| 7. THANK YOU !!! - K & R !!! |
| -Why Obama Is The Stronger Candidate (A Picture Really Is Worth A Thousand Words) |
berni_mccoy |
May-14-08 07:45 AM |
#0 |
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K and R |
ClayZ |
May-14-08 07:50 AM |
#1 |
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but Clinton is running in a different Primary to this one |
bambino |
May-14-08 07:50 AM |
#2 |
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And here I thought they were just moving the goal posts... |
Dr_eldritch |
May-14-08 08:15 AM |
#31 |
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Yes - the Carlos Castaneda Primary... |
dchill |
May-14-08 09:59 AM |
#46 |
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Has Don Juan endorsed her yet? |
Ken Burch |
May-14-08 11:52 AM |
#70 |
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No, but I think Don Quixote believes in her. He sees a kindred spirit. ;-) eom |
BlueCaliDem04 |
May-14-08 01:26 PM |
#89 |
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Of course, isn't her husband "Don Juan"? |
George II |
May-14-08 03:30 PM |
#121 |
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Not in the Casteneda sense, especially since Bill "didn't inhale". |
Ken Burch |
May-14-08 05:57 PM |
#130 |
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I was just kidding...I'm 60, and despite all, Bill is STILL the best president during my lifetime... |
George II |
May-14-08 06:38 PM |
#131 |
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We thought Bill was the best,.... |
Just-plain-Kathy |
May-14-08 09:51 PM |
#154 |
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IMO, he didn't, he just was portrayed as going to the dark side... |
George II |
May-15-08 01:45 PM |
#169 |
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Twilight Zone? |
bambino |
May-14-08 10:28 PM |
#157 |
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Wouldn't that be called a "Secondary" then??? |
George II |
May-14-08 03:30 PM |
#120 |
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Oh yes! |
bambino |
May-14-08 10:28 PM |
#158 |
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Kicked.... |
AllexxisF1 |
May-14-08 07:52 AM |
#3 |
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kicked because some confused people were bringing up the electability argument again |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
May-17-08 12:57 AM |
#175 |
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Purple states don't count to the Clintoons. n/t |
greguganus |
May-14-08 07:53 AM |
#4 |
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Especially the caucus states, like Minnesota |
MNBrewer |
May-14-08 08:44 PM |
#150 |
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Wow! |
BattyDem |
May-14-08 07:53 AM |
#5 |
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Impressive MAP, Did you create it, if not where did you get it?.?.? |
MagickMuffin |
May-14-08 07:54 AM |
#6 |
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Link |
berni_mccoy |
May-14-08 07:59 AM |
#10 |
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Right click - show image |
dbmk |
May-14-08 08:01 AM |
#13 |
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Thx, dbmk |
MagickMuffin |
May-14-08 08:12 AM |
#27 |
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THANK YOU !!! - K & R !!! |
WillyT |
May-14-08 07:54 AM |
#7 |
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kicking for those who can't add n/t |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
May-17-08 11:41 AM |
#179 |
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But, but Obama can't win without West Virginia! |
ekwhite |
May-14-08 07:57 AM |
#8 |
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Do you buy the argument that he expands the map? |
genna |
May-14-08 12:13 PM |
#76 |
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"81%", huh? Is that a fact? Link, please. Thank you! (eom) |
Petrushka |
May-14-08 07:00 PM |
#134 |
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Talking heads said 21% last night, iirc (nt) |
BleedinHeart |
May-14-08 08:34 PM |
#147 |
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21% or 81% --- Hm-m? I guess that's not really TOO much of a difference. LOL (eom) |
Petrushka |
May-15-08 06:23 PM |
#171 |
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Geez, and I wasted all that good snark for nothing |
ekwhite |
May-14-08 10:44 PM |
#159 |
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Scary thing is, this is kind of true |
T4RSR5 |
May-15-08 01:32 AM |
#164 |
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Thanks Bernie! |
mod mom |
May-14-08 07:59 AM |
#9 |
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Obama won't have a prayer in hell of... |
DemVet |
May-14-08 08:00 AM |
#11 |
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fail |
berni_mccoy |
May-14-08 08:02 AM |
#15 |
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He may not win TX & FL in the general, but sure as shit he'll get NY, CA, MI, MA, CT & NJ. |
