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15. RFK Jr's The True Cost of Coal (No such thing as "clean coal"!)
Coal's True Cost
Posted November 29, 2007 | 09:31 PM (EST)

Last evening's GOP CNN/YouTube debate and the Democratic presidential debate on November 15 were jointly sponsored by a coal industry coalition comprised of mining, railroad and utility interests.

Their high profile civic involvement is designed to further confuse American voters about coal's true cost to our society. Many of the Republican candidates have endorsed massive new subsidies for King Coal and dutifully parrot industry talking points including earnest promises of cheap "clean coal." Given that climate change is the most urgent threat to our collective survival, it is shocking that no debate moderator has pressed the candidates to clearly state their positions on "clean coal."

In fact, there is no such thing as "clean coal." And coal is only "cheap" if one ignores its calamitous externalized costs. In addition to global warming, these include dead forests and sterilized lakes from acid rain, poisoned fisheries in 49 states and children with damaged brains and crippled health from mercury emissions, millions of asthma attacks and lost work days and thousands dead annually from ozone and particulates. Coal's most catastrophic and permanent impacts are from mountaintop removal mining. If the American people could see what I have seen from the air and ground during my many trips to the coalfields of Kentucky and West Virginia: leveled mountains, devastated communities, wrecked economies and ruined lives, there would be a revolution in this country.

Well now you can visit coal country without ever having to leave your home. Every presidential candidate and every American ought to take a few seconds to visit an ingenious new website created by Appalachian Voices, that allows one to tour the obliterated landscapes of Appalachia. And it's not just Arch Coal, Massey Coal and their corporate toadies in electoral politics who are culpable for the disaster. The amazing new website allows you to enter your zip code to learn how you're personally connected to the great crime of mountaintop removal. Using this website Americans from Maine to California can see these mountains and the communities that were sacrificed to power their home. The tool uses Google Maps and Google Earth as interfaces to a large database of power plants and mountaintop removal coal mines. A November 15, 2007 article in the Wall Street Journalhighlighted the site as one of the most innovative, cutting-edge uses of these powerful tools. The site puts a human face on the issue by highlighting the stories of families living in the shadows of these mines.

Each day the coal barons from companies like Massey and Arch detonate 2500 tons of explosives-the power of a Hiroshima bomb every week-to blow away Appalachian mountain tops to reach the coal seams beneath. Colossal machines then plow the rock and debris into the adjacent river valleys and hollows, destroying forests and burying free-flowing mountain streams, flattening North America's most ancient mountain range. According to EPA 1,200 miles of American rivers and streams have already been permanently interred and 470 of Appalachia's largest mountains have simply disappeared, leaving behind giant pits and barren moonscapes, some as large as Manhattan Island. I recently flew over one 18 square-mile pit - Hobet 21 - which you can now tour on Google Earth!

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/coals...
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  -Coal H2O Man  May-14-08 06:44 AM   #0 
  - K&R.n/t  myrna minx   May-14-08 07:08 AM   #1 
  - Right.  rosesaylavee   May-14-08 07:09 AM   #2 
  - K&R (nt)  frickaline   May-14-08 07:13 AM   #3 
  - I have a few things for you to read...  theHandpuppet   May-14-08 07:14 AM   #4 
  - Thank you for the  H2O Man   May-14-08 07:26 AM   #5 
  - You're very welcome  theHandpuppet   May-14-08 07:29 AM   #6 
     - Wyoming and coal  RichardRay   May-14-08 08:27 AM   #17 
  - Thank you for this post.  rosesaylavee   May-14-08 07:38 AM   #9 
  - One of the reason's I support Sen Obama is his open mind. It will be up to us  mod mom   May-14-08 07:58 AM   #16 
  - Funny how Hillary in her speech last night quoted the bible "Faith can move a Mountain"  MagickMuffin   May-14-08 07:31 AM   #7 
  - Thank you for this thread H2O.  Marrah_G   May-14-08 07:32 AM   #8 
  - Both Clinton and Obama  H2O Man   May-14-08 07:46 AM   #12 
  - More reasons to fight coal-powered power plalnts.  patrice   May-14-08 07:41 AM   #10 
  - there is no way we will get around using more coal in the near future. It's an absolute certainty  cryingshame   May-14-08 07:54 AM   #14 
  - Link To The Film's Site:  WillyT   May-14-08 07:41 AM   #11 
  - Thanks!  H2O Man   May-14-08 08:50 AM   #22 
     - Anytime O, Anytime...  WillyT   May-14-08 08:44 PM   #42 
  - Apparently Obama has been listening to people in the Environmental Movement  MagickMuffin   May-14-08 07:50 AM   #13 
  - One of the main reasons  H2O Man   May-14-08 12:53 PM   #38 
  - RFK Jr's The True Cost of Coal (No such thing as "clean coal"!)  mod mom   May-14-08 07:56 AM   #15 
  - So what are you saying exactly?  mmonk   May-14-08 08:32 AM   #18 
  - I found some of  H2O Man   May-14-08 08:45 AM   #20 
     - Thanks. Got it.  mmonk   May-14-08 08:50 AM   #21 
     - I'd like to see  H2O Man   May-14-08 09:09 AM   #25 
        - That would be most excellent.  mmonk   May-14-08 09:25 AM   #27 
     - Respectfully...  theHandpuppet   May-14-08 11:12 AM   #30 
        - I can't speak to your feelings about Senator Obama and WV  RichardRay   May-14-08 12:33 PM   #34 
        - In his book  H2O Man   May-14-08 12:51 PM   #36 
           - Thank you for offering to pass this along  theHandpuppet   May-14-08 01:54 PM   #39 
              - Thank you  H2O Man   May-14-08 02:07 PM   #40 
                 - Paradise  Usrename   May-14-08 11:08 PM   #43 
  - I Am Curious As To Why He Didn't Spend More Time In W Va.  Me.   May-14-08 08:39 AM   #19 
  - It's a good question.  H2O Man   May-14-08 09:17 AM   #26 
  - Not enough time to make up serious ground  SoonerPride   May-14-08 09:29 AM   #28 
  - It wasn't meaningless to US  theHandpuppet   May-14-08 12:03 PM   #32 
  - I Think The Week Of Time Limitation  Me.   May-14-08 12:22 PM   #33 
  - What was he going to do? Cut it to 35 percent?  theboss   May-14-08 09:32 AM   #29 
  - I have been reading up on mountain-top removal and it's horrible  Blue_Roses   May-14-08 08:50 AM   #23 
  - Thank you for that link.  H2O Man   May-14-08 08:58 AM   #24 
  - A friendly kick for a worthy thread.  theHandpuppet   May-14-08 11:51 AM   #31 
  - k & r  spanone   May-14-08 12:44 PM   #35 
  - K&R  anonymous171   May-14-08 12:52 PM   #37 
  - K & R  Scurrilous   May-14-08 02:55 PM   #41 
  - Great post H2O Man. K&R  Tom Rinaldo   May-14-08 11:44 PM   #44 
  - Sir...please! I am fully aware, of your position with respect to Barack Obama...  bridgit   May-15-08 01:23 AM   #45 
  - K and R  McCamy Taylor   May-15-08 02:12 AM   #46 
 

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