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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 10:03 PM
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I think Dan Abrams got it exactly right.
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On Dan's show tonight, Dan said that Obama would likely not pick Clinton to be the VP. But not because it would be bad for the ticket, or it would ruin the brand, or any other reason relating to electability. It would be because many of his supporters just have so much personal hatred towards HRC. In fact, he suggested that even if it was shown that Clinton would dramatically help this ticket, they still would not have her on the ticket because of hatred of her by many Obama supporters (not Obama himself).

I couldn't have put the words better myself. I certainly am not saying this about all Obama supporters (or even all Obama supporters here); there are many here who like Obama without hating Clinton. And I really don't know whether she would help or hurt the ticket. But what disturbs me is that EVEN IF she was certain to help the ticket and bring in more states in the general, there would still be people here that hate her so much that they wouldn't care. They would rather lose with Obama and someone else than win with Obama and Clinton (again, assuming hypothetically that Clinton would be certain to help).

Hopefully, cooler heads will prevail, and Obama can make a VP decision that will be best for him winning in November. And if that choice isn't Clinton (for the reason that she would not help in November), then that's fine. Hopefully it won't be about emotional hatred.
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  -I think Dan Abrams got it exactly right. zlt234  May-14-08 10:03 PM   #0 
  - The thing is, for me it isn't about liking or not liking her  truedelphi   May-14-08 10:09 PM   #1 
  - I despise her, and I felt that way long before I became an Obama supporter.  Lisa0825   May-14-08 10:12 PM   #2 
  - Obama's supporters are not unique in despising Hillary.  TexasObserver   May-14-08 10:14 PM   #3 
  - I see it differently.  zlt234   May-14-08 10:23 PM   #7 
  - I think Obama will choose the best candidate that he can work with that will also help...  sfam   May-14-08 10:19 PM   #4 
  - It goes beyond November  Obama_for_our_future   May-14-08 10:20 PM   #5 
  - Bill Clinton would consider Obama a mere puppet president  Samantha   May-14-08 10:25 PM   #10 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-14-08 10:20 PM   #6 
  - Without a doubt.  pirhana   May-14-08 10:39 PM   #14 
  - "emotional hatred?" - that completely ignores rational contempt for horrible behavior  crankychatter   May-14-08 10:23 PM   #8 
  - Obama has a wide bench of Dems to choose from to augment his ticket.  AtomicKitten   May-14-08 10:25 PM   #9 
  - This is exactly what I'm talking about.  zlt234   May-14-08 10:29 PM   #11 
     - she ran against him like a Republican in a old school nasty campaign  AtomicKitten   May-14-08 10:36 PM   #13 
        - Whether that bothers anyone or not is irrelevant.  zlt234   May-14-08 11:02 PM   #16 
           - Your concern about his VP choice is duly noted, but I'm not concerned.  AtomicKitten   May-14-08 11:13 PM   #19 
  - I don't agree with him  eleny   May-14-08 10:29 PM   #12 
  - Two main drawbacks of Hillary as VP, neither of which is what she did in this campaign:  JBoy   May-14-08 10:45 PM   #15 
  - hilary threw herself under the bus and she will not get  zidzi   May-14-08 11:04 PM   #17 
  - Hatred you can believe in!  Harvey Korman   May-14-08 11:05 PM   #18 

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