baldguy |
May-14-08 08:04 AM |
#18 |
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dont bet on CT |
bigscott |
May-14-08 12:45 PM |
#83 |
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Yet somehow I feel, after buyer's remorse with LIEberman, CT will go Obama in the GE. eom |
BlueCaliDem04 |
May-14-08 01:28 PM |
#90 |
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He won't get TX, but neither would Hill - TX is too conservative - will go to McCain |
TBF |
May-14-08 01:06 PM |
#86 |
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You mean too rabid... |
Baby Snooks |
May-14-08 01:45 PM |
#95 |
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And that's just the republicans... on the other side of the aisle are the libertarians. |
TBF |
May-14-08 02:52 PM |
#113 |
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Add Oregon to that list that he will win! |
eagertolearn |
May-14-08 01:47 PM |
#96 |
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Fail |
CaptJasHook |
May-14-08 08:08 AM |
#23 |
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actually he needs a good win to combat the evote fraud |
natrat |
May-14-08 11:45 AM |
#68 |
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Too true, too damn true, nt |
CaptJasHook |
May-14-08 12:18 PM |
#77 |
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I Agree! n/t |
eagertolearn |
May-14-08 01:49 PM |
#98 |
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Bzzzzt! Wrong. |
bowens43 |
May-14-08 08:22 AM |
#34 |
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Neither would Hillary... i bet she'd have LESS considering |
DWilliamsamh |
May-14-08 11:12 AM |
#61 |
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What? You really think anyone will support a Republican |
The Wielding Truth |
May-14-08 01:36 PM |
#91 |
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Absolutely |
Chulanowa |
May-14-08 02:19 PM |
#104 |
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yep; this must be a lot of O-ists first elections. |
VotesForWomen |
May-14-08 04:04 PM |
#123 |
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But all those small states don't count |
baldguy |
May-14-08 08:00 AM |
#12 |
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I'm going to work as hard as hell here in Texas to GOTV |
MagickMuffin |
May-14-08 08:17 AM |
#33 |
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I'll look forward to seeing Texas colored a beautiful azure on Nov 4. |
baldguy |
May-14-08 08:23 AM |
#35 |
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Team Obama will try to make that HAPPEN |
MagickMuffin |
May-14-08 08:30 AM |
#37 |
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As much as that sounds good |
shagsak |
May-14-08 01:14 PM |
#88 |
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ATTENTION TEXANS! THOSE WHO LOVE THE MAVERCIKS (NBA) |
How to be positive |
May-15-08 01:34 AM |
#165 |
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Purple Power ! |
C_U_L8R |
May-14-08 08:02 AM |
#14 |
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.. |
quantass |
May-14-08 08:07 AM |
#22 |
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Ah, something even the math impaired can understand! |
No Surrender |
May-14-08 08:02 AM |
#16 |
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Now they will claim they're colorblind too. n/t |
greguganus |
May-14-08 08:07 AM |
#21 |
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LOL! |
No Surrender |
May-14-08 09:35 AM |
#41 |
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Another kick & rec for truth |
liberaldem4ever |
May-14-08 08:04 AM |
#17 |
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K & R |
Scurrilous |
May-14-08 08:05 AM |
#19 |
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Caucuses are not a good measure of victory |
Onlooker |
May-14-08 08:06 AM |
#20 |
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It tells us how desperate Clinton's chances are for getting the nomination |
berni_mccoy |
May-14-08 08:09 AM |
#24 |
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I agree |
Onlooker |
May-14-08 08:13 AM |
#30 |
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Obama won 16 primaries, Hillary won 16 states. n/t |
ProSense |
May-14-08 08:10 AM |
#25 |
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two words for you: "North Carolina". 2,118,264 ballots cast in primary |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
May-14-08 11:59 AM |
#74 |
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WV, IN, OK, Tenn. ARK are OUT in the GE no chance of any Dem winning them |
underpants |
May-14-08 08:10 AM |
#26 |
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Strong red states won by Clinton in the primary. She said it herself: If she was running as a Repub |
berni_mccoy |
May-14-08 08:13 AM |
#29 |
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Whoah... do you have a citation for that quote? |
