quotes another news article ! Bill should stop saying this crap if he doesn't want  K Gardner   May-17-08 02:14 PM   #177 
  - Nothing shows that they know they are going to lose with the DNC more than  grantcart   May-17-08 10:25 AM   #167 
  - WATCH OUT --- HERE COMES THE STAIN ON THE BLUE PANTSUIT  happygoluckytoyou   May-17-08 01:35 PM   #172 
  - aw, that poor widdle fragile kitten known as the DNC  Enrique   May-17-08 01:48 PM   #173 
  - We didn't hear this rhetoric when McAuliffe did the same thing. Why now? n/t  casus belli   May-17-08 01:50 PM   #174 
  - re: nat'l ad... Clinton also held fundraisers when they weren't allowed to campaign.  cui bono   May-17-08 02:43 PM   #178 
  - What a Maroon  Grinchie   May-17-08 04:28 PM   #181 
  - Bill Clinton doesn't have a corner market on following rules and being truthful  zulchzulu   May-17-08 04:32 PM   #182 
  - Tell it like it is Bill!!!!!!!!!!  Beacool   May-17-08 04:56 PM   #186 
  - well, you've got us all at each other's throats again  paulk   May-17-08 05:13 PM   #187 
  - LOL yes it is all my fault.  madfloridian   May-17-08 06:26 PM   #191 
     - well, that's your POV, I guess  paulk   May-17-08 07:17 PM   #193 
        - Hey look over here what Madfloridian is doing....ignore what the Clintons are doing.  madfloridian   May-17-08 07:27 PM   #194 
           - you mean, your spin on what the Clintons are doing  paulk   May-17-08 08:57 PM   #195 
  - Once again, Bill Clinton is absolutely right. pouncing obama bloggers jump on his case  Rene   May-17-08 07:03 PM   #192 
  - Bill Clinton is a founding member of the DLC --- and HRC is part of DLC leadership --- !!!  defendandprotect   May-18-08 02:05 AM   #196 
 

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