MessiahRp |
May-14-08 10:35 AM |
#52 |
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They were paraphrasing, but here's a link... |
casus belli |
May-14-08 12:22 PM |
#78 |
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Senator Obama will |
H2O Man |
May-14-08 08:12 AM |
#28 |
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And remember: |
dbmk |
May-14-08 08:15 AM |
#32 |
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Good point. There are many undiscussed trends in Obama's favor |
berni_mccoy |
May-14-08 09:08 AM |
#38 |
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So did NJ. Obama is very strong in NJ now. |
futureliveshere |
May-14-08 12:30 PM |
# |
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Nice analysis. Too bad the MSM doesn't want to talk about this. |
Clear Blue Sky |
May-14-08 08:28 AM |
#36 |
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K/R. |
Window |
May-14-08 09:18 AM |
#39 |
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There are no caucuses in the general election. n/t |
NJSecularist |
May-14-08 09:30 AM |
#40 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-14-08 01:52 PM |
#100 |
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So? Neither is there a popular vote. |
dchill |
May-14-08 07:42 PM |
#138 |
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There is no popular vote in the GE? |
NJSecularist |
May-14-08 11:04 PM |
#161 |
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Get someone to fill you in... |
dchill |
May-15-08 10:51 AM |
#168 |
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Fortunately, this is not how we choose our democratic candidate |
gristy |
May-14-08 09:37 AM |
#42 |
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Actually, it's PRECISELY how Democratic Candidates are chosen: BY DELEGATES. |
berni_mccoy |
May-14-08 09:42 AM |
#44 |
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But neither your map nor your numbers give any information about delegates. |
gristy |
May-14-08 09:57 AM |
#45 |
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You're math is funny. |
bhal123 |
May-14-08 10:07 AM |
#48 |
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Nope |
gristy |
May-14-08 10:19 AM |
#51 |
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Actually it is the case. You should read the rules. |
Usrename |
May-14-08 10:57 AM |
#60 |
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Actually, it does exactly that. The Wins are by Delegate margins, not popular vote. |
berni_mccoy |
May-14-08 10:07 AM |
#49 |
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You map and numbers convey delegate margins, but only as % of state delegates |
gristy |
May-14-08 10:43 AM |
#55 |
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Please... your desperation is showing. The map is not mine. It comes from wiki. |
berni_mccoy |
May-14-08 10:44 AM |
#57 |
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The misleading nature of the map when used to show the strength of Obama is now the responsiblity |
gristy |
May-14-08 10:51 AM |
#58 |
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Grasping at straws |
casus belli |
May-14-08 12:27 PM |
#79 |
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Kentucky, Make Us Proud! |
prodn2000 |
May-14-08 09:39 AM |
#43 |
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Utah looks goooood! |
helderheid |
May-14-08 10:00 AM |
#47 |
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You forgot that none of those purple states actually matter |
Pawel K |
May-14-08 10:16 AM |
#50 |
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Brillance! |
butterfly77 |
May-14-08 10:38 AM |
#53 |
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But wait |
BecauseBushSaysSo |
May-14-08 10:42 AM |
#54 |
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notice that whoever wins KY gets bragging rights for a cost to cost win |
jsamuel |
May-14-08 10:44 AM |
#56 |
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HA! Great spot jsamuel. Sadly, I don't think it will be Obama that get's that brag. |
berni_mccoy |
May-14-08 10:56 AM |
#59 |
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I noticed that too |
nxylas |
May-14-08 01:47 PM |
#97 |
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thanks for the texas truth! |
asSEENonTV |
May-14-08 11:14 AM |
#62 |
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THE TRUTH LOOKS SO GOOD!!!!!!! |
Lady-Damai |
May-14-08 11:16 AM |
#63 |
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Purple for the black man, I see. |
rch35 |
May-14-08 11:27 AM |
#64 |
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lol |
NatBurner |
May-14-08 12:50 PM |
#85 |
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lol, im glad one person got it, nt |
rch35 |
May-15-08 10:48 AM |
#167 |
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Of course Obama is the strongest |
zidzi |
May-14-08 11:40 AM |
#65 |
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K & R |
democracy1st |
May-14-08 11:42 AM |
#66 |
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and in california you can reverse that clinton win |
natrat |
May-14-08 11:42 AM |
#67 |
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nice map, thanks and recommended. n/t |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
May-14-08 11:48 AM |
#69 |
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Bingo! |
Zachstar |
May-14-08 11:55 AM |
#71 |
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well...that map is divorced from reality. |
stillcool47 |
May-14-08 11:56 AM |
#72 |
| -
K & R... |
AzDar |
May-14-08 11:58 AM |
#73 |
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K&R |
OneSelf |
May-14-08 12:00 PM |
#75 |
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great map - thanks for putting it together! |
RiverStone |
May-14-08 12:27 PM |
#80 |
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Those purple states don't count |
Bright Eyes |
May-14-08 12:30 PM |
#81 |
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Thanks, berni_mccoy for the terrific map and stats. K&R. |
David Zephyr |
May-14-08 12:38 PM |
#82 |
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Absolutely breathtaking! Go get 'em, Barack. |
AtomicKitten |
May-14-08 12:48 PM |
#84 |
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This awesome map should be emailed to all SD's - I like it much better than Hillary's whiny emails |
TBF |
May-14-08 01:09 PM |
#87 |
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Pretty cartoon map. But Clinton still leads in votes cast. |
MethuenProgressive |
May-14-08 01:38 PM |
#92 |
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Not counting legally valid and binding caucuses I see... desperate. |
berni_mccoy |
May-14-08 01:43 PM |
#94 |
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You're using the same funny math that Bush uses from time to time |
wowimthere |
May-14-08 02:39 PM |
#107 |
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Why would you still be trying to sell that crap here? |
dchill |
May-14-08 07:46 PM |
#139 |
| -
So are all those states filed with African Americans or shiftless people because hard working whites |
Stop Cornyn |
May-14-08 01:43 PM |
#93 |
| -
...and the song will remain the same... |
Perry Mason |
May-14-08 01:51 PM |
#99 |
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My God. This is the most intelligent argument I've read on this site in months |
twominuteshate |
May-14-08 08:42 PM |
#148 |
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If only we could snap our fingers to solve these issues. |
OMomma |
May-15-08 12:42 AM |
#163 |
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Rather illustrates my point |
Perry Mason |
May-15-08 04:55 PM |
#170 |
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You can't talk about these things in sound bites. |
OMomma |
May-16-08 12:46 PM |
#172 |
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Add to above: FUNDING Real Education Initiatives and Reform |
OMomma |
May-16-08 03:05 PM |
#173 |
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this is a great job but |
kentj44 |
May-14-08 01:54 PM |
#101 |
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You know why she shouldn't be on the ticket? McSame. Her war vote. Philosophically they are |
wowimthere |
May-14-08 02:37 PM |
#106 |
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HILLARY STILL AHEAD IN THE SOUTHERN JEWISH DWARF WITH A LISP DEMOGRAPHICS |
happygoluckytoyou |
May-14-08 02:10 PM |
#102 |
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The Elected Obama is the most Electable. n/t |
Cieran |
May-14-08 02:14 PM |
#103 |
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Oh, sure, I've been posting this picture for two weeks now.. |
krispos42 |
May-14-08 02:27 PM |
#105 |
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LOL! It's all in the timing my friend. |
berni_mccoy |
May-14-08 02:43 PM |
#110 |
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I have a map for you. |
jcg996 |
May-14-08 02:41 PM |
#108 |
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It's meaningless until Hillary drops out and stops dividing the party. |
berni_mccoy |
May-14-08 02:45 PM |
#111 |
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I hope you're right. n/t |
jcg996 |
May-14-08 02:45 PM |
#112 |
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Sorry I sort of duped you. :( |
satireV |
May-14-08 04:18 PM |
#125 |
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Actually, that map looks really good |
progressive_realist |
May-14-08 09:39 PM |
#153 |
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Hillary has West Virginia and Arkansas in her pocket. lol Just what she needs. |
votesomemore |
May-14-08 02:43 PM |
#109 |
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How many caucuses are in the GE? |
2rth2pwr |
May-14-08 02:53 PM |
#114 |
| -
Why didn't Clinton plan accordingly for Caucuses. That's why she lost. |
berni_mccoy |
May-14-08 03:00 PM |
#116 |
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Oh look, Obama will win landslide victories throughout the South. That's just fucking... audacious. |
aquarius dawning |
May-14-08 02:54 PM |
#115 |
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But, but, but . . . . our MSM is asking us "Can HRC do it? Can she take it away from Obama?" |
CLW |
May-14-08 03:02 PM |
#117 |
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K&R nt |
gulfcoastliberal |
May-14-08 03:20 PM |
#118 |
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That picture is worth a lot more than 1000 |
Cant trust em |
May-14-08 03:25 PM |
#119 |
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another clueless naive Obamite who thinks the GE is the same as a dem primary. america is really fuc |
VotesForWomen |
May-14-08 04:03 PM |
#122 |
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Project primary results into the general election is Hillary's tactic, not mine. I'm sorry you're |
berni_mccoy |
May-14-08 04:35 PM |
#127 |
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yes, but she winning the states that actually have a chance in heck of going blue in nov. DUH! |
VotesForWomen |
May-14-08 09:56 PM |
#156 |
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It's a marriage not a wedding |
satireV |
May-14-08 04:07 PM |
#124 |
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Instead of that question, which we can't answer without a nominee |
twominuteshate |
May-14-08 08:56 PM |
#152 |
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Thank you, berni |
Number23 |
May-14-08 04:24 PM |
#126 |
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Maybe you should look at a picture of the high electoral vote states |
pnwmom |
May-14-08 04:51 PM |
#128 |
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You don't even know what you are saying do you? You didn't even look at the map |
berni_mccoy |
May-14-08 05:29 PM |
#129 |
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No insults, please. Just explain to me how I'm wrong about Texas. |
pnwmom |
May-14-08 07:17 PM |
#136 |
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I hate to seem stupid, but I'll type this anyway... |
FatDave |
May-14-08 06:46 PM |
#132 |
| -
American Samoa |
KnaveRupe |
May-14-08 07:26 PM |
#137 |
| -
Oh, of course. |
FatDave |
May-14-08 08:43 PM |
#149 |
| -
American Samoa :) n/t |
ExPatLeftist |
May-14-08 07:49 PM |
#140 |
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~~K~~ and ~~R~~ |
TheDonkey |
May-14-08 06:50 PM |
#133 |
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k to teh r n/t |
LaStrega |
May-14-08 07:09 PM |
#135 |
| -
Don't Forget Bob Barr |
demwing |
May-14-08 07:49 PM |
#141 |
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Thanks for the great informative post! |
TragedyandHope |
May-14-08 08:12 PM |
#142 |
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AWESOME Emoticons! I'm STEALING them! |
berni_mccoy |
May-14-08 08:14 PM |
#144 |
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I'm glad you like them! Please STEAL and SHARE and ENJOY! |
TragedyandHope |
May-14-08 08:20 PM |
#145 |
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Purple is my favorite color. :-) n/t |
Blondiegrrl |
May-14-08 08:13 PM |
#143 |
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But you haven't taken into account that |
shellgame26 |
May-14-08 08:23 PM |
#146 |
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Perfect! I have saved this image so I can share with other people |
panAmerican |
May-14-08 08:54 PM |
#151 |
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Anyone else notice that Clinton's states form a green crescent? |
progressive_realist |
May-14-08 09:55 PM |
#155 |
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A Song Comes to Mind When I Look at the OP's Graphic ... |
Khaotic |
May-14-08 10:46 PM |
#160 |
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I thought maybe you were going to say "stone cold crazy" by Queen. |
aquarius dawning |
May-14-08 11:29 PM |
#162 |
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I think what is not mentioned, but is important |
nvme |
May-15-08 01:41 AM |
#166 |
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This needs to be spread far and wide - help kick it up |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
May-16-08 05:24 PM |
#174 |
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Hillary won the vote in the Nevada caucus and Texas primary. |
Carrieyazel |
May-17-08 01:04 AM |
#176 |
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looking at the purple in the south I think that Florida may have |
ruby slippers |
May-17-08 01:22 AM |
#177 |
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Florida is a longshot. He's well behind in the polls. |
Carrieyazel |
May-17-08 09:59 AM |
#178 |